Or was it more Belichick?

People like me.

I think most people, for the most part, thought Odds Coaches League.

It's more Belichick and Belichick is a great coach and even did a good job this year.

Going seven and nine.

Stephen.

As you pointed out, nine people opted.

Nine players opt, including defensive stars, not to play because of co vid.

There were some serious injuries on the team, a brand new quarterback.

They couldn't practice.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, seven and nine.

Pretty good job by Belichick.

Brady's in the Super Bowl.

Brady stacked the deck in his favor.

Didn't leave Belichick with the quarterback.

Put himself in a perfect position.

That's true.

He's in the Super Bowl.

A lot of quarterbacks you could put in Brady's position.

They wouldn't be in the Super Bowl.

So what am adults?

So I take that as a small piece of evidence.

It's not.

It doesn't end the discussion or the debate.

Let's see what Belichick does in the future, you know?

But right now Brady looks very good, right at this moment, Brady looks better than Belichick, and if your Camp Brady, which I think Amendola seems to be so you could take it with a grain of salt.

Come on, man.

You're downing the coach.

You're making the point that players playing coaches, coaches the coach doesn't tackle anyone.

He doesn't have value.

Come on, Stop that Danny Amendola.

But I have to take.

Can't just dismiss his view.

Who was Mawr?

The Patriot way.

Especially since year one.

There he is, Tom Brady in the Super Bowl.

I'm not just going to dismiss it.

I could not agree more with Stephen A and the comments he made about just being disrespectful in the way that you're gonna talk about the most winning organization in NFL history.

Like think about the two decades that you're talking about.

I'm pretty sure Belichick built those teams, right?

So not only does he hire guys to come in and play, does he find the guys that fit his system?

Does he help the coaches coach Those players that said, stay up all night, watch all this film and put him in the right position to make plays like, how about we go back and look at the Patriots defense for the entire Tom Brady time in New England?

averaged 18 points a game.

Like the life his entire career in New England, the Patriots defense averaged 18 points a game.

That's insane.

How good that really is.

So I think it's not only dismissive towards the coach, it's towards other players.

All those guys.

You don't think Teddy Bruschi doesn't define the Patriot way.

Ted Johnson, right?

I mean, will fork Tyler like, go through the list of guys on the defensive side and all?

Yeah, I all that's gonna be, you know, the whole thing's gonna be littered with those guys and Richard Seymour, right?

Like like these guys all deserve.

And what made them unique, Max, is that they all bought in toe Bella checks way.

So is Tom Brady responsible for those Super Bowls?

Absolutely.

He is.

But this has to be an and conversation the minute you make it in or you have dismissed both of them and the value and the role that they both played.

And the role, by the way, is probably the most important part for both of those guys.

Belichick didn't have to be a player, right?

He got the right players in the right positions.

And you know, it's not a fluke because he did it year after year after year and gave them a chance.

Did did Brady come in and assume a leadership role like none other?

Drive this organization to new heights, Do all those things?

Absolutely.

But when you just act and the reason it's so insulting is he brought you in.

He brought you in to help for those five years and to Stephen at his point on the other teams that were absolute trash, right?

So so you have never had a winning season outside.

So if you're telling me it's all about players, why couldn't you win on any of those teams?

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