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  • ♪♪♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY,

  • WE'RE BACK WITH SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS.

  • ER YOU SAID IN SEPTEMBER, YOU WARNED AS WE COUNT EVERY VOTE,

  • I'VE THING POSSIBLE MUST BE DONE TO PREVENT CHAOS, DISINFORMATION

  • AND, YES, EVEN VIOLENCE.

  • DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE AT THIS POINT WHY, AS YOU SAY, THIS

  • TREMENDOUS FAILURE HAPPENED?

  • BECAUSE -- AND CHRISTOPHER WRAY SAID THE MOST DANGEROUS DOMESTIC

  • TERRORIST THREAT RIGHT NOW IS FROM WHITE SUPREMACIST GROUPS IN

  • THIS COUNTRY.

  • SO IT'S NOT LIKE PEOPLE WEREN'T WARNED.

  • >> NO, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

  • ALL I CAN TELL YOU -- YOU KNOW, WE'RE HEARING DIFFERENT STORIES

  • FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE -- EITHER IT WAS A GO DESK AND HORRIFIC

  • FAILURE TO UNDERSTAND AND TO ANTICIPATE WHAT WAS HAPPENING --

  • I SPOKE TO A VERY HIGHER-UP GUY WHILE I WAS IN LOCKDOWN, AND HIS

  • RESPONSE WAS, WELL, WE JUST DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THIS.

  • REALLY?

  • REALLY?

  • WITH ALL OF YOUR INTELLIGENCE OPERATIONS, YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT

  • WAS GOING ONLINE, YOU DIDN'T KNOW THE THREAT TO THE CAPITOL,

  • YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS EGGING THESE

  • PEOPLE ON?

  • YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT, REALLY?

  • SO A TREMENDOUS FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP, WHICH WILL BE

  • INVESTIGATED, AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN.

  • >> Stephen: ALEXANDER HAMILTON WROTE IN FEDERALIST 27, THE HOPE

  • OF IMPUNITY IS A STRONG INCITEMENT TO SEDITION.

  • THE DREAD OF PUNISHMENT A PROPORTIONATELY STRONG

  • DISCOURAGEMENT TO IT.

  • ISN'T IT IMPORTANT THAT JUSTICE BE SWIFT AND THE HAMMER BE HARD?

  • >> WELL, THAT'S AMONG OTHER REASONS WHY THE HOUSE, IN RATHER

  • QUICK TIME, IMPEACHED TRUMP AND WHY HE MUST BE CONVICTED.

  • YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ASK ME, THEY SAY, WHAT IS THE SENSE OF

  • IMPEACHING A GUY WHO HAS A WEEK LEFT IN HIS TERM, AND THERE'S A

  • LOT OF SENSE TO IT, AND THE SENSE IS THAT THIS PRESIDENT AND

  • ANYBODY ELSE WHO ENTERS THE OVAL OFFICE MUST UNDERSTAND THAT IF

  • YOU INCITE INSURRECTION AGAINST YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT FOR YOUR OWN

  • CHIEF POLITICAL PURPOSES, THAT WILL BE SEVERELY PUNISHED.

  • >> Stephen: I TRUST THAT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND THE

  • F.B.I. IS TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY AND WILL USE ALL OF THE POWER AT

  • THEIR COMMAND TO BRING THE PEOPLE WHO DID THIS TO JUSTICE,

  • AND CERTAINLY NOTHING THEY DID WAS DEFENSIBLE, BUT WHAT ABOUT

  • PEOPLE LIKE JOSH HAWLEY AND TED CRUZ?

  • WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE MOE BROOKS, ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO

  • INCITED THIS CROWD, AS I SAID AND YOU AGREED, WITH THE BIG

  • LIE?

  • I DON'T THINK THAT'S A CONTROVERSIAL THING THAT THEY

  • INSPIRED THESE PEOPLE.

  • WHAT CAN BE DONE SO THAT NO GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL EVER DOES

  • THIS AGAIN AND, CERTAINLY, NO CROWD EVER DOES THIS AGAIN?

  • DOESN'T THERE HAVE -- SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE TO THEM, WHAT CAN

  • THE SENATE DO?

  • >> I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.

  • WHAT HAS CONCERNED ME THE MOST, AND, AGAIN, I'M HEARING

  • ALLEGATIONS ON THESE HAVE TO BE INVESTIGATED, IS THAT THERE WERE

  • SOME MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE WHO ACTUALLY ESCORTED PEOPLE WHO

  • TURNED OUT TO BE RIOTERS THE DAY BEFORE THROUGH THE CAPITOL

  • PREMISES.

