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All right, first things first.

What did you make of the four?

Well, I mean, it's interesting.

You can't I don't think any systems ever gonna be perfect and you got 13 people in a room.

It's just funny.

We were doing the show yesterday with me.

You know, Jesse and Kirk and Reese and, um, Joey Galloway and we got all of us.

Sitting around the table in our opinions might differ a little bit from each other and who we think is the best team.

So I think I think it's a tough task.

He's everybody thinks when you have that many people making a decision.

I'm fine with it.

If you're gonna compare Notre Dame in Texas A and M Um, you know, the biggest difference to me was, you know, you've got North Carolina on the resume.

Um, and you have Clemson when you look at A and M and M second best winners Auburn there, their first best one, obviously, is a good win against Florida.

So I think that they went with, you know, they played 11 games.

Notre Dame.

They went 10, and once they played more games, had more quality wins.

And you know that justification by them again.

They're using their rankings, obviously, to decide how high North Carolina's right, how high Clemson's range.

But I don't have a big discrepancy with them was in by the way.

I wouldn't if you thought it was better.

I wouldn't disagree.

Necessarily disagree.

I think Notre Dame and A and M are very comparable teams.

If you put him side by side and go down the list, I think they compared to each other very favorable for a lot of weight.

David, looking at the playoff field, I know that Notre Dame beat Clemson earlier in the regular season without Trevor Lawrence, but Clemson got some get back yesterday, but it feels like Alabama and Clemson on a different level than Ohio State in Notre Dame.

Do you see it that way?

Yeah, and it's been like that, Chris for like, 20 years, bro.

I mean, it's like it's Groundhog Day every year, and I'm reminded of that every championship weekend and and I do want to expand, and I have my own philosophy of what I wanna do and how I want to expand.

But I just In the end, you might get the same result.

You still might get Alabama and Clemson, but I think you get so many more people involved in the engaged in in the playoff system and less opt outs and mawr give a dang as opposed to some of the kids down the stretch that don't really care, because they're not necessarily playing for a championship.

But Alabama Clemson.

Listen, look at the recruiting right.

He's every year.

They're always near the top.

Look at the the quarterback position.

They always coach that exceptionally well and have great guys at that spot and great dudes, all of the field that they coach up Didn't make great.

So comes in Alabama again.

Here we go.

It does feel like that around 36.

What's your plan?

You said you might have an alternative here.

I'd love to hear it.

I would love to go.

First of all, I take all the divisions got out of college football.

I don't need West.

I don't need east.

I don't need leaders.

I don't need legends.

I don't need any of that stuff.

I want.

I want just the SEC.

The big 10.

Um, you play an eight game schedule against you know, the other people in your conference.

You play four out of conference games, one against the A C C.

One against the big 12, 1 against the SEC, one against the fact 12 1 against the Big 10.

Like you play against every other conference.

So now every team has conference overlap.

Every team played another conference.

We have, ah, better diagnosis of who's who's good from each conference.

Which conference truly is, You know, the best as opposed, uh, you know, kind of guessing.

Especially this year when we had no out of conference games.

And now you give the league championship champions they get, they get, they get the automatic bids and I expanded to eight.

And so now we have eight teams in the field.

All five conference championships, all five kinds of champions, Aaron, for the major power fives.

And now you take three at large teams.

However, you want to slice it up.

And however you think they are best if I'm not, if I'm not in the power five, I start my own playoff like I'm not invited.

Dude, like this is This is not exclusive.

This is exclusive to me.

Like it Z excluding me.

I'm not in this.

So if I was them, I'd go create my own.

I think it would be absolutely amazing.

Toe watch, like still scheduled some of the other games.

But have your have your own playoff at the end of the season.

It would be amazing.

Everybody would watch it.

I know I would.

So you don't think that the Group five conferences should have an opportunity to compete against the big boys and your format or the the uh, I think good.

Okay, But what we have right now, Chris, is not that it's bullcrap.

They're not going to get invited.

There's no way no how like, Okay, let me draw roadmap Cincinnati.

Okay for them to get into college football playoff next year.

First thing we're gonna have to do is beat Georgia in the bowl game, go out on a high note, right, Go out.

Showing you like this team was legit.

They could compete with a top 10 team in college football.

They're gonna have to schedule two big dogs next year and have to beat them.

Not not 23 not 25.

They're gonna have to schedule a least one team, you know, from another power five, that is gonna be a top 10 type.

It's incredibly respected.

And then beat another well respected team and run the table in your conference.

Well, they're also in a lot of teams in the power five, that one of schedule since that anymore.

I mean, that's just they don't want to do that because they know they're really good football team.

So I just think and they have to run the table on be perfect.

So it's not a good foot formulas for them.

David.

A reports surfaced about Northwestern head coach Pat Fitzgerald over the weekend that if the right NFL team came calling that he would be interested in taking the jump to the next level.

Your thoughts on what Pat Fitzgerald would be as an NFL head coach.

I think he'd be great because he's great with people.

He said.

The great standard every day he's he doesn't take mess off of anybody.

Um, you know, I think the best coaches in the world, you know, they put the right lane of the highway, the left lane on the highway, and they show you actually the road map of how it is.

Like I'm gonna come in every day and I'm gonna be between these lines because I know if I don't do is gonna kill me like I'm gonna lose respect.

I'm not gonna play like there's ramifications.

So I think he's so good with people.

I think it would be a good decision.

I would love to see him do it.

Listen, it's great to see him in his all the moderate North question.

He's done some great things.

Um, that's a tough job, man.

I mean, it's tough toe, you know, it's a tough school to get into it.

he's not dealing with, you know, elite caliber athlete.

But I also don't see him going to a major power five job because it's kind of spurning is all the model.

So I think this is gonna set up nice to practice Gerald.

I hope he hoped he takes a job.

I think he would be really good at it.

And on that tip, talking about the potential transition from college football to the NFL, it's a possibility for Pat Fitzgerald.

It's obviously going to be 100% in the can for Trevor Lawrence to make that move.

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