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  • -My first guest is a very talented actor

  • that you know from his work in the Marvel cinematic universe.

  • His new film, "Outside the Wire,"

  • begins streaming tomorrow on Netflix.

  • Here he is, Anthony Mackie!

  • Look at this. -What's up, man?

  • -We got a lot to talk about, buddy,

  • but, first, I want to say congratulations,

  • because you're the biggest New Orleans Saints fan

  • that I know, and the Saints had a big playoff win last week.

  • -Huge win. Huge.

  • Now we get our division rival, Tampa Bay.

  • -What's it like watching the game with you,

  • with Anthony Mackie?

  • -You know what? It's a hard ride to roll.

  • -Yeah.

  • -You know, it's a lot of talking, a lot of screaming,

  • a lot of throwing stuff, a lot of drinks, a lot of hugging,

  • a lot of crying.

  • It's an emotional ride. -Are you a superstitious fan?

  • Do you have to do anything, like, in order or anything?

  • -I'm very superstitious.

  • So, you know, the game comes on noon here,

  • 1:00 p.m. Eastern Standard Time,

  • and so I have to, you know, get everything ready.

  • I have my collective jerseys in order of strength,

  • like, the strongest being my 12-year-old jersey,

  • the weakest being my 1-year-old jersey, and so on and so forth.

  • And every other year, I get a jersey.

  • So, you know, I have my slippers, my socks,

  • my sweatshirt if I really need, like, a strong pull.

  • So, you know, I'm very superstitious.

  • I have to wear my Saints slippers and socks

  • every day when I'm home.

  • -For how long? Since when? When you were a kid?

  • -No, since we won the Super Bowl, man,

  • Super Bowl XLIV.

  • -That changed it. -Obama was the 44th president.

  • You play craps, 44. Hard 8. 44, baby.

  • -[ Laughs ] Hard 8. Oh, my gosh.

  • This weekend, though, Saints going up against

  • Tom Brady.

  • -Yeah, man, yeah. -How do you feel?

  • -I have an issue with -- I mean, look, I hate Tom Brady, man.

  • I hated him when he was with New England.

  • Tom Brady is one of those people I know I'm going to

  • love him so much that I hate him,

  • so I can never meet him, because I just want to

  • hang out with him and hug him and, like,

  • comb his hair and cook him dinner.

  • Like, I just want to, like, hang in a hot tub with Tom Brady

  • and talk about fun stuff.

  • -Yeah, he is cool. He is too cool, man.

  • He's too perfect.

  • You go, "Yeah, there's got to be something up."

  • -Yeah, he's like a Shih Tzu.

  • Like, he's so beautiful, you just want to, you know,

  • shake him a little bit.

  • -You do, but, also, he gets into those situations.

  • You go, "Well, he can't do that.

  • I mean, they're down, you know, 30 points."

  • And he goes...

  • And you go, "Okay, come on." Why would I say that?

  • -And he does it every time, so to build up my power,

  • I wear my slippers, my Saints slippers,

  • and my socks, my Saints socks.

  • See what I'm saying?

  • I got wear them every day up until the game,

  • for the whole week.

  • -Oh, do you really? You take it that far?

  • -Yeah, you got build up the power.

  • -[ Laughs ] Dude, good. Now I'm rooting for them.

  • I hope they win, bud. -They got to. They got to.

  • -I'm glad they're doing well, because I've read

  • that you're in this "Avengers"-only

  • fantasy-football league,

  • and your team did not do so well this --

  • You finished second to last.

  • It's out. People are talking about it.

  • Chris Pratt ended up winning this year.

  • It's the headline of every newspaper.

  • Which of the Avengers is the biggest trash talker

  • when it comes to fantasy football?

  • -It's a split.

  • I mean, Chris Evans talks a lot of trash.

  • Paul Rudd talks intellectual trash,

  • which is confusing, because you don't know

  • if he's insulting you, but you feel like

  • it's a dis somewhere in there.

  • So he's the guy you want to fight.

  • You know, you can talk back to Chris,

  • but Paul, it's like, "Nah."

  • -Yeah, you get it like three days later.