  • NOW, WHAT THE HELL THAT'S ABOUT, WE HAVE TO FIND OUT.

  • >> Stephen: EVEN THOUGH THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO VISITORS, NO

  • TOURS OF THE CAPITOL SINCE MARCH.

  • >> THAT'S RIGHT.

  • >> Stephen: NOT EVEN MEMBERS ARE REALLY ALLOWED TO BRING ANY

  • PEOPLE IN FOR A TOUR.

  • >> THAT'S RIGHT.

  • IF THAT ALLEGATION IS TRUE, STEPHEN, IF IT'S TRUE, THAT TELL

  • US SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DEALT WITH.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT ABOUT THE SENATORS?

  • I KNOW YOU'RE THE WORLD'S MOST DELIBERATIVE BODY BUT THERE HAS

  • TO BE A LIMIT WHERE YOU HAVE TO ASK SHOULD THIS PERSON BE IN

  • HERE WITH US IF THEY AREN'T WILLING TO ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF

  • THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN THEY VOTE?

  • >> ON THE ONE HAND YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT EXPELLING

  • PEOPLE, THEY WERE ELECTED BY CONSTITUENTS.

  • TRUST ME, THIS WILL BE AN ISSUE.

  • HOW WE DEAL WITH THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT

  • VERY, VERY HARD.

  • >> Stephen: CAN YOU AT LEAST MAKE TED CRUZ OR JOSH HAWLEY

  • WEAR A STUPID HAT THAT SAYS SEDITIONIST ON TOP?

  • THEY HAVE TO FACE THE CORNER.

  • THERE HAS TO BE A STAIN THAT DOESN'T LEAVE THEM AS A JUDGMENT

  • OF HISTORY.

  • >> AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CRISIS IS YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT

  • WHO GAVE US A BIG, BIG LIE THAT HE WON THE ELECTION BY A LAND

  • SLIDE WHEN, IN FACT, HE LOST, AND THEN YOU HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF

  • PEOPLE, NOT JUST CRUZ AND HAWLEY, WHO TID NOT SAY WHAT IS

  • SIMPLY THE TRUTH, HEY, PEOPLE RUN IN ELECTIONS AND LOSE.

  • I'VE WON, SOMETIMES YOU WIN.

  • H LOST THE ELECTION, PERIOD, END OF DISCUSSION, AND WE HAD

  • VERY VERY VERY FEW SENATORS WHO MADE THAT STATEMENT.

  • >> Stephen: ONCE THE NEWEST SNRRTS ARE SWORN?

  • -- SENATORS ARE SWORN IN, THE DEMOCRATS, YOU CONFERENCING WITH

  • THEM, WILL HAVE CONTROL OF THE SENATE, AND YOU WILL BE THE NEW

  • CHAIR OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE.

  • THAT'S YOUR FIRST PRIORITY?

  • >> MY FIRST PRIORITY IS TO WORK ON A COMPREHENSIVE

  • RECONCILIATION BILL, WITHOUT GETTING INTO ALL THE RULES OF

  • THE SENATE.

  • THIS IS A MEANS BY WHICH WE CAN PASS VERY SIGNIFICANT

  • LEGISLATION WITH A MAJORITY, WITH 51 VOTES AND NOT WITH 60.

  • AND I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT RECONCILIATION BILL AS BOLD AND

  • AGGRESSIVE AS I POSSIBLY CAN.

  • WE FACE MORE CRISES TODAY THAN ANYTIME IN THE MODERN HISTORY OF

  • THIS COUNTRY.

  • IT'S NOT JUST THE TERRIBLE PANDEMIC WHICH HAS CLAIMED

  • ALMOST 400,000 LIVES, IT IS MASSIVE UNEMPLOYMENT, MILLIONS

  • OF PEOPLE UNABLE TO FEED THEIR KIDS, PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING EIC

  • EVICTED, PEOPLE WHO CAN'T GO TO THE DOCTOR BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO

  • HEALTHCARE.

  • WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS RESPOND TO THE PAIN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE

  • FEELING, WHICH IS ENORMOUS RIGHT NOW.

  • PEOPLE ARE LOSING FAITH IN GOVERNMENT.

  • WE HAVE TO RESTORE THE FAITH BY SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT?

  • WE HEAR YOUR PAIN AND WE'RE GOING TO RESPOND IN A BOLD

  • MANNER AND, IN ADDITION TO THAT, PROBABLY IN A SECOND

  • RECONCILIATION BILL, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE SYSTEMIC,

  • LONG-TERM, ONGOING PROBLEMS FACING THIS COUNTRY.

