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  • >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY.

  • WE'RE BACK WITH OUR OLD FRIEND, THE AUTHOR OF "LEARNING TO

  • PRAY," FATHER JAMES MARTIN.

  • LENT IS APPROACHING.

  • THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH LOSS, SO MUCH NECESSARY DENIAL OF THINGS

  • WE WANT TO DO.

  • DO YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP SOMETHING THIS YEAR?

  • YOU AND I HAVE TALKED.

  • YOU ALWAYS GIVE UP-- YOU GIVE UP THREE THINGS, RIGHT?

  • WHAT ARE THEY?

  • >> A JEWISH FRIEND OF MINE CALLS ME, MY FRIEND ROB AND HE ASKS ME

  • TO GIVE UP A FOOD, A SPICE, AND A CANDY EVERY YEAR.

  • >> Stephen: AND WHY DID HE WANT YOU TO GIVE THOSE UP?

  • >> BECAUSE WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE, MY JEWISH FRIENDS SAID

  • WHO DECIDES WHAT YOU GIVE UP FOR LENT?

  • I I SAID I DO.

  • THEY SAID WHERE IS THE SACRIFICE IN THAT?

  • WE SHOULD TELL YOU WHAT TO GIVE UP.

  • NOW THEY DID IT, AND NOW MY FRIEND ROB AND HIS WIFE ANDREA

  • AND SON DANIEL, THEY CALL ME EVERY ASH WEDNESDAY IN THE

  • MORNING AND SAY THESE ARE THE THING YOU SHOULD GIVE UP.

  • THEY TELL ME.

  • >> Stephen: DO YOU KNOW YET WHAT YOU'RE GIVING UP?

  • >> NO, NO, ASH WEDNESDAY THEY TELL ME.

  • AND I DO OTHER THINGS OBVIOUSLY, OTHER THAN GIVING UP CILANTRO.

  • >> Stephen: THAT WOULDN'T BE TOO HARD FOR ME BECAUSE IT

  • TASTES LIKE SOAP TO ME SO THAT WOULD BE OKAY.

  • JIM, IT'S SO GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

  • >> MY PLEASURE.

  • >> Stephen: AND I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE ALMOST DONE BUILDING THAT

  • HUT BEHIND YOU OUT OF BOOK.

  • ( LAUGHTER ).

  • >> I'M STRUGGLING.

  • >> Stephen: "LEARNING TO PRAY" IS AVAILABLE NOW.

  • YOU KNOW HIM 3 FATHER JAMES MARTIN, EVERYBODY!

  • WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

  • THANK YOU, FATHER

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