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  • I'm hopeful, but obviously nothing can be guaranteed and it all depends on the way we continue to be prudent and continue to follow the guidance in each in each stage.

  • And that's why it's so important to proceed in the cautious way that that we are, but genuinely because of the immense possibilities now of the vaccination roll out.

  • Because science has given us this way of creating ah whole shield around our population.

  • We can really look at that dune 21st date with some optimism.

  • We haven't had stuff like this before.

  • We've never thought in terms of having something that you have to show to go to a pub or theater, that on DSO there are deep and complex issues that we need to explore ethical issues about what the role is for government in mandating or people toe toe have such thing, or indeed banning people from doing such a thing.

  • We can't be discriminatory against people who for whatever reason, you can't have the vaccine.

  • There might be reasons, medical reasons why people can't have, ah vaccine difficulties, that they you know, the people.

  • Some people may genuinely refused to have one.

  • Now I think that's a mistake.

I'm hopeful, but obviously nothing can be guaranteed and it all depends on the way we continue to be prudent and continue to follow the guidance in each in each stage.

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