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  • Stephen A.

  • I like both these hires, so this is a tough one for you.

  • But which one do you think is the better?

  • Higher?

  • Oh, easily Urban Meyer.

  • I mean, Saleh had the 17th ranked defense this year, wasn't his fault.

  • Some injuries.

  • And they were great against the run in the past, just 17th in points allowed.

  • But the bottom line is, I I get I get the fact that he could be inspirational.

  • There's New York City.

  • We'll see what he does.

  • There's no question about Urban Meyer.

  • There's no question about the greatness of Urban Meyer.

  • Long before we knew who the hell urban Meyer was.

  • Let's understand why he succeeded in the University of Florida.

  • The man went 22 2 in two years at Utah, tending to the first year, 12 and, oh, the second year and the Fiesta Bowl win.

  • When I think he co coach Kyle Whittingham at that for the Fiesta Bowl because he was in route to Florida and we know what he did at Florida national championship, we know what he did.

  • Ohio State, two national championships.

  • We know that at Utah he won 91% of his games, and at Ohio State he won 90% of his games.

  • This brother is elite.

  • Wherever urban Meyer goes, it's an upward move.

  • The man is just brilliant at coaching the game or football, whether it's literally being a man amongst boys.

  • You know, being that father figure, knowing his exes and oh's knowing how to inspire the motivate to maximize the potential around you.

  • He's proven it on the collegiate level.

  • Is the NFL different?

  • Absolutely.

  • It's different for most coaches, but the elite once.

  • It doesn't appear to matter.

  • In some cases.

  • I think this is one of those cases.

  • He's not just going to Jacksonville, but he's going to bring Trevor Lawrence with them so they'll finally have a quarterback that they could rely upon and build around.

  • And obviously, you don't have Tom Coughlin hovering over this organization, getting in the way with his drill sergeant, a tendencies that served to alienate stars like Jalen Ramsey, Kallias, Campbell and others know this is a situation where urban Mayan, his impeccable resume, speaks for itself.

  • And I think that's a huge, huge deal, particularly in Jacksonville.

  • Remember, Max?

  • It doesn't matter.

  • The market in the National Football League.

  • They've successfully going about the business off accomplishing parody throughout small market teams, big market teams.

  • It don't matter with a hard salary cap league or whatever the case may be.

  • Bottom line is, when it comes to football, none of that is relevant in the National Football League.

  • It's about your ability to coach and having a personnel around you.

  • I believe in Urban Meyer, and I believe this is obviously the right job for him, particularly since he succeeded so much in Gainesville.

  • And now Jacksonville is obviously not that far away.

  • This is why he went back there.

  • I think it's a great move.

  • Saleh is the better higher and they're both good hires that both teams did well here.

  • Um, masala is the better higher for the Jets.

  • And by the way, when the Giants were looking for coaching candidates and you know Giants fans like me, we're hoping maybe they get to talk to him.

  • Maybe they hire, maybe they hire him.

  • Stephen A.

  • There is something about a guy when you hear.

  • First of all, he takes over a team with the defense ranked dead last in the NFL, the worst defense in the NFL and within two seasons their top five defense, like consistently season overseas in their top five defense.

  • And then this year.

  • Okay, there, middle of the pack defense.

  • They had a lot of injuries.

  • That was a bizarre year with covert and everything.

  • Still a middle of the pack defense.

  • There's something about that defensive guy, that D coordinator who gets those kind of results and who sits in the meeting and wows everyone there.

  • Right?

  • You and I always bring it up.

  • Tomlin What?

  • Tomlin got the job, then you hear him talking about Okay, I get it.

  • Well, he wowed us in the meeting.

  • Yeah, no kidding.

  • He gave you that sense, obviously.

  • And sorrow is one of those guys.

  • According to everyone, including, as has been widely reported at this point, Richard Sherman, who says they got a good one.

  • No players who he has coached, uh, by reputation, what you're hearing about the impression he makes and the results as a coach.

  • Stephen A.

  • All in the NFL in the NFL, not in college.

  • Now.

  • I know the Jags air in a really good position.

  • Urban Meyer inherits a good situation because while you can't really recruit in the NFL, that's a big part of coaching in college.

  • He is sort of, you know, in a way, recruiting because they're going to use the pick on the best quarterback in the draft on Trevor Lawrence, and that gives them the advantage.

  • And it's been widely reported.

  • Or at least Adam Schefter reported, they have $100 million in cap space.

  • But guess what?

  • The Jets have the second pick in the draft, and they have another first round pick.

  • They also have a lot of draft capital, and they have, like, $70 million in cap space.

  • So they both inherit good situations.

  • And while they're both good hires, after everything I've just said about solid, you have to, like start to parse things and see where there's a little difference.

  • Stephen a urban Urban Meyer's managerial skills in terms of his staff and like that was a controversy with Zack Smith that had him leave his last job.

  • Right.

  • Well, that's a lot of being a NFL head coach.

  • E.

  • That wasn't about what I'm saying.

  • That wasn't about football.

  • That was about some other things, you know, way to get into that.

  • That's part of, you know.

  • I mean, that could happen to anybody.

  • Max, I'll say this.

  • Urban Meyer has twice left jobs when it got tough and by the way, they were going in the wrong direction.

  • Ohio State.

  • Like when you look at how Maney bad losses they had, it's not that there were a lot of them, but the losses, like, Wow, they lost that game.

  • Their issues in the running game That all happened in Urban Meyer's last season.

  • Now he was dealing with a lot.

  • I understand.

  • But that's the fact of the matter.

  • And what you've seen is he takes off.

  • So the Jags have a guy where they have Toa Wonder when the going gets tough.

  • Is he going to take off?

  • Meantime, the Jets got a guy who's a rising star among coordinators, who everyone seems to think they got lucky to get.

  • Who has NFL experience succeeding?

  • We'll see.

  • We'll see.

  • First of all, I want to say this.

  • He's of Lebanese descent.

  • That's my understanding.

  • And they're saying that maybe he's the first Muslim Arab American, obviously, to be an NFL head coach.

  • So from a diversity perspective, we should all be happy and very happy for him.

  • I like the guy personally.

  • Got a defensive background.

  • First year defensively, 25th, second year ranked 28th and they catapulted to eight, went to the Super Bowl.

  • And then last year they fell off a little bit.

  • Because of Kobe.

  • There's no question he deserves the job, and I'm happy for him.

  • I'm just thinking that.

  • What about Sam, Donald, You brought in the defensive guy?

  • Hopefully, that will help Sam Donna, We'll find out.

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