WE'RE BACK WITH THE AUTHOR OF "THE DEVIL YOU KNOW," CHARLES

BLOW.

I KNOW THAT YOU GREW UP IN THE SOUTH AND WORKED IN NEW YORK FOR

26 YEARS AND NOW YOU'RE BACK IN THE SOUTH.

WHAT HAS THAT MEANT TO YOU, YOUR LIFE AND, WELL, JUST TO THE

EXPERIENCE OF LIVING FOR YOU TO BE BACK IN THE SOUTH?

>> I GREW UP IN ONE OF THOSE MAJORITY BLACK CITIES, RIGHT,

AND, SO, COMING BACK TO A PLACE LIKE ATLANTA, I UNDERSTAND IT.

IT FEELS VERY MUCH LIKE HOME, AND IT FEELS -- BLACK PROSPERITY

IS NOT AN ANOMALY.

WHERE IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THE POLICE ARE HUNTING YOU.

WHERE IT FEELS LAKE THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO BE

RESPONSIVE TO YOU.

THAT'S AN AMAZING FEELING.

WHEN I TELL PEOPLE -- TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT MOVING BACK, THEY

GIVE ME A WHOLE LITANY OF REASONS WHY THEY MIGHT NOT WANT

TO DO IT.

I SAY I UNDERSTAND THOSE, AND I HAVE ANOTHER LIST OF WHY YOU

SHOULD DO IT.

WHAT I'M TELLING THEM IS I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO

MOVE BACK INTO A UTOPIA.

IF BLACK MAJORITIES PRODUCE UTOPIAS, EVERY PERSON IN AMERICA

WOULD BE PROSPERING NOW BECAUSE EVERY STATE HAS BEEN MAJORITY

WHITE.

NO MATTER WHAT -- IF YOU GET A BLACK MAJORITY, YOU'RE STILL

GOING TO HAVE POVERTY, FOOD INSECURITY AND INCOME

INEQUALITY, BUT IN THE AGGREGATE, THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T

HAVE TO LIVE UNDER WHITE SUPREMACY ARE GOING TO DO BETTER

THAN THOSE WHO DO.

I JUST WANT TO HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING REGULAR

WHITE PEOPLE PROBLEMS.

>> Stephen: WELL, CHARLES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING

HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH.

>> Stephen: THE BOOK IS "THE DEVIL YOU KNOW."

IS AVAILABLE NOW.

CHARLES BLOW, EVERYBODY!

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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