  • You go, "Hey, that was insane.

  • That was like four levels of insult."

  • -Or by the time you Google all the words in his insult,

  • it's too late.

  • -The game's over. Yeah, exactly.

  • Hey, I want to talk about your new movie, "Outside the Wire."

  • -Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited about it.

  • -It's great.

  • There's action. There's robots. There's a twist.

  • It's a good script.

  • I mean, can you set up the movie?

  • -"Outside the Wire" is a story of two soldiers

  • that go out and try to stop a bad guy

  • from getting nukes to destroy America and take over the world.

  • I play a cyborg, and we have Damson Idris,

  • who comes in, who is a drone pilot,

  • and I enlist him to help me and go out and save the world.

  • -You did a lot of stunts in this movie,

  • and you were telling me,

  • I mean, you're jumping off buildings, explosions.

  • It's everywhere.

  • But you were telling me your stuntman

  • actually got hurt the first week of shooting,

  • so you kind of did a lot of your own stunts.

  • Talk to me about this.

  • -Dude, first day, first stunt, my stuntman

  • was supposed to chase a dude through a market,

  • tackle him over a table.

  • So he tackles him, hits his head on the ground.

  • He's concussed, out, like that.

  • And for some reason, summer of 2018 was a very good summer

  • for black stuntmen, because we couldn't find another dude

  • to come in and do my stunts.

  • So my director, Mikael -- he calls me over

  • and he's like, "Okay, Anthony, you know, you're big guy.

  • You go to gym, right? People like you.

  • You big guy. Come on. Jump off the building."

  • And I'm like, "What?" He goes, "Come on, big guy."

  • Come on."

  • -"Big guy. Big guy, come on." Dude, so that was you.

  • I go, "Oh, my gosh." -Yeah.

  • -Now I got to rewatch it again, man.

  • It's a pretty intense movie.

  • I heard that something you do after a long day of shooting,

  • to relax, you watch reruns of "The Golden Girls."

  • Is this true? -Yeah. Very true.

  • Hallmark has the best TV programming

  • from 9:00 p.m. to 2:30 a.m.,

  • and they show about eight episodes of "The Golden Girls,"

  • and they follow it up with "Frasier."

  • And If you don't know me, I am a "Golden Girl" kind of guy.

  • -Man, they can land a joke, huh?

  • -Oh, they kill it. They kill it.

  • It's funny, when you look at them,

  • the level of talent, comedic and dramatic, they have.

  • I mean, if you look at --

  • You know, Betty White is one of the most talented women.

  • She had her own talk show.

  • She, like -- She was a professional dancer, actress.

  • She was amazing. Those four women were amazing.

  • -Did you ever meet Betty White?

  • -[ Laughs ] I met her once.

  • I was in New York at this event, and she was there.

  • And, you know, I fan-boyed out and ran up to her

  • and was like, "Oh, my God.

  • I love you so much. I'm such a fan.

  • Like, the episode when you were tap-dancing was so beautiful."

  • So she laughed and touched my face and she says,

  • "Oh, you make me wish I was 40 years younger."

  • And I was like... -What?!

  • -I would do that.

  • [ Both laugh ]

  • -Oh, my gosh. -I would do that.

  • -Oh, my gosh.

  • Well, dude, you're so great in this movie,

  • so whatever "The Golden Girls" did for you, it worked.

  • I want to show everyone a clip.

  • Here's our pal Anthony Mackie in "Outside the Wire" on Netflix.

  • Take a look.

  • -Dress lieutenant. Double time.

  • -What's this?

  • -You wear your uniform out there,

  • you'll be a standing target.

  • -Thought I'd be guarding a fence, sir.

  • -[ Chuckles ]

  • -I don't have any specialist training as a field agent.

  • -Don't worry.

  • I'm special enough for both of us.

  • ♪♪

  • -You're a -- -Your commanding officer.

  • Fourth-generation biotech,

  • and I'm giving you 60 seconds to deal with it.

  • -When we come back, Anthony Mackie and I

  • are going head-to-head in a game of "Hey Robot."

  • Stick around.

-My first guest is a very talented actor

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