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  • >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY.

  • YOU KNOW HIM FROM HIS NETFLIX DEAL, BUT I KNOW HIM AS THE

  • 44th PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, BARACK OBAMA.

  • ALL RIGHT, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW BOOK.

  • >> YES, THANK YOU.

  • >> Stephen: BY THE WAY.

  • IT IS-- I'M SORRY.

  • THIS IS-- I JUST CARRY IT WITH ME EVERYWHERE I GO.

  • HAVE YOU READ THIS?

  • BECAUSE THIS IS A GOOD BOOK.

  • >> IT'S A GREAT BOOK.

  • >> Stephen: 10 MILLION COPIES.

  • >> YES.

  • >> Stephen: HARD TO BEAT.

  • THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY HARD TO BEAT.

  • YOU'RE NOT A COMPETITIVE GUY.

  • >> I'VE ALREADY WAVED THE WHITE FLAG.

  • >> Stephen: OKAY, GOOD.

  • >> COME ON, MAN.

  • >> Stephen: I DO WANT TO POINT OUT--

  • >> ANY ILLUSION THAT I MIGHT CATCH UP, IT TURNS OUT THAT NOW

  • THAT MY BOOK IS SELLING.

  • >> Stephen: YES.

  • >> THEY ALL PACKAGE IT WITH HER BOOK SO SHE KEEPS ON SELLING

  • MORE, SO I CAN'T-- IT'S-- IT'S HOPELESS.

  • >> Stephen: BY THE WAY, I AM ENJOYING --

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • >> Stephen: "A PROMISED LAND."

  • ORIGINALLY YOU THOUGHT IT WOULD BE DONE IN ABOUT TWO YEARS, I

  • THINK.

  • AND ABOUT 500 PAGES.

  • IT'S FOUR YEARS.

  • IT'S 758 PAGES.

  • AND IT'S ONLY VOLUME ONE.

  • >> YEAH.

  • >> Stephen: OKAY, WHO WILL BE FINISHED FIRST, YOU OR GEORGE

  • R.R. MARTIN?

  • >> FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW THE REFERENCE, "GAME UPON

  • THRONS."

  • >> Stephen: EVERYONE KNOWS THE REFERENCE.

  • >> DO THEY.

  • >> Stephen: MORE PEOPLE FROM READ HIS BOOKS.

  • I'M SORRY.

  • VERY POPULAR.

  • >> THE DIFFERENCE IS BY THE TIME THERE'S A TV SHOW ABOUT THIS, I

  • WILL HAVE FINISHED.

  • >> Stephen: IN THE BOOK YOU ACTUALLY INVESTIGATED THE IDEA,

  • EXPLORED THE IDEA OF RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, EVEN TALKED TO SOME

  • PEOPLE ABOUT IT, BEFORE YOU MENTIONED IT TO YOUR WIFE.

  • FIRST QUESTION: WHAT?

  • AND FOLLOW-UP: WOW.

  • AND THEN YOU SAY, "WHAT DO YOU THINK OF IT?

  • IF YOU SAY NO, IT'S NO."

  • AND SHE SAYS NO.

  • AND THEN YOU KEEP GOING.

  • ( LAUGHING ) YOU SHOULD WRITE A BOOK ABOUT

  • HOW TO GET AWAY WITH THAT.

  • THAT'S A BESTSALER.

  • HOW DID YOU GET AWAY WITH THAT?

  • AND WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?

  • >> CLEARLY, I WAS NOT THINKING.

  • WELL, AS I DESCRIBE, THE WAY THAT THE CONVERSATION AROUND ME

  • RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT HAPPENS-- AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT

  • OF FOLKS WHO THINK, 'AH, THIS IS ALL NONSENSE, HE'S NOT PLAYING

  • IT STRAIGHT.

  • ' BUT THE FRIEND OF MINE AND STAFF WILL CONFIRM THIS-- WE

  • WERE FIRM ABOUT ME NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT BECAUSE I HAD JUST

  • BEEN ELECTED TO THE U.S. SENATE.

  • AND THE NOTION THAT I WAS SOMEHOW GOING TO MAKE THIS LEAP

  • TWO YEARS LATER INTO LAUNCHING A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN DID NOT

  • MAKE SENSE.

  • BUT PARTLY BECAUSE I WAS, YOU KNOW, THE NEW SHINY OBJECT, AND,

  • YOU KNOW, THE PRESS WAS SORT OF FASCINATED, INTRIGUED WITH ME AS

  • THE ONLY AFRICAN AMERICAN IN THE SENATE.

  • I HAD GIVEN THE SPEECH AT THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION.

  • YOU GET THIS CHATTER.

  • AND I KEEP ON GETTING ASKED ABOUT IT, AND WE'RE REBUFFING

  • IT, ET CETERA.

