Ah, personal question I've talked to several times before.

We've always had a wonderful time.

Least I have You seem annoyed most of time.

Um, you have had a wonderful time.

I've had a wonderful time talking to you.

I've really enjoyed talking to you.

You always seem take it or leave it.

Um, you have been married 32 years and just an incredible marriage, especially in this business of show.

Well, it's collective.

I've been married five times.

I still look at the success if you look at it that way.

Mickey Rooney was married for 160 years.

How did you and your wife meat.

We met.

And we have We were guests started my wife, Robin Dearden, was an actor, and she's retired now, but, um, we met doing a show called Air Wolf.

Oh, my God.

Do you remember this?

Yes, I remember Air Wolf.

Very, very bad show, but with a great thumping theme song that it out of that and it out of that.

And you got excited about the show.

And then slowly, as the show rolled out, its like, uh, you started losing interest.

And so which means it only ran for, like, seven seasons it incredibly well.

And my wife was the victim of the week, and I was the bad guy of the week, and I held her, literally held her captive by gunpoint.

And what a weird way to meet Because I met my wife on a remote 20 years ago, shooting a remote, which I think again, that was how I used to do remote.

The only way I could get anyone to talk to me was I would wave a gun around and make people.

No, I didn't do.

But I'm saying yours is so much stranger that you met your wife.

Your first introduction to her was you holding her hostage with a fake gun.

Well, it's also very sexy.

I think it was like she thought I was very dangerous.

He was like, Whoa, Did you guys have that chemistry right away?

We did.

And you know why I think we've been married for so long?

Is because at that time that's 35 years ago.

Now, 35 years ago, I had a girlfriend.

She had a boyfriend, so we didn't have the the need to to make a move.

We were able to play and flirt and yet to not have anything go any further than that.

So we were able to really be ourselves and and say God, she's really pretty and funny And yeah, I really like I had that same thing with my wife when we met.

I was very a sexual and so there was no threat that I would You know what I mean?

And and and then I just eventually sort of being sort of evolved in this other direction to like, it's like a battery.

Now you're double A or Triple A section.

Yeah, you know, I remember.

It's so funny that you met on Air Wolf because I remember that theme so well, the show.

I do.

And basically I hate to admit this, but it's how I start.

Most of my mornings is I play the Air Wolf theme.

I think we should take a look right now.

Liz John in the opening two Air Wolf.

What a different time in television.

It is when you know they spend a fortune on just a theme song and the visuals.

This'll was seven minutes of the show.

You know, it's incredible watching this now you realize it goes on for another 6.5 minutes, you know, First of all, let's make let's be clear to our viewers.

That is for anyone.

Younger people cannot believe how long show openings used to be, and what happened is they've now completely gone away.

There's there's a quick open, Yeah, that event.

But, you know, and then you're right into it.

That is a small fraction of the opening of that show you haven't even gotten to, and it's unbelievable.

Chips, The opening two chips.

I clocked it once it 45 minutes.

The actual story is only 6.5 minutes after that.

Then they wrap it up.

It was like the Hawaii 50 is also another big driving emotionally, you know, like citing Hawaii experience.

Wow.

No, It tells you how much television has changed that they're used to just be So there were three networks.

There was a limited number amount of product you would watch.

Ah, long opening.

Even if it wasn't great.

Because what else you gonna dio?

It's the seventies or the early eighties.

What do you got to do pal, and I heard the concept of having the big sound.

The big music intro was because in commercial television broadcast, people would leave the TV on, go for, go to the bathroom and go to the kitchen, and they would hear that music start to play.

And it was like a siren call.

They'd come back and all the show starting, and that would draw their attention back to it.

That's when we're locked into a time and a day.

We had to watch our show.

Yeah, now it's, you know, imagine No, but I mean, it's It is so different now.

I tried to explain this to my Children, and I sound like my dad talking about the Great Depression.

When I was growing up, I was like, What?

Who cares?

And he'd say, No, I'm telling you, had listened to a radio and had a curve top.

Who cares?

Now?

I'm telling them you had to line up and you had to watch that show when it came on, or you would miss out, Buddy Boy, they don't Yeah, I don't know why I talk that way.