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  • would you say This season is a bus for Brady and the bus is They don't reach the Super Bowl.

  • Yeah, kinda is.

  • And you know, and I know I know we're gonna look at these situations and say, You know, it's his first season in Tampa Bay was a team that didn't even make the playoffs, and now they've at least turned into a playoff team.

  • So, like nobody cares about that.

  • Listen, and I said it earlier on this week, I was asking about a successful football season.

  • I played 13 years in the NFL.

  • I had one successful football season.

  • That's the football season that we ended being the last team with the wind.

  • That was it.

  • That's the years that count the Super Bowl years.

  • And when you're Tom Brady and you've been to the Super Bowl nine times and you've won six of them, that's the expectation.

  • That's the expectation you start every year with.

  • That's the expectations he brought with him to Tampa Bay.

  • And so when you all do those things, you ain't win, you failed.

  • And yes, they are better.

  • And yes, the stats look good.

  • But didn't we expect that we expected some of the explosion we saw with Jamis.

  • Winston, you're gonna see that in the 35 plus touch dollars.

  • You're going to see that.

  • You know, he changed the perception.

  • Or he changed the way that they turned the ball over, which we expected he'll finish with 10 or 11 interceptions, like that's who Tom Brady is.

  • But isn't it about winning, Isn't it about elevating this team and making this team not only a playoff contender, but a championship team?

  • And if they don't get their if they don't have that opportunity at the end of the year, if they're not playing in their home stadium this season is a failure.

  • Can't cut it any other way.

  • It's Super Bowl or bust for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and they And if they don't do it, they were lost.

  • We were agreeing, and we're on the same page.

  • But I couldn't hear anything you said after you said if you ain't win a Super Bowl, your season was a failure, so I just I just had a whole career, many years e failure.

  • I ain't got no trophy, huh?

  • I got no trophy, so I just I just Ah, professional failure.

  • Hey, man, you had a bigger personal anyway, Tom.

  • Tom Brady is a different circumstance for Tom Brady.

  • The situation.

  • I think that you can have a season that is successful.

  • Maybe if your season leads to a free agent contract, that's a successful season.

  • Maybe if your season builds into, ah, a successful team that then later on wins the Super Bowl after you retire.

  • Maybe that was a successful season.

  • Maybe these things happen, and you could have successful seasons for other players, But not for Tom Brady.

  • Tom Brady had went down to Tampa Bay to accomplish one thing I would think toe Winterson.

  • That's why he got all these players.

  • That's why Grant came back.

  • That's why Bruce Arians was was willing to accommodate Antonio Brown.

  • Like that is why all this is happening because Tom Brady wants toe win a Super Bowl.

  • I think that he probably entered this season with two goals, one to demonstrate that he could do it without Bill Belichick.

  • I guess you could argue that he has demonstrated that that he could succeed without, um, Bill Belichick.

  • He's done that, but I think that if he doesn't win a Super Bowl or at least go to the Super Bowl.

  • We're gonna he's gonna walk away from this.

  • That team is gonna walk away from this and think it's a failed experiment.

  • You don't put together a super team.

  • You could go to basketball to the Clippers or the Lakers or any team that you have.

  • You don't put together a super team like that expecting to get close.

  • I agree, but I feel like we're being so damn hard on this team.

  • And Tom, you know, Tom is almost like a victim of his own success.

  • In a way, it's like the man has so many Super Bowls.

  • And if he doesn't win another ones like, Uh, well, that was a wasted season.

  • It's like, Come on now.

  • Like he went to Tampa like whole new situation, right?

  • And I was one of those people that got really hype Riel hype like Okay, Tampa's gonna win it all and then talking to those coaches early in the season, it's like, you know, we're putting pieces together that haven't been together after an offseason where we weren't together, no preseason games.

  • All this stuff like Brady was a model of consistency in New England, inquired Tom Brady.

  • We all said This team is the championship contender, period.

  • It wasn't on old.

  • We had Cove it.

  • It wasn't on old.

  • We're trying to piece something together.

  • None of these excuses that started to come once they started playing football and we realized, Oh, hell, this might not happen, right?

  • Everybody said from the beginning it was going to take some time to jail.

  • So nobody.

  • I didn't expect them to beat the New Orleans Saints early on in the season.

  • But what you didn't expect is that they would continue to sin.

  • And then Tom Brady, the greatest of all time, would be right there in the thick of things which they and this would be a Super Bowl team.

  • This would be the first team.

  • This would be the first team to play at the crib at the sort of Super Bowl.

  • And if it don't happen, it's a failure.

  • Kimberly, don't be so nice.

  • You could say they fail.

  • It's all right.

  • This is the first time I call Nice on this show.

  • Okay, Alright.

  • A failure.

  • A break, his shoulders.

  • You.

  • Can you?

  • It's not for Tom Brady is for that team.

  • But I do think that Tom Brady came there.

  • He is the centerpiece.

  • He's the quarterback.

  • He is the reason why we think that they went from Jamis Winston to him.

  • That's the reason why we think that they are a championship team.

  • So, yeah, it's gonna land on him, and he's.

  • I'm sure he's comfortable with that.

  • So I think that we all see it this way.

  • I don't know how Kimberly ended up where she does, but I imagine that the same thing is true in that building.

  • If you hook them all up the Polygraphs, I'm pretty sure all of them would acknowledge that as soon as they signed Tom Brady.

  • You when Leonard for that sign to go down there when a bee came out of not retirement, when a B a B signed with them when Grant came out of retirement, they all came there because they was planning on winning a Super Bowl expecting toe win.

  • Ah, Super Bowl.

  • That's why they let James go.

  • That's what they were doing, none of them and none of us.

  • Hey, you.

  • This is anything else but a disappointed e building like you're building block.

  • Yeah, this is This is not like a rookie quarterback, and you're going a man.

  • We got to the division playoffs this year.

  • Wait till next year when Tom's 24.

  • You know, I'm saying, Wait till hiss.

  • Second year in the league, like dudes 43 right?

  • You didn't bring Tom here so you could have on your resume.

  • Went to the divisional round this year.

  • The next year he went to the A F C championship.

  • And look, we finally got to the Super Bowl.

  • No, Tom Brady is a win now.

  • Peace.

  • He's not a building block.

  • He's the whole dang house.

  • And if they don't do that right, if Tom Brady plays there two years and they don't win the Super Bowl, this was a failure because guess what happens into Europe.

  • Tom Place to use 50?

  • I don't know.

  • But if Tom has done that that this two year span, right, it's over and you're wasted because you don't have a building block.

  • You got to find a new quarterback.

  • It's not like you built the program around him.

  • You're starting all over.

  • This is a championship or nothing.

  • Moved.

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