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  • Who do you think deserves to win the MVP race?

  • Well, I mean, I think all three of the guys you put up there deserve to win it.

  • Um, I think, obviously Rogers and Mahomes probably deserve it a little bit mawr than Josh Allen, but I think Roger's gonna get it for one reason.

  • Because of what Ryan said and on, Get up, we just gotta get up.

  • And Ryan said that he has the story behind him.

  • Not only is he playing well, but he has this great story behind him.

  • But I wanna to take it the other direction, actually, because I I want to see if I can convince you that Josh Allen deserves to be the M V P.

  • Because I think we all accept that there is a good argument.

  • Homes are the best quarterbacks.

  • I'm gonna try to do my best because we both agree that if you could pick one quarterback, it'll be passing my homes.

  • And we both probably agree that right now.

  • Aaron Rodgers is playing well at the right time.

  • But Josh Allen, his only loss in the last nine games, was off that Arizona held Mary, and he's been killing us for a stats are concerned.

  • The only problem is those other guys have been killing Tua's faras status concerned and his stats are better than them.

  • But the argument for Josh Allen being M v p is he's demonstrated his value by the fact that his first two years he had, like a 49 Q b R, which is below league average in that team, was 15 games and won 10 games.

  • That team is a juggernaut now because his history we are is in the eighties like he has demonstrated his value because he changed the fortunes of that team.

  • You could argue that maybe we'll Stefon Diggs.

  • Maybe Stefon Diggs deserves to be in this conversation because he's changed that offense.

  • But I think what Josh Allen has done in that organization, and he's proved he's proven a lot of us wrong because I thought Josh Allen wasn't gonna be a good pro and I was right for the first two years.

  • And then he made this miraculously leap in year three toe playing like an elite quarterback weekend and week out.

  • I didn't see that happening, so to your point about it, being, um, about the story about the league's protagonists, if you wanna put it in that type of terms.

  • He kind of the story that he's had this season.

  • I think it's more impressive, and maybe it puts him in line for most improved or something like that.

  • But it's more impressive.

  • His story, I think, is more impressive than Patrick Mahomes in Aaron Rodgers.

  • See, like the one thing I thought when we had Charlie on this show, who is awesome?

  • Great person down on this show, who's awesome?

  • A great person was that we do the show differently than Max and Stephen A.

  • Right, like Like they come on here and they talk about each other.

  • Stephen A.

  • Calls Max, Corny and Max drop some rap reference that even Stephen A doesn't know to show people that he's actually less corny than Stephen A.

  • But I thought we were gonna come on the show and do this show together right now.

  • I just I just got in the good graces of bills Mafia, right Monday night, they steaks, They accepted me.

  • They welcomed me and they sent me this application to get on the Josh Allen bandwagon.

  • I filled it out.

  • I sent my application in, and I believe by the end of this week, I'll have my answer.

  • But now you're gonna make me say things against this guy.

  • But I don't want to.

  • I agree with you.

  • Josh Allen has made a tremendous ascension.

  • Also agree with you.

  • And I was in the same part.

  • I don't think he was gonna be a bad quarterback, but I never saw him being this.

  • And now you see all of this improvement.

  • You see how good this team is?

  • You have to say, Okay, there's a dude on that team with 120 catches, right?

  • There's a There's a dude on that team that helps you against man to man, which you were bad against coming into this season because that dude gets a whole lot of separation and that Stefon Diggs and now Josh Allen should not be in any way hindered or counted as a negative against him because he has Stefon Diggs.

  • Because that's what smart teams do, right?

  • The Kansas City Chiefs gave Patrick Mahomes Tyree kill Travis Kelsey McColl Hartman uh, Clyde Edwards Hilaire, Levian Bell.

  • They built the team around him to make him good.

  • So you don't you don't necessarily say that's why Josh Allen can't win it.

  • But Josh Allen's third this year, right?

  • Because you also have to remember in the last game that they lost, which was the hell.

  • Murray Josh Allen, also through two second half interceptions and the reason they were ever losing and he had to come back and have that great late UH, late two minute drive was because he threw two interceptions and he allowed the Arizona Cardinals to stay in the game.

  • You look at Patrick Mahomes.

  • He's probably fallen behind Aaron Rodgers because of the Miami game because of the game against Atlanta and Aaron Rodgers continues to go.

  • And then when you talk about stories, maybe something Charlie knows a little bit about, you know, this kind of like the Roman reigns story against the rock, right?

  • Everybody who loves wrestling.

  • Now we're like Roman reigns.

  • But if the rock but the rock come back, we don't all be like, Oh, yeah, all the rock is back.

  • He got more muscles now.

  • He got less hair.

  • He don't wear a fanny pack, but the rock is back, right And when he asked us if we smell what he's cooking, you gonna smell it?

  • You see what I'm saying?

  • And that's what Aaron Rodgers is right now.

  • Aaron Rodgers has conjured up some of that 2010, 2000 and 11 stuff, bro.

  • And the numbers read it.

  • And with numbers reading it and after the narrative, we set of them not having a possibility to contend because they have no receivers.

  • And you come do this.

  • And Davante Adams do what he's doing.

  • Oh, man, you got to give it to a rock.

  • Got to Yeah.

  • I mean, the rod is my question donkey this season.

  • Oh, sorry.

  • Go ahead.

  • No, I wanna hear what he's cooking.

  • I wanna hear about this funky.

  • Did I know?

  • I'm just a Rod is cooking something funky this season, and he definitely is deserving of it.

  • And I'm not going to come at you with a bunch of stats because I tried my best to find some stats that made Josh Allen better than those guys.

  • And and every every way I sliced him.

  • He came up short but told me that you are getting like, Oh, boy, I didn't I should have.

  • But the argument that you are saying, like you were pointing out that they have great receipt or that he has great receivers like that.

  • They don't have those same benefits in, uh, in Green Bay and in Kansas City.

  • Like Adams, if you're gonna say anybody is better than like Adam better, the old line is great.

  • I know.

  • I know.

  • You said it.

  • I'm just saying that you can't pretend like that is a strike against him in your point about that.

  • Stephen.

  • Amy.

  • I know.

  • Okay?

  • Stephen.

  • Amy, my man.

  • Stephen.

  • Amy E hit me because Stephen A I always talk about it.

  • I watch you on SportsCenter.

  • Stop that.

  • Stop it!

  • My back!

  • Let me return.

  • Which?

  • Which of your two picks?

  • Which of your two Rogers, Josh Allen.

  • Do you see?

  • More Likely disrupting the chiefs in their path to repeating a Super Bowl champs.

  • John, you can start your That's a good question.

  • Nice job there.

  • That's another one that's gonna make me make one of these faces.

  • I think that Aaron Rodgers, I think, Yeah, I feel like I I see the chiefs getting to the Super Bowl, and if they lose, it's gonna be there.

  • I have a hard time imagining them knocking, uh, getting knocked off before the Super Bowl by Josh Allen in the Bills Thanks for watching ESPN on YouTube for live streaming sports and premium content.

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Who do you think deserves to win the MVP race?

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