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  • obviously the Warriors finishing with the worst record in the N B.

  • A.

  • We know that's due to injury.

  • They have the second overall pick.

  • They take James Wiseman out of Memphis, Max.

  • All things considered, including what Jay just said.

  • Claes Latest injury.

  • Was this the right choice?

  • No, it was the wrong choice, definitively the wrong choice.

  • And look, Stephen A.

  • I hear what you're saying.

  • And by the way, Steve Kerr doesn't have to run a system.

  • Steve Kerr.

  • If he's a great coach and I believe he is, we'll be able to adapt.

  • And maybe he can.

  • They could.

  • They could have a completely different style offense that fits the, you know, not try to fit a round peg in a square hole.

  • But now you have another kind office.

  • They have a lot of athletes.

  • They could do a lot of things right.

  • I'm not talking about that, guys.

  • I'm not saying Wiseman won't be a very good player, at least the DeAndre Jordan type.

  • If that's his floor.

  • And that's what I'm hearing.

  • Scouts think his floors, DeAndre Jordan, a hell of a player if that's you ain't gonna be any worse than that a hell of a player, right?

  • But there is a requisite amount of shooting you need in the modern MBA from distance.

  • See, I'm not saying they can't play another style.

  • I'm saying, Let's look at the lineup.

  • They're going to run out there steps.

  • The greatest shooter ever right?

  • Who else can shoot at all?

  • Wiggins is a bad shooter.

  • He'll shoot a lot of three is like a 33% shooter, and that's because he's made improvements.

  • He is not a shooter.

  • Draymond has been awful from three.

  • And that's playing on the Warriors, where he gets the spacing right.

  • Because where Steph and Clay launch from not all threes are created equal.

  • It gives the defense has to rotate from farther away.

  • So Dre has more time.

  • And even with that shooting under, you know, three had one or two slip.

  • When Wiseman's not a shooter, Paschal is not a shooter.

  • Show me where the shooting comes.

  • You know, I'm so fascinated by I'm so fast.

  • I'm I'm so fascinated by you talking the basketball people like you know, more than us.

  • We watch the games, we know what the hell you talking about.

  • But in the end.

  • When you look at the Western Conference, you not just look at the team we're talking about here.

  • We got a look at some of the other teams of what they're expected to do or not expected to do.

  • Portland was a question mark that came on strong in the bubble before the bubble.

  • They weren't qualified for the playoffs.

  • Memphis was a question mark.

  • We understand that New Orleans was a question mark.

  • They could be on the come up.

  • I'm saying Take into account coaching, take into account experience, take into account marksmanship.

  • The bottom line is Andrew Wiggins was no scrub if Jimmy Butler, conjoined Karl Anthony Towns and Andrew Wiggins and turn them into a playoff team from a perennial lottery team.

  • I think a healthy Steph Curry in that system being coached by Steve Kerr shooting the ball the way that he can shoot with Draymond not looking for him to shoot but defend rebound, pushing the ball up the floor, creating playmaking opportunities for other guys finally having a post presence because the damn show wasn't Joshua Whopper Jr or Andrew Bogut from years ago.

  • You take all of those things into consideration.

  • I'm talking about potentially squeezing into a playoff into a playoff.

  • That's all I'm talking about here.

  • We're out of the championship equation.

  • We get all of that.

  • But can we definitively definitively look here and go like this?

  • All of those teams I mentioned, you know, for beyond a shadow of a doubt that they're going to step up and produce better than Golden State.

  • Can we definitively say Wiseman's the right choice?

  • Stephen A.

  • E.

  • Think so?

  • Absolutely.

  • Stephen A.

  • I think so.

  • Yes.

  • Yes, Stephen A.

  • You said Andrew.

  • You said Andrew Bogey.

  • But then Andrew Bogey, when it's a world championship with the Golden State Warriors.

  • No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

  • I'm not knocking bogus hold on J.

  • J J.

  • I'm not knocking bogey.

  • I'm talking about offensively.

  • He was not a presence.

  • Wiseman will be a presence in the low post offensive.

  • I know that Bogey was great defensively as a rim protector.

  • All I'm saying Stephen A is like Wiseman's not gonna be a guy that you throw the ball to on the block and say, Hey, go get me 20.

  • He's gonna be utilized in the continuity system that Steve Kerr has, which means he's gonna be on the perimeter.

  • And I guess that leads to a lot of questions, right?

  • How do you play Draymond Green and Wiseman together?

  • Because they're both kind of similar players.

  • We're just gonna be interesting.

  • And then I hate talking about this, but it's been factual.

  • When Clay has not been on the court Is that when you don't have another playmaker to make life easy for Steph, that means that the ball has to being steps hands more because he has to be that playmaker.

  • And when I've seen the ball being steps, hands more, the volume increases.

  • I typically have seen him get hurt when he's being asked to do a lot more, because Clay has been able to relieve so much of that load.

  • But they were not Jay, Listen, forgive me off course if guys get hurt, that changes that.

  • I'm sorry.

  • I'm saying if Steph were healthy right now, he's healthy off course.

  • If he gets hurt, they change everything.

  • All I'm saying that's a given.

  • But if stuff stays healthy with the line of the present, you hold on.

  • Hold on, Max.

  • You almost made me hold on.

  • You know, you almost made me laugh with this J.

  • And here's why you said you can't go toe Wiseman for 20 points.

  • Well, guess what.

  • And you, Bogan never gave you more than seven.

  • Can you Can you go toe Wiseman for 13?

  • Can you go to him for 15 j?

  • I'm talking about in single coverage because you gotta pay attention.

  • Can you do that, Stephen?

  • A.

  • I'm gonna tell you the way bogey was used because of his shooting ability.

  • It made him such a threat because he could shoot the ball and it put him in a lot of Pienaar's.

  • And it really caused the defense.

  • Have issues.

  • When you guard all the things that Clay Thompson and stuff did off the Baldwin with a bogey and his pick due to his perimeter shooting to a degree, it was a threat.

  • And James Wiseman has to learn how to shoot Draymond green Draymond Draymond green was always pick and roll partner.

  • I always thought until Katie got there, actually the second most important player on the team because of that.

  • And whether or not Wiseman can also do that, I ask you again, Stephen, a I'm not questioning that they have talent.

  • They have talent.

  • Where does the shooting come from?

  • I don't care how different you play.

  • You must have a base level of shooting or else you're counting by twos.

  • Where does it come from?

  • Well, let me answer that to make a move, right?

  • Let me answer that.

  • Let me answer that.

  • Let me answer that.

  • The fact of the matter is, is that if you have a marksman who is so lead through that, he draws attention, he creates open shots and, due to usually can't shoot, find a way to shoot just a tad bit better because they're wide open.

  • It happens.

  • It can't happen.

  • Last year with stepped and claimed both gone.

  • But with a guy on the court, it could create shooting opportunities for other people good enough for them to win during the regular before going home in the first round of the playoffs.

  • Just we just saw this with Steph and Clay Dre.

  • Stop being able to shoot the three.

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Stephen A. & Max react to the Warriors drafting James Wiseman No. 2 overall | First Take

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    林宜悉 posted on 2020/11/19
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