Hear their Nicaraguans here there are.

There's El Salvadorians here, there There's so many different kinds.

We aren't just a monolithic group.

Were so many people.

There's not just one way to be Latin X.

One of the beautiful things about the Latin X list is that you have 10 writers.

All come from different experiences.

What drives you?

What's that push to me?

My culture represents a North Star that I can kind of follow it like I'm trying to be the artist.

Both my parents weren't allowed to be.

They know how complicated it is being Latin X in this country.

We've been here were indigenous.

This is our home.

I feel like now people are willing to pay attention.

Hello, My name is Marcelina trivia, and my pilot, Macho Liberate is on the inaugural Latin next TV list and I'm here today with JLS Show who's gonna ask me a few questions?

How do you feel being let next informs your writing?

My relationship with my Latina dad is complex.

My father's Mexican.

My mother is white.

I don't look particularly Mexican.

My name is very odd.

So when I was presented, people didn't know what to do with me?

A very common experience that makes people have is the where you from game like?

Yes, The reason why I look like this.

The reason why I sound like the way I sound.

The reason why my name is weird is because I'm Mexican.

That's what you wanted to know.

So that was odd for me.

And I don't speak Spanish.

My father didn't speak thio any of us in Spanish while we were growing up.

When I got Thio College, I studied the performance of ethnicity and how people perform what they are.

Do you feel like you're performing more for, uh, like you mentioned the other white students?

Oh, no.

The scientist.

Yeah, way.

I'm gonna cut sticks.

Except there my hands take two.

Can you discover that moment of being proud of that?

Yeah.

I've always been proud of being Mexican, and I grew up going to evil past visiting with my abuelita named after her.

Um, Dona Marcelina.

I've always been very proud of being Mexican.

Even when I was in the all white schools, Like I would make sure people said I was never Marcie, I was Marcelina or Marcelina But even though I was proud and even though I loved my the Mexican side of my family, I did still feel that disconnect.

Well, it took me until I was about 32.

Actually feel it.

I understand my Latina dad from academic perspective from a psychological perspective.

Like I understand it.

It wasn't until I got into the Latin X company agenda that I was like, e am being seen as Mexican.

Now I just am I can just exist and people understand it and they know my story because they would get to They know how complicated it is being Latin X in this country.

Because we were here.

Been here, were indigenous.

This is our home.

It was being seen.

I was finally seen.

Um, yeah, and I didn't have to explain myself.

I'm sorry.

Um, got your good When I write, the context of the situation has to be explained, but the characters are self explanatory and like the story is self explanatory.

So when I write, yes, the dressings will have Latin X elements.

But every story is a human story.

What would you say are the underlying themes of macho liberate in Latin X culture.

Toxic masculinity is such a phenomenon that we coined a word for it.

Machismo, the subtext or the super text of my pilot macho library?

Is that Max being this new kind of Latin X man who whose fathers have taught him to be in touch with his feelings and tell him that it's okay to just be yourself and still be a man is going to come head to head with the embodiment of machismo.

Very strong, aggressive luchador.

I grew up watching my male family members trying Thio live up to what it means to be a man, and watching them try to live up to that is heartbreaking.

I don't speak to my father very often because of issues surrounding machismo, but he wasn't an immigrant to this country.

But he had, ah, hard time growing up as a Mexican in this country, and I do respect him a lot.

I I e respect him a lot, and I respect my brother a lot.

Um, on they did have a good influence on me.

They did.

It's just I don't like seeing them in so much pain, so I don't talk to them very often.

maybe.

Maybe there's room for healing now.

But now that I've explained myself in non academic terms, maybe my point of view will be a little easier to get across.

But yeah, I'd say that my father is also, um ah, very positive influence on So, um, gosh, yeah, where you where you How you doing?

What do you think?

How do you feel about how the Latin X communities represented on in the media way aren't very much?

Just being able to see people who look like us and have names like ours on TV is empowering just as it's important.

Toe have women characters in positions of power.

We are politicians where scientists were engineers, were architects.

We were actors were writers.

We need to not only get more Latin X stories out there, we need to show this scope and the breath of what are diaspora.

Actually looks like we don't just we don't have a monolithic appearance.

We don't have a monolithic point of view.

We are very diverse and and talking with people in the industry.

Um, I'm hopeful everybody seems to be on the same page since the death of George Floyd and the black lives matters.

Movement has gained brown in in mainstream.

It has emboldened me to speak up about these issues in these meetings that I'm taking.

And I'm finding that the executives that I'm talking to are listening more carefully.

Now I feel like I'm being hurt.

Well, those who are all the questions I have before we finish up.

Thank you so much for taking the time to chat with me today.

Thank you so much for being quarantined with me so that you could talk to me.

It was lovely.

Happy Latin next Heritage Month Cut.

No, wait.

I don't need sticks to cut.

Thank you for celebrating Latin Heritage Month with us.