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  • ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY,

  • WE'RE BACK WITH THE FORMER DIRECTOR OF THE F.B.I. AND THE

  • AUTHOR OF "SAVING JUSTICE."

  • JAMES COMEY.

  • IN THE BOOK, YOU ALSO WRITE ABOUT THE CLINTON E-MAIL

  • INVESTIGATION AGAIN.

  • WHY DID YOU WANT TO REVISIT THAT?

  • HAVE YOU CHANGED YOUR THOUGHTS OVER WHETHER YOU DID THE RIGHT

  • THING?

  • >> NO, I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO REVISIT IT.

  • IT'S A NIGHTMARE FROM WHICH I CAN'T AWAKEN, BUT I COULDN'T

  • TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF TRANSPARENCY AND OPERATING IN A

  • WAY WITHOUT POLITICAL INFLUENCE IN INVESTIGATIONS WITHOUT AT

  • LEAST TOUCHING THAT IN A BRIEF WAY AS I DO.

  • I WOULDN'T-- I WOULDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING, EXCEPT I WOULDN'T BE

  • INVOLVED IF I HAD A MAGIC WAND.

  • EVEN IF I COULD TRAVEL BACK IN TIME, I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION

  • BASED ON POLITICS, AS PAINFUL AS THAT IS.

  • AND DONALD TRUMP'S PRESIDENCY HAS BEEN A SOURCE OF ENORMOUS

  • PAIN FOR ALL OF US, INCLUDING ME.

  • >> Stephen: DID YOU WATCH THE SHOTIME SPECIAL WITH JEFF

  • DANIELS AS JIM COMEY?

  • >> I DID.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT DID YOU THINK?

  • WAS THAT-- WAS IT ACCURATE?

  • >> IT WAS ACCURATE.

  • I-- THE ONLY FEEDBACK I GAVE HIM IS HE SHOULD HAVE ACTED TALLER.

  • AND HE SAID, "THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THEY CAN DO."

  • BUT I WAS INTIMIDATED BY-- THAT HE WAS PLAYING ME, AND I

  • ACTUALLY WAS VERY EMOTIONAL WATCHING IT.

  • IT BROUGHT BACK THE PAIN OF THE CLINTON E-MAIL SITUATION MY

  • INTERACTIONS WITH TRUMP.

  • HE CAPTURED THAT PAIN AND THE VALUES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF

  • JUSTICE AND THE F.B.I. IN AN AMAZING WAY.

  • HE'S AN INCREDIBLE TALENT.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT ABOUT BRENDAN GLEASON, RIGHT?

  • BRENDAN GLEASON IS THE ACTOR WHO PLAYED DONALD TRUMP.

  • I HAD NEVER SEEN A DEPICTION OF DONALD TRUMP THAT WASN'T IN ANY

  • WAY COMEDIC.

  • AND I FOUND IT POWERFUL AND CHILLING.

  • WAS THAT ACCURATE TO THE MAN YOU SAW BEHIND CLOSED DOORS?

  • >> YES.

  • I WAS ONLY ON SET ONE DAY, AND IT WAS TO WATCH THEM FILM THE

  • LOYALTY DINNER.

  • SO JUST ME AGAINST TRUMP, AS YOU MENTIONED, SEVEN DAYS AFTER HE

  • TOOK OFFICE.

  • AND WHAT GLEASON CAPTURED IS THE MENACE, THE PRIVATE MENACE OF

  • DONALD TRUMP THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T GET TO SEE.

  • AGAIN, WITHOUT SATIRE, WITHOUT OVERPLAYING THE COMMUNICATED THE

  • MENACE OF THIS LA COSA NOSTRA BOSS THAT IS OUR PRESIDENT.

  • IT WAS SO POWERFUL IT LEFT ME WITH A SICK FEELING IN MY

  • STOMACH.

