WE'RE BACK WITH THE AUTHOR OF "LONG TIME COMING: RECKONING

WITH RACE IN AMERICA," MICHAEL ERIC DYSON.

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO SAY BASICALLY

AMERICA IS ON A DEMOGRAPHIC TRAJECTORY TO CHANGE OUR

ATTITUDES ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS, RACE BEING ONE OF THEM, THAT

BASICALLY, THE NEXT GENERATION WILL REPLACE THE PRESENT

GENERATION THAT WILL NOT ACCEPT THE CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE

MADE?

>> YEAH, THE ONLY PROBLEM I HAVE WITH THAT IS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK

AT THE TIKI TORCH BEARERS, THEY WERE YOUNG, WELL COIFFED, HAD

NICE HAIR DOS, BUT THEY WERE PROMOTING NEOFASCISM AND

NEO-NAZIISM.

IN OTHER WORDS, JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE YOUNGER DOESN'T MEAN

YOU'RE MORE ENLIGHTENED.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A REAL INTENTION TO CHANGE THE WORLD AS

WE SEE IT.

A PEW REPORT STUDY SAID THAT EXCEPT FOR INTERRACIAL MARRIAGE,

MILLENNIALS THINK THE SAME THING ABOUT RACE AS THE BOOMERS DID.

SO STOP WITH THE "OKAY BOOMER," STUFF, BECAUSE YOU THINK THE

SAME THINGS THAT THEY DID.

AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, BESIDES INTERRACIAL

RELATIONSHIPS, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH ON THE SAME PAGE.

THAT MEANS WE'VE GOT REAL WORK TO DO, AND JUST BEING YOUNG

AIN'T ENOUGH.

>> Stephen: THE BOOK ENDS WITH A PLEA FOR HOPE.

HOW DO YOU STAY HOPEFUL?

WHAT GIVES YOU HOPE RIGHT NOW?

WELL, YOU KNOW, LOOK, BESIDES WATCHING YOUR SHOW AND SEEING

YOU DIRECTLY THE MOST EDIFYING VENOM AGAINST THE MOST VICIOUS

PRESIDENCY WE'VINE SEEN, I DIG INTO MY FAITH.

AND I SAY, LOOK, HOWARD THURMAN, ONE OF THE GREAT MISTACS IN MY

TRADITION, SAID YOU CAN'T REDUCE YOUR DREAMS TO THE EVENT YOU'RE

CONFRONTING RIGHT NOW.

THE THING YOU'RE CONFRONTING RIGHT NOW MAY LOOK LIKE A HUGE

OBSTACLE.

BUT OUR SLAVE FORPARENTS ENVUGZED THE WORLD.

YOU CAN BE A PRISONER OF EVENT OR A PRISONER OF HOPE.

I CHOOSE TO BE A PRISONER OF HOPE.

NO MATTER HOW DARK IT GETS, IT CAN BE BRIGHTER.

NO MATTER HOW HORRIBLE THINGS LOOK, THEY CAN BE MADE BETTER.

AND NO MATTER HOW WE HAVE GIVEN IN TO THE WORST ANGELS OF OUR

SOULS, WE CAN APPEAL TO THE BETTER ANGELS OF OUR NATURE.

>> Stephen: WELL, CAN THE TIME IS AVAILABLE NOW.

MICHAEL ERIC DYSON, EVERYBODY.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

MICHAEL, THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.