AND ACTRESS.

SHE'S HERE TONIGHT TO DEBUT HER LATEST SINGLE.

WE LOVE IT WHEN SHE STOPS BY.

THE ONE, THE ONLY, SABRINA CARPENTER!

SABRINA, IT'S SO NICE TO SEE YOU!

HOW ARE YOU?

>> I'M DOING GOOD.

HOW ARE YOU DOING?

>> James: VERY VERY WELL.

MUCH TO TALK ABOUT.

YOU'VE HAD THE LOCKDOWN THAT MAKES MY HEART HURT A BIT

BECAUSE YOU MADE YOUR BROADWAY DEBUT IN THE HIT SHOW "MEAN

GIRLS."

HOW MANY PERFORMANCE ALSO HAD YOU DONE BEFORE EVERYTHING SHUT

DOWN?

>> TWO.

>> James: OH, MY GOD.

YEAH, IT'S A BUMMER.

I REHEARSED FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS AND IT WAS OBVIOUSLY MY

DEBUT AND SOMETHING I WAS SO SO SO EXCITED ABOUT, BUT I WOULD

HAVE BEEN SO BUMMED IF I DIDN'T GET TO DO ANY.

SO I REALLY GAVE MY HEART INTO THOSE TWO SHOWS.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

>> James: WELL, I HOPE SO MUCH YOU GET TO GO BACK AND DO MORE

THAN TWO PERFORMANCES, BECAUSE I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE ANYONE BETTER

IN THAT SHOW.

YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN SO BRILLIANT.

NOW, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO PERFORM

YOUR SINGLE "SKIN" IN A MOMENT.

NOW, THE SONG IS MASSIVE, BUT TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS -- I'VE

HEARD THERE'S SOME CONTROVERSY AROUND THIS SONG.

WHAT IS THE CONTROVERSY?

>> I LOVE HOW YOU SAY CONTROVERSY.

I'M SORRY.

I NEVER HEARD ANYONE SAY IT LIKE THAT.

>> James: CONTROVERSY.

CONTROVERSY IS BETTER.

>> James: IT'S CONTROVERSIAL.

PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET ARE SAYING IT'S CONTROVERSIAL.

I DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS SONG SO MUCH.

>> YEAH, IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, YOU GO WITH WHATEVER YOU GUT

TELLS YOU.

>> James: I'M ASKING YOU TO TELL MY GUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.

( LAUGHTER ) >> YOU KNOW, I GENUINELY WAS

COMING FROM A PLACE AS A 21-YEAR-OLD THAT IS NAVIGATING

HER FEELINGS AND WAS GOING THROUGH A LOT IN MY PERSONAL

LIFE, AND THE REOCCURRING THEME WAS THAT I WAS ALLOWING PEOPLE

TO GET UNDER MY SKIN, AND, SO, I WHERE FROM THAT PLACE OF KNOWING

THAT THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES THAT WILL CONTINUE

TO HAPPEN TO ME IN MY LIFE WHERE I KIND OF HAVE TO REMIND MYSELF

THAT PEOPLE CAN ONLY GET TO YOU IF YOU ALLOW THEM TO AND YOU

GIVE THEM THAT ACCESS TO.

SO, YEAH.

>> James: I LIKE THAT, BUT I FEEL LIKE YOU'VE SKIRTED AROUND

THE CONTROVERSY (PRONOUNCING ).

>> NO, I HAVEN'T SKIRTED AROUND IT.

( LAUGHTER ) I THINK IT'S MORE THE FACT

PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL MAKE A NARRATIVE OUT OF

SOMETHING ALWAYS, AND I THINK THIS WAS, LIKE, A REALLY

INTERESTING SONG FOR PEOPLE TO KIND OF MISINTERPRET AND MAKE IT

INTO SOMETHING THAT IT WASN'T REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE

FIRST PLACE.

BUT I'VE JUST BEEN ENJOYING MAKING MUSIC.

>> James: WELL, WE LOVE IT WHEN YOU MAKE MUSIC, AND WE WISH

SO MUCH THAT YOU WERE HERE IN THE STUDIO, BECAUSE YOU ARE THE

MOST FUN WHEN YOU ARE HERE