  • >> Stephen: ON PAGE 188 YOU WRITE, "I TRIED TO LIMIT MY

  • CONTACT WITH THE PRESIDENT, AVOIDING THE 'EYE OF SORREN' AS

  • I EXPLAINED O MY STAFF."

  • IF TRUMP IS SORIN, WHO ARE YOU IN THE SCENARIO.

  • I GUESS TREE BEARD, BUT DO YOU PICTURE YOURSELF AS ANY OF

  • CHARACTER.

  • >> I WAS BORN TO BE ONE OF THANTS AND HOPE TO BLEND INTO

  • THE FOREST LIKE I TRIED TO DO WITH MY BLUE SUIT YOU.

  • >> Stephen: ENDED OUR LAST INTERVIEW, WHICH WAS I THINK 17

  • YEARS AGO-- IF I COUNT THE RINGS IN MY SOUL-- BY SAYING YOU'RE

  • OPTIMISTIC THAT THIS COUNTRY'S VAVALUES ARE STRONG ENOUGH THAT

  • WILL NOT ONLY SURVIVE THIS.

  • WE WILL THRIVE.

  • ARE YOU STILL OPTIMISTIC AS WE FACE THE PRESENT CRISIS?

  • >> I AM.

  • I AM.

  • I THINK IN A WAY THIS WILL SERVE AS THE INFLECTION POINT THAT WE

  • NEEDED SO BADLY.

  • AND YOU SEE IT IN SOME OF THE MOVEMENT IN THE EARLY PUBLIC

  • OPINION SURVEYS.

  • I THINK THE-- THOSE PEOPLE LOST IN THE FOG OF FRAUD, OF LIES,

  • MORE AND MORE OF THEM WILL LEAVE THAT FOG BECAUSE OF EVENTS LIKE

  • THIS AND WANT REST OF US WILL BE AWAKENED TO THIS THING THAT

  • BENJAMIN FRANKLIN WAS RIGHT WHEN HE SAID OUR FOUNDERS GAVE US A

  • REPUBLIC, MADAM, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT.

  • WE HAVE TO KEEP IT, AND THIS IS THE MOMENT TO REMIND OURSELVES

  • OF THAT.

  • >> Stephen: FINAL QUESTION, IN OCTOBER OF 2019, YOU TOLD "THE

  • NEW YORK TIMES" "I HAVE A FANTASY ABOUT JANUARY 21, 2021,

  • DELETING MY TWITTER AND MOVING ON TO SOMETHING ELSE."

  • WE ARE NOW NINE, EIGHT-- HOW MANY DAYS?

  • EIGHT DAYS AWAY.

  • DO YOU STILL FEEL LIKE THAT?

  • >> I DO, BUT I FEEL LIKE ONE OF THOSE MOVIE WHERE'S THAT DATE IS

  • MOVING AWAY FROM ME.

  • IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY LONG EIGHT DAYS FOR ALL OF US.

  • BUT WHEN THAT DAY COMES, THE 21st COMES, I LOOK FORWARD

  • TO MOVING ON TO SOMETHING ELSE.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT-- WHAT'S NEXT?

  • WHAT ELSE ARE YOU PLANNING?

  • MORE BOOKS?

  • >> I'M DONE WRITING BOOKS ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT.

  • I'M TELL YOU THAT.

  • I'M GOING TO TEACH.

  • I SIGNED UP TO TEACH AT COLUMBIA.

  • SO I'LL BE TEACHING LAW STUDENTS AND BUSINESS STUDENTS AND OTHER

  • STUDENTS WHICH IS SOMETHING I'VE ALWAYS LOVED.

  • AND THEN I'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT I WANT TO DO BEYOND THAT.

  • >> Stephen: DIRECTOR, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

  • HIS BOOK "SAVING JUSTICE: TRUTH, TRANSPARENCY, AND TRUST" IS

  • AVAILABLE NOW.

  • JAMES COMEY, EVERYBODY.

  • WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH THE STAR OF "RIVERDALE," LILI

  • REINHART.

  • ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY,

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