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  • Max.

  • I think it's time that there it is again.

  • It's time that Max responds.

  • Well, I think that's Ah, men she thing for Dan Orlovsky to Dio.

  • And obviously he has a very talented daughter and all I'll say is I'm with you on Peterson.

  • Stephen A.

  • Has got to get in here.

  • But I'm with you on Peterson.

  • The defense played their guts out.

  • When you go for it on 4th and 14 with 8 40 to go down 11, you're saying I'm washing my hands of this whole thing.

  • You're trying to get out of there and that was awful and he didn't use the run game at all.

  • But I'll say this.

  • Then when he had a clean pocket, he had a first down on the 50 yard line.

  • He steps into it, has a linebacker on Goddard.

  • And, like just how you said, hey whence did something good, he should have completed a pass.

  • The receiver dropped it.

  • Bad outcome from a good play.

  • He got a good outcome from a bad play, right?

  • He winds up with a P.

  • I call because because the linebacker is like trying to catch up to God her and the ball was so under thrown.

  • He winds up smacking into Ghadir and gets a P I call.

  • But like, how do you have a clean pocket?

  • You step up and you under throw your wide open, tight tight end by the mismatch by that much, he does that Aled the time.

  • So I think I think Peterson wants out when should be gone.

  • And Roseman, too.

  • Guys, things are not that complicated.

  • Fact of the matter is, Carson Wentz is having a very, very bad year.

  • He looks absolutely awful, but he's only 28 we saw greatness in him before.

  • It is rare that you see greatness, and it evaporates so quickly at such a such a young age, and that's it.

  • Now there's one thing when you were great, but then you get old, and as a result, age and attrition, coupled with your diminish, deficient and efficient skills, take fold altogether.

  • It's another thing entirely.

  • When you're young and you just regress and you slide and you're having an absolutely awful year, you can resurrect yourself.

  • I will remind you that there was a guy by the name of Nick Foles, who was 11 and two, if I remember correctly as a starter under Chip Kelly, disappeared for years because he was contaminated by Jeff Fisher.

  • Look absolutely, positively awful.

  • So much so that he actually contemplated retirement but then was asked to come and be a backup in Philadelphia and ended up taking over after Carson Wentz got hurt and won the Super Bowl.

  • And as a result, in next year, Carson Wentz gets hurt again with five or the five and six record.

  • Nick Foles comes in, saves the day, gets them to the postseason and delivers a win against the top seeded Chicago Bears in the Windy City before losing to New Orleans in the divisional playoff game.

  • That Nick Foles all of a sudden ends up getting a huge contract from Jacksonville when he goes to Chicago.

  • We were all applauding it.

  • We were saying if they got the offensive line together, he would look great.

  • There have been a bevy of instances throughout NFL history where there's been a quarterback who wasn't finished, was still relatively young, had exhibited greatness in the past, but they had fallen off and ultimately was able to correct themselves.

  • Carson Wentz is 28.

  • So I'm not giving up on him.

  • I'm looking at Peterson, and it's not because of Peterson's inability to coach.

  • It's because it appears he does not want to coach Carson Wentz.

  • That was not his guy.

  • That was not his choice.

  • That's not the guy that he believes listens to what he wants done, how it wants done and that marriage is the problem.

  • Even though we could point to Howie Roseman drafting Jalen hurts, I reiterate what I said earlier.

  • This is the same Howie Roseman that took over after Chip Kelly was unceremoniously exiled and Harry Reid.

  • Howie Roseman takes over and he helps God the Philadelphia Eagles to a Super Bowl.

  • We don't look at them and say they have no talent on defense.

  • They have no talent on offense.

  • They don't have running backs, they don't have tight ends.

  • They don't have a couple of wide receivers.

  • We don't look at that.

  • We look at health and we look at the fact that Carson, Wentz and Peterson are not aligned with one another.

  • That is what has to be addressed.

  • Yeah, let me let me hit on this to Stephen, and I think you make a lot of good points.

  • I think the last two I would make is this.

  • I think the point of greatness doesn't just go away like that is a valid one.

  • I think we've seen Carson Wentz in two settings for the Eagles.

  • We've seen him with a relatively talented team in 2017.

  • He was one of the best quarterbacks in football in his last three years.

  • That roster has slowly depleted, and last year what happened?

  • It's important for everyone to understand, like last year.

  • What happened with that football team and the decimation of injuries is not normal.

  • The way that Doug Peterson and Carson Wentz carried that football to the playoff football team to the playoffs is not normal, and they're going through the same type of injury this year.

  • We can't expect it to happen for the second straight year, and so I would caution everybody.

  • Everyone thinks I'm this Carson Wentz apologist.

  • What do you guys want me to do?

  • You want me to come on television as ESPN pays me to do a job?

  • Just go.

  • Hey, this guy stinks.

  • No, Like my job is to continue to be.

  • Why three years ago.

  • Everyone says Ryan Tannehill stinks.

  • He's a top 10 quarterback.

  • Ah, couple years ago, everyone said before they got Tamari Cooper.

  • Dak Prescott stinks.

  • I think that's invalid.

  • So just be very careful.

  • Listen, great movies aren't made just because they're great movies.

  • Shawshank Redemption is an awesome movie because it had a great rider, great director, awesome actors, an incredible setting.

  • It takes everybody Carson Wentz with a rebuilt roster and a coaching staff that instills his confidence back.

  • Mark.

  • My words will be performing like a top 10 quarterback again quickly.

  • It's not just the confidence, Dan.

  • Everything is messed up.

  • And the key was when he said, This is the way we do it around.

  • He still doesn't believe that he's doing the get really needs to be removed.

  • Some round can rebuild it because, yes, he needs to be rebuilt.

  • That, by the way, he doesn't move the way he used to to my eyes.

  • But he's tough, his nails and he has great talent, but he everything is wrong and there's no Peterson's ain't gonna fix this.

  • I don't know if the Eagles were gonna fix this.

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Max.

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    林宜悉 posted on 2020/12/05
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