  • BUT IT STARTS TAKING ON A LIFE OF ITS OWN, AND THERE COMES A

  • POINT AT WHICH I START HAVING SERIOUS CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW,

  • WITH HARRY REID AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE SERIOUS LEADERS OF THE

  • PARTY SAYING, "YOU REALLY SHOULD THINK ABOUT IT."

  • AND IT IS AT THAT POINT THAT I DO GO TO TALK TO MICHELLE ABOUT

  • IT.

  • AND SHE DOES-- HER INITIAL RESPONSE IS NO.

  • BUT WHAT I SAID TO HER AS WE STILL NEED TO THINK THROUGH ALL

  • THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF IT.

  • AND IF AT THE END OF THAT, YOU STILL SAY NO, THEN IT'S NO.

  • AND SHE SORT OF CHANGED HER MIND, KIND OF.

  • >> Stephen: I'VE READ IT.

  • SHE DOES.

  • >> BUT WHAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE IS-- AND I'VE NEVER FULLY GOTTEN

  • OUT OF THE DOG HOUSE FOR THIS-- IS THAT I PUT HER AND OUR KIDS

  • THROUGH AN EXTRAORDINARILY STRESSFUL, DIFFICULT SEQUENCE IN

  • DECIDING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT RIGHT AFTER I HAD JUST GONE

  • THROUGH A TOUGH RACE.

  • AND, YOU KNOW, MICHELLE STAYED ANGRY AT ME ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW.

  • IT WOULD FLARE UP EVERY SO OFTEN, BUT SHE STAYED MAD ABOUT

  • IT THROUGH ALL EIGHT YEARS.

  • AND THERE WAS A LITTLE CARRYOVER OF THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF TAIL

  • AFTER THAT, AND I THINK WE'VE-- YOU KNOW, SHE FINALLY SORT OF

  • FORGAVE ME UNTIL THIS INTERVIEW IN WHICH CASE I THINK IT'S

  • BROUGHT UP ALL THESE BAD MEMORIES.

  • >> Stephen: YOU'RE WELCOME.

  • >> AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M GOING TO BE FACING WHEN I

  • GET HOME.

  • >> Stephen: YOU WRITE THIS IN THE BOOK, "THIS IS, I WAS COMING

  • TO REALIZE, WAS THE NATURE OF THE PRESIDENCY.

  • SOMETIMES YOUR MOST IMPORTANT WORK INVOLVED THE STUFF NOBODY

  • NOTICED."

  • WHAT'S SOMETHING NOBODY STILL HASN'T NOTICED THAT YOU GUYS

  • DID?

  • I'M SORRY, I HAD TO SPEED IT UP RAY LITTLE BIT THERE.

  • WE ONLY HAVE AN HOUR.

  • GO AHEAD.

  • >> BY THE WAY, IF THAT WAS AN IMITATION OF ME, THAT WAS

  • TERRIBLE.

  • >> Stephen: I PLAY YOUR BOOK BACK RIGHT NOW AND SHOW YOU

  • THAT'S HOW SLOWLY YOU READ YOUR BOOK, SIR.

  • >> IT MIGHT BE THAT SLOW, BUT IT SOUNDS SO MUCH BETTER WHEN I DO

  • IT.

  • ANYWAY -- >> Stephen: I'LL GRANT YOU

  • THAT.

  • >> WE'LL MOVE ON.

  • >> Stephen: I'LL GRANT YOU THAT.

  • >> HERE'S A GOOD ONE.

  • APPLIANCES.

  • YOU DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THIS MUCH.

  • >> Stephen: I DID NOT.

  • >> OVER THE COURSE OF MY PRESIDENCY, BECAUSE OF NEW RULES

  • FOR ENERGY-EFFICIENT APPLIANCES, TAKING MILLIONS OF METRIC TONS

  • OF GREENHOUSE GASES OUT OF THE ATMOSPHERE, THE EQUIVALENT OF

  • TAKING 20 MILLION AUTOMOBILES OFF THE ROAD ANNUALLY, BECAUSE,

  • YOU KNOW, YOUR FRIDGE RUNS A LITTLE BIT BETTER, OR YOUR

  • WASHER-DRYER.

  • AND I WOULD INCLUDE, BY THE WAY, PREPARATIONS ON THINGS LIKE

  • PANDEMIC, IF YOU WERE ACTUALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO IT.

  • YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT IF YOU'RE DOING IT

  • RIGHT, PEOPLE DON'T NOTICE.

  • BUT IF YOU SCREW UP, THEN IT'S BAD.

  • >> Stephen: LET'S TAKE ANOTHER QUICK BREAK.

  • WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA.

>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY.

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When Barack Obama First Asked Michelle About Running For President, She Said No

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