  • PEOPLE CAN'T LIVE ON $10 AN HOUR.

  • WE'VE GOT TO RAISE THE MINIMUM-WAGE TO A LIVING WAGE.

  • INSANE WE ARE THE ONLY MAJOR COUNTRY ON EARTH NOT TO HAVE

  • GUARANTEED HEALTHCARE TO ALL, OR HAVE PAID FAMILY AND MEDICAL

  • LEAVE.

  • WE'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH CLIMATE CHANGE, WITH COUNTRIES AROUND

  • THE WORLD, OR WE'RE NOT LEAVING MUCH TO OUR KIDS OR

  • GRANDCHILDREN.

  • IN OTHER WORDS, AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT IN HISTORY,

  • CONGRESS WILL HAVE TO RISE UP AND BE EXTREMELY BOLD IN

  • ADDRESSING THE MAJOR CRISES FACING WORKING FAMILIES AND THE

  • MIDDLE CLASS AND I INTEND TO BE ACTIVE IN THAT PROCESS.

  • >> Stephen: PRESIDENT-ELECT BIDEN RELEASED

  • THE RESCUE PLAN.

  • CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT IT CONTAINS?

  • > IT'S A SERIOUS START.

  • AMONG OTHER THINGS, IN LOOKING AGENT THE PANDEMIC, IT SAYS WE

  • NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL OF THE VACCINE PRODUCTION WE

  • POSSIBLY CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE VACCINES OUT AROUND

  • THE COUNTRY.

  • WE NEED A LOT BETTER JOB DISTRIBUTING THOSE VACCINES,

  • GETTING THE ARMS INTO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

  • WE ARE NOT DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.

  • BIDEN'S PLAN ALSO UNDERSTANDS THAT THE ECONOMY IS IN SHAMBLES

  • AND THAT WE NEED EMERGENCY RELIEF FOR WORKING FAMILIES.

  • HE IS SUPPORTIVE OF ANOTHER $1,400 ON TOP OF THE $600 WE

  • PROVPROVIDED IN THE LAST BILL FO WORKING CLASS ADULTS AND THEIR

  • KIDS, EXTENDING UNEMPLOYMENT, MAKING SURE THAT SMALL

  • BUSINESSES ARE ABLE TO SURVIVE.

  • SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A LOT OF HARD LOOK

  • AT THE AT THE TAILS, BUT IT IS A VERY GOOD START IN ADDRESSING

  • THE PANDEMIC CRISIS AND THE ECONOMIC CRISIS WE NOW FACE.

  • >> Stephen: IF I COULD MAKE JUST TWO SUGGESTIONS, AND YOU

  • CAN SAY YOU GO TO HELL, STEPHEN COLBERT, BUT MY TWO SUGGESTIONS

  • WOULD BE THIS, ONE, PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT VOTING RIGHTS

  • BECAUSE THERE IS ONE PARTY IN THIS COUNTRY WHO WANTS TO GET

  • INTO OFFICE AND PULL UP THE LADDER BEHIND THEM, AND IT IS

  • VERY IMPORTANT THAT WHATEVER GAINS YOU MAKE ARE MAINTAINED BY

  • FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS OR TOSSED OUT BY FREE AND FAIR

  • ELECTIONS, WHATEVER.

  • THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DECIDE.

  • BUT IF OUR VOTING RIGHTS ARE NOT PROTECTED -- AND I DON'T KNOW

  • WHAT CAN BE DONE ON A FEDERAL LEVEL --

  • >> A LOT CAN BE DONE, STEPHEN.

  • YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.

  • LOOK, AMONG THE MANY OTHER CRISES WE'RE FACING NOW,

  • OBVIOUSLY LED BY TRUMP, THERE IS A CHALLENGE, A FIERCE EFFORT TO

  • UNDERSTOOD MINE AMERICAN DEMOCRACY AND THE RESPONSE HAS

  • GOT TO BE THAT WE'RE CREATING A MORE VIBRANT DEMOCRACY WHICH

  • MEANS EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO VOTE.

  • WE WON'T HAVE TO WAIT IN LINE, DEAL WITH VOTER SUPPRESSION.

  • WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH CITIZENS UNITED AND THE ABILITY OF

  • BILLIONAIRES TO BUY ELECTIONS.

  • BUT HOW WE CREATE A SITUATION WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO

  • UNDERSTAND THE POLITICAL PROCESS CAN VOTE AS EASILY AS POSSIBLE

  • AND THOSE ARE FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS, ABSOLUTELY A VERY

  • HIGH PRIORITY.

  • >> Stephen: BACK WITH MORE SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS.

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