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  • the way the NFL works nowadays, I don't have to tell you is you want that guy to get some experience in his rookie year.

  • You expect your to to be the development, your your by year three.

  • You really know what you have, and so teams don't want to waste any time.

  • If they feel their guy is ready now, in terms of protecting him behind that old line, I get that.

  • But that's the nature of the game.

  • He's been hit a lot.

  • I suppose you could say, Well, the more you get hit, the more likely you are to suffer catastrophic injury.

  • And then here you go, right.

  • But like you, I was hit a lot early, too, and guys like, you know, Rivers and those guys and the luck of the draw or the way they were put together.

  • Whatever it is, they had iron man streaks and so, like a shot like the one he took, which, by the way, was so dead like I don't even want to see the replay that looked ugly to me that looked that look bad.

  • Um, the shot he took is more likely to happen behind the porous offensive line, but and quarterbacks are more mobile than they used to be.

  • But I think the formula is gonna be for the foreseeable future.

  • It seems to me you want to get that guy experienced right away the lines.

  • Probably not gonna be that good.

  • That's why they were picking so high in the draft.

  • If you have a top picked, you know, first upper first round, pick it under center, and you know he's gonna take some shots.

  • And if he's durable, he's gonna maybe have a great career.

  • And if he's not, maybe he won't.

  • Andi and Borough just got caught in a bad situation.

  • I think if they could do it again, some of the details you point out would be done differently.

  • But the basic idea of getting him a lot of reps as a rookie, I think is here to stay.

  • Mike Tannenbaum.

  • Always good to see you, buddy.

  • Um, let me say this.

  • There's no secret here.

  • I disagree with you.

  • You know this What I would tell you is this.

  • If your argument is that the Cincinnati Bengals had a putrid offensive line, then I'm with you because the number one objective is to protect the quarterback.

  • We get that and Joe Burrow was sacked 32 times this year, dropped back 204 104 passes was sacked about 32 times.

  • Hit considerably.

  • Mawr.

  • If that is just if that is your argument, I'm with you.

  • I won't refute that part.

  • But the other stuff?

  • Hell, no.

  • Mike Tannenbaum.

  • I'm not going with that.

  • Last time I checked the Cincinnati Bengals don't play in front of crowds and give them allow them to watch in person, free of charge with that perpetual inclement weather in Cincinnati, Ohio, Usually cold And what have you?

  • You got the paying customer that's coming out to the game.

  • So watch a team that had not won a playoff game since 1990.

  • And Max Kellerman.

  • Do you know who they beat in that playoff game?

  • Before they lost to the Raiders in the divisional playoff game, the Cincinnati Bengals beat the Houston Oilers long before, long before they were the Texas the Houston Oilers.

  • OK, that's the last time the Cincinnati Bengals have won a playoff game.

  • They kept Marvin Lewis there too long.

  • 16 years, seven playoff appearances.

  • Oh, and seven in the postseason when you have subjected a local fan base to that level of torture.

  • If you wanna tell me Mike Tannenbaum don't play Joe Burrow because Joe Burrow is going to get himself hurt because that offensive line can't protect them.

  • I'm totally with you.

  • I stand down.

  • I don't argue.

  • But outside of that, my God, you've got to give the fans something to root for.

  • You've got to give them something to hope for.

  • Remember A.

  • J.

  • Green didn't even want to stay until they drafted Joe Burrow and Joe Burrow.

  • When I had a conversation with him.

  • Because, you know, man, it's a new day.

  • I'm here.

  • I'm ready to go.

  • Let's do this.

  • You gotta make sure that you have a culture in place, even more so than protecting them.

  • It's helping to build a culture where guys would actually want to come and stay or state and actually play for you rather than being contaminated by this perpetual in moral bun franchise.

  • Who, by the way, is 0, 13 and one on the road under Zach Taylor.

  • I'm sorry I got to play him unless my offensive line it's so awful.

  • That's the only excuse Stephen A.

  • I agree.

  • And the other way you're gonna turn around that perpetual Morvan franchise.

  • Take a page out of the Kansas City Chiefs.

  • Patrick Mahomes played in one game, his working here.

  • No one's talking about that.

  • So if you wanna please those paying customers in Cincinnati, create your own icon, your own foundation.

  • The object of the exercise is to put Joe Burrow in the best place to be successful, short term and long term.

  • So my point is two parts.

  • One is play Andy Dalton early until you know what's going on in terms of protections, understanding how toe slide protections and know the nuances of your offense.

  • And then, secondly, guys, more fundamentally, how about Geo Bernard?

  • How about Joe Mixon?

  • How about a little bit more balanced to your offense?

  • I worked with Zach Taylor.

  • I like Zach Taylor, but I'm sure if he went back and did an autopsy of how we got here, he would have been more balanced.

  • He would have had Dalton much the way that to his head, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Justin Herbert has had Tyrod Taylor and bring him along slowly, and I would push back to on this.

  • Stephen A.

  • Which is this year.

  • Andy Dalton early on probably give you a better chance to win than Joe Burrow, because he has a lot of time in the offense, much the way we've seen other quarterbacks operate teams that they've been with years and years and years.

  • All right, Mike, in terms of the injury real quick.

  • Stephen.

  • I'm just curious what I want to know about the injury.

  • How how him like when you say, knowing the nuances of the offense.

  • Are you suggesting?

  • Had Andy Dalton started, Joe Burrow would have enough knowledge of the offense that he wouldn't have just suffered a catastrophic injury because even had you started, Andy don't.

  • Eventually, Joe Burrow is playing and it's a bad line.

  • No, look, I would say this.

  • I don't think that's exactly what happened yesterday that could have happened on Play one or play 1000.

  • That's fair, however.

  • He was sat 32 times, and the Cuban effect of those hits asked the Shawn Watson that doesn't help quarterback development.

  • And again, you wanna make this guy successful for 10 years, not 2020 and again you could look at Mahomes.

  • I saw my own career with the New York Jets.

  • Chad Pennington sat for 2.5 years behind Vinny Testaverde, and I'm not saying Dalton is perfect, but he would have been functional.

  • And again it would have allowed Borough to understand how to protect himself better.

  • So it wasn't just about the catastrophic injury about yesterday, but it was also about all those unnecessary hits he's already taken.

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the way the NFL works nowadays, I don't have to tell you is you want that guy to get some experience in his rookie year.

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