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  • How do you look at your work?

  • In retrospect, do you see parts of your character that was crying for help or, you know, pulling you in certain directions?

  • The workshop where I learned Minimalism was led by a man named Tom Span, Bauer and Tom's uh, sort of program of teaching.

  • He called dangerous writing.

  • And he said, The point is to write about something that you don't really fully remember, and you don't really fully understand.

  • But it troubles you, and it's something you can't resolve in your life so that in writing about it, you could explore it through a metaphor.

  • Uh, and that way, even if it never sells, then at least you have the kind of benefit of the therapy of having cathartically looked at every aspect of this, this issue again through a metaphor.

  • You've exaggerated it.

  • You've blown it up out of proportion.

  • You've turned it into a gigantic monster, at least on the page.

  • You've resolved it, and you have really exhausted your emotional reaction to it.

  • And so typically, by the time you're done with the story or the book, your reaction is gone and that issue is gone.

  • It is so amazing.

  • It's so much like magic that by the time you're writing about the story about the story, the real issue has vanished from your life.

  • You come out of writing and the thing has gone entirely.

  • It's just fantastic.

  • So even if you didn't find an editor and agent a publisher, you would keep doing this dangerous writing.

  • Do you need that mentor, though, to keep pushing you to go into the darkness and you have to show up and prove your work and have the workshop people come back to you and say, Come on, Chuck, you're not.

  • This is BS.

  • You're not actually going where you need to go?

  • Well, you know, workshop helps.

  • Oh, my gosh, To get that reaction every week, Uh, and to get the just the task validated.

  • Tom always used to say that 99 of what 99% of what any workshop does is just give you license, validate the task of writing because otherwise you're just a person the terrified that you're wasting your time.

  • Mhm and in workshop, mhm.

  • You're able to discuss these issues, but in a craft way is not you know.

  • What am I doing with my life.

  • It's what is the character doing?

  • And what if the character took this action?

  • And isn't the character aware of this thing or this element?

  • And what about this?

  • Other element came in So you're talking about it in this kind of hands off detached way, and that's really kind of the only way you could talk about these things that are so frightening to you, so kind of submerged in your subconscious.

  • Interesting.

  • I think therapists do that with kids where they'll have, like, a doll or or, you know, a stuffed animal, and I'll ask him how the stuffed animal feels and they can tell them how the stuffed animal feels.

  • But they don't tell them how they feel.

  • I don't know.

  • It kind of came to my mind.

  • You know, the There's a writer, Steve Almond, and he teaches writing workshops around the country, and he's made the observation that talk therapy, you know, it was very popular and very effective, but it was also very expensive and so it was more or less replaced by pharmaceuticals, and now people are coming back to talk therapy, but they're doing it in the form of writing workshops where it's very cheap.

  • Sometimes it's free and you get to have the benefit of kind of, ah rap group or a therapy group.

  • But you are all doing it under the guise of writing a fiction.

  • That's fascinating, and you have to do the work.

  • You can't just show up and talk, Gonna have to go back and create something and go deeper.

  • Vais a little more accountability There may be, and also you have to do it in such a way that it's engaging.

  • You can't just go on to kind of vomit like you would with a therapist.

  • It has to be, you know, something that engages.

  • That's that's clear that other people can relate to.

  • Wow, my wife while stop my wife.

How do you look at your work?

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HEALING THROUGH WRITING: Why It's Important To Be Part Of A Workshop When Writing - Chuck Palahniuk

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    林宜悉 posted on 2020/11/23
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