Name: Yuval Noah Harari Explains the Popularity of COVID Conspiracies
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HISTORIAN, PHILOSOPHER AND BEST SELLING AUTHOR WHOSE BOOKS HAVE

SOLD NEARLY 30 MILLION COPIES WORLDWIDE, HIS NEWEST BOOK

SAPIENS, A GRAPHIC HISTORY IS BRILLIANT AND OUT RIGHT NOW,

PLEASE WELCOME ONE OF THE BRIGHTEST MINDS AN PLANET EARTH,

THE INCREDIBLE YEW VAL NOAH HARARI-- YUVAL NOAH HARARI.

THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK ON THE SHOW, WE ARE SO HAPPY.

>> James: WE WOULD HAVE YOU ON EERY WEEK, JUST FOR ME

PERSONALLY FOR MY OWN SENSE OF SELF BECAUSE WE BOTH, I THINK IT

WAS NEARLY SEVEN MONTHS AGO, ABOUT A MONTH INTO THE PANDEMIC.

WHAT IS THE CURRENT SITUATION IN ISRAEL RIGHT NOW.

>> WELL, I'M DOING FINE, MY HUSBAND IS OKAY, MY FAMILY IS

THE SITUATION BOTH MEDICALLY AND POLITICALLY IS GOING REALLY FROM

>> WELL YEAH, I MEAN THAT FEELS TRUE OF WHEN I SPEAK TO MY

PARENTS IN BRITAIN, IT FEELS TRUE OF WHEN I TURN ON THE NEWS

I MEAN WE'VE JUST GONE THROUGH A VERY DIFFICULT ICIVE

PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION-- DIVISIVE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION HERE.

FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE, WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON HOW THIS ELECTION

>> WELL, ON THE ONE HAND THE GOOD NEWS ASK THAT AS FAR AS CAN

I TELL IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST PEACEFUL, IN TERMS OF THE

ON THE OTHER HAND, YEAH, THE LEVEL OF NOT JUST HATRED BETWEEN

YOU KNOW, IN PREVIOUS, I DON'T KNOW, 50 YEARS AGO, AMERICANS OF

ALL POLITICAL SIDES WERE AFRAID OF FOREIGNERS, THE RUSSIANS ARE

NOW AMERICANS ARE AFRAID OF THOSE FELLOW FENS MUCH MORE THAN

THE DEMOCRATS ARE AFRAID THAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE COMING TO

DESTROY THEIR WAY OF LIFE AND THE REPUBLICANS HAVE THE SAME

AND IN THE LONG RUN YOU CAN'T HAVE A DEMOCRACY IN SUCH A

IT IS NOT JUST THE U.S. ALL OVER THE WORLD WE ARE SEEING THE

I KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE RESURGENCE OF

BUT ACTUALLY ALMOST EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK YOU SEE THAT NATIONAL

COULD LAFNSING, IN CRISIS T IS NOT ABOUT HATING FOREIGNERS,

NATIONALISM IS REALLY LOVING YOUR EXAIT YOTS AND THERE IS

LESS AND LESS SUCH LOVE ON MUCH OF THE PLANET.

AND YOU SEE POLITICIANS WITH WHO CLAIM TO BE NATIONALISTS AND

PATRIOTS AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY DELIBERATELY UNDERMINING THE

THEY ARE BEHAVING AS ANTINATIONALIST LEADERS AND THAT

IS A VERY BIG DANGER, ESPECIALLY FOR DEMOCRACY BECAUSE I DON'T

THINK THAT YOU CAN HAVE A FUNCTIONING DEMOCRACY WITHOUT A

>> James: I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE AND I HAVE NEVER

REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT IN THAT WAY, REALLY.

I THINK SO MUCH IS DOWN TO MISINFORMATION AND THE WAY THAT

WE RECEIVE INFORMATION NOW AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN

KNOCK SHOCKED BY THIS PAST 12 MONTH OR SEVEN, AIDE MONTHS IS

HOW EASILY PEOPLE BELIEVE IN CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

LIKE WHY DO YOU THINK WE AS PEOPLE ARE SO VULNERABLE TO

>> YOU KNOW, THE TRUTH IS PAINFUL OFTEN AND COMPLICATED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE EPIDEMIC, FOR EXAMPLE, TO JUST UNDERSTAND WHAT

A VIRUS IS IT'S SUCH A COMPLICATED THING, A VIRUS IS

NOT EVEN A LIVING BEING STRK NOT AN ANIMAL, IT DOESN'T EAT T

DOESN'T RECRUIT-- BY ITSELF T IS REALLY JUST A PIECE OF

BIOLOGICAL CODE, GENETIC CODE THAT HAS THE AMAZING ABILITY TO

INFILTRATE OUR BODY, HIJACK THE MECHANISM OF THE CELLS IN OUR

BODY AND TELL THE CELLS TO PRODUCE MORE COPIES OF ME, AND

MORE AND MORE COPIES OF THE CODE GOING INTO THE NEARBY CELLS AND

ST IT IS MUCH EASIER TO BELIEVE THAT YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOME

GROUP OF BILLIONAIRES WITH WHO CREATED THIS THIRNG IN SOME

LABORATORY IN ORDER TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD.

AND WHAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE DIFFICULT IS IT VERY OFTEN

SCIENTISTS DON'T MAKE THE EFFORT OR DON'T SEEK IN THE LANGUAGE

YOU DON'T NEED, YOU SHOULDN'T NEED A COLLEGE DEGREE IN BUY

ONLY-- BIOLOGY OR ECONOMICS OR HISTORY OR ANYTHING TO

UNDERSTAND BASIC THINGS LIKE WHAT VIRUSES ARE OR HOW

BUT SCIENTISTS SHOULD MAKE THE EFFORT TO THINK, TO THE GENERAL

PUBLIC IN AN ACCESSIBLE WAY, YOU KNOW, AMONG THEMSELVES

SCIENTISTS OFTEN SEEK IN NUMBERS AND STATISTICS AND MODELS AND

THIS ISN'T WORK, PEOPLE THINK IN SOCIAL, WE ARE SOCIAL ANIMALS SO

YOU NEED TO MAKE THE EFFORT TO EXPLAIN SCIENCE IN A MORE

>> WELL, SPEAKING OF STORIES, LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR BRILLIANT

NEW BOOK SAPIENS, A GRAPHIC HISTORY, THIS IS A GRAPHIC NOVEL

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