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  • - [Lauren] The brothers were like, "Let's not get married.

  • "Why don't we all just like, be together?

  • "We'll just be like a unit."

  • And Katharine's like, "Maybe I'll meet someone

  • "I actually like, like you guys are my brothers,

  • "and I don't really feel like that about you guys,

  • "and I don't think I should feel like that about you guys."

  • They're like, "No, no, no, no, no.

  • "Let's just stick together and be like a thing."

  • (dramatic music)

  • - Hello, I am Paget Brewster,

  • and today we are going to talk about the Kellogg brothers.

  • In 1876, Dr. John Kellogg created a sanitarium

  • in Battle Creek, Michigan,

  • except he was an orator in the Seventh Day Adventist church.

  • He tells his patients no sex, no meat,

  • no alcohol, no sugar,

  • no anything prurient or sensual.

  • (bleep)

  • Aren't you guys tired?

  • Psh, shh! - Can I?

  • All right.

  • - He tells his patients, "You need to take

  • "at least two solid, ropy poops per day."

  • In 1880, Dr. John reaches out to his younger brother, Will,

  • who he beat up the whole time he was growing up,

  • and he says, "Hey, leave that broom company.

  • "I got to this, you know, sanitarium spa thing.

  • "There's over 1,000 people a week here,

  • "hanging out, swimming and doing stuff.

  • "You should just come and, you know,

  • "help me out with everything."

  • And Will says, "Okay, I gotta get the (bleep) outta here."

  • Will, he's just sort of this sad little whipping boy

  • for his big famous brother, John.

  • He actually said, "I use my brother

  • "as a foot warmer in the winter."

  • I don't even know what that means.

  • Like, he beat him up and he stuck his feet

  • under him for the, anyway.

  • He has to shave him.

  • He actually has to call his own brother Dr. Kellogg.

  • And has to run the kitchen,

  • and has to run the books.

  • So, Dr. John tells his younger brother Will,

  • "Hey, make something that people want to eat,

  • "because no one wants vegetarian food.

  • "So, you do this cause I'm busy.

  • "I gotta, you know, do lectures and stuff."

  • So Will, whose bookkeeping office

  • is next to the kitchen.

  • One night, he's trying to make

  • this stupid vegetarian (bleep).

  • He leaves the dough out.

  • He comes in the next morning,

  • and the dough that he left out has molded.

  • And he's like, oh goddamnit, (bleep) is moldy.

  • (bleep) it, I'm on a budget.

  • And he puts it through the grinder anyway.

  • And the small amount of mold

  • made that dough flakes, cornflakes!

  • And he's like, oh, oh (bleep),

  • oh we made, I made a cereal!

  • So he tells John, John comes down oh, you know,

  • and then they start producing this cereal, cornflakes,

  • like cornflakes that we all know,

  • that Will discovered with mold.

  • One week, C.W. Post, this industrialist is visiting,

  • and John says, "Oh, you should see

  • "the cornflakes we're making.

  • "We're making our own cereal."

  • And Will is saying, "Oh, no, don't, I made that.

  • "Don't you say," and...

  • Oh, oh, I'm not talkin' right.

  • All together, but close enough.

  • C.W. Post steals it, sells it,

  • makes a million dollars.

  • So Will's like, "(bleep) you man,

  • "you (bleep) me, you (bleep) us!

  • "If we add sugar, we can sell the cereal."

  • And John says, "You can't put sugar on it.

  • "That's not Seventh Day Adventist.

  • "Who do you think you are?"

  • Will says, "Oh, you know, you know who I think I am?

  • "I think I'm the guy who invented (bleep) cornflakes.

  • "I'm gonna put sugar on 'em and sell 'em and (bleep) you."

  • So he takes his cereal, and he sets up

  • the Kellogg Toasted Flakes Company.

  • Will makes it a million dollar enterprise.

  • He's like, I'm putting sugar on my (bleep), you!

  • The younger brother now finally comes out

  • of his older brother's shadow,

  • and becomes a huge American industrialist.

  • The brothers sue each other back and forth for 10 years.

  • I want the name of Kellogg's.

  • I want the name of Kellogg's.

  • I want the name of Kellogg's.

  • No, I deserve it.

  • I made the, whatever.

  • So, Will, this younger brother,

  • wins the name in federal court.

  • I'm gonna burp.

  • - [Derek] It's okay.

  • - I hope it's just a burp.

  • Will is a huge industrialist in the United States.

  • He invents a bunch of cereals.

  • Meanwhile, John loses all credibility.

  • In 1943, John is on his death bed.

  • He writes to his younger brother,

  • having not spoken for the past 20 years.

  • And he gave it to his social secretary, or whatever.

  • He had no family.

  • His only family was Will.

  • She never sent it, but Will eight years later, also dying,

  • blind, was told on his deathbed,

  • "Your brother wrote a letter

  • "eight years ago saying,

  • "I'm sorry, I screwed up, I apologize.

  • "I treated you as a lesser man,

  • "when in fact I was the lesser man."

  • Essentially that's what he said.

  • I read it, but I can't remember entirely.

  • But that's essentially what he said.

  • Sorry.

  • Will sat up on his deathbed, and said "Good God,

  • "why didn't anyone tell me about this before now?"

  • And he died!

  • (dramatic music)

  • That's just awful. - Yeah.

  • - That's the (bleep) worst.

  • (cereal crunching)

  • Yeah, but right?

  • Like, Will was right.

  • You wanna put some sugar on 'em.

  • - Yeah, it is lacking sugar.

  • - Otherwise it's just mold.

  • Mold flakes.

  • That's good.

  • - How's it going?

  • I'm Hollywood's J.D. Ryznar, and today

  • we're gonna talk about the Fox sisters,

  • and all the ghosts they talked to.

  • - I'm gonna prove you wrong on that.

  • - So, our story begins in the 1840s

  • in the small farmhouse of the Fox family.

  • And it's a spooky house.

  • They hear sounds at night, and knocks on the door.

  • Phantom steps on the stairs.

  • (fist knocking)

  • And young Maggie and Katy Fox

  • run into their parents' room and say,

  • "Mom, Dad, there's a fricking ghost in our room!

  • "You gotta come check it out."

  • And the mom runs into the room,

  • and the girls are like, "Ghost, are you there?"

  • Tap, rap, ghost, are you there?

  • Rap two times for yes, three times for no.

  • And the ghost goes (knocks twice),

  • and the mom's like, "Oh my, holy smokes!

  • "It's a ghost in our house!"

  • What they learned from the rapper,

  • once they figured out a special code,

  • was that this ghost was a peddler

  • who was murdered,

  • and buried in their cellar.

  • And the mom, she starts bringing neighbors over

  • and everybody was like, "Oh my, these girls

  • "can talk to ghosts and the spirits of the dead.

  • "This is the real deal!"

  • So, fearing for their daughters' souls,

  • Ma and Pa Fox send Maggie and Katy off to live

  • with their sister Leah in Rochester, New York.

  • And when Leah saw their skills with communicating to ghosts,

  • she was like "I'm gonna be your manager,

  • "and we're gonna make a lot of money!"

  • So she invites the press, and the press comes,