Siri's Blackish Please welcome our good friend Tracy Ellis Ross, you look fantastic.

Thank you.

Hello.

It is so good to see you.

I see your hair has grown Even though you've cut it and it's grown again, it's no matter what I do it, uh, it refuses to be quieted during this time.

Yeah, I don't think your hair should ever be quieted.

I think it screamed as loudly as it wants to.

Conan.

Yeah, it was very, you know, worried about the elections.

And it's been It's just it is expressing a lot of inner turmoil right now.

Yeah, I think somebody's got Thio.

Someone's got to Let's let's talk about you and then talk much more about me.

Um, congratulations.

You were named fashion icon of 2020 at the People's Choice Awards on Sunday.

Now I congratulate you.

That is also a lot of pressure because you are a fashion icon.

Now, listen, I It didn't feel like a lot of pressure to me.

It felt like it finally validated my shopping habit, and I finally like you could put a I have to buy this.

I'm a fashion icon.

And now you know, these are my pajama scone.

And this is now what I sleep in.

No, not true.

I actually stole this from my both Johnson's wardrobe.

It work very nice.

I take things from wardrobe whenever I can.

Mostly underwear.

And then I put it back.

That's terrible.

That's terrible.

E.

I will return this tomorrow.

Well, you look amazing.

You always look amazing.

You always go the extra mile.

Let me just ask you quickly.

I don't even know how an award show works these days.

Oh, people's choice Awards.

How do you walk?

A red carpet And then usually the times when I've gone to an award show.

It's a lot of hugging handshaking, you know, Cheek kisses.

What are they doing now?

None of that s o.

I.

There were on Lee to photographers spread out distance.

They had partitions between them.

Um, you weren't anywhere in proximity to anybody else.

I actually kind of overlapped with a friend of mine Djamila Jamil, and we automatically magnetically like started walking towards each other.

But then we just moved into the bows and it was Yes, It's so nice to see you and the air hugging, um, the only issue with the red.

Well, there's a ton of issues with all of this.

First of all, it's very surreal to keep doing stuff like that in the middle of this, because it feels like What are we doing?

This is so weird.

And then I would you know, you wear your mask until the last possible moment took my mask off my makeup.

My lipstick was like up my cheek and other way.

It's everywhere.

Like you probably look like Joaquin Phoenix's Joker, you know, just sort of exactly right next year and and up on the nose, too.

But, you know, it feels fun to do safely some of those things, um, to create some semblance of like, I really wanted to go because it was such a big deal.

But then you standing on that stage and all you hear is the echo of your voice, because there's no one there, nobody there, No one.

You don't even walk on the stage with somebody else.

So it's, you know, it's all good.

These air really like.

There's such riel things going on in the world that a lovely, joyful, awkward award show is just fine because there's I'm really glad that you mentioned the bow because, um, I started out doing the elbow bump.

But for years in my monologue I would give a little bow at the top of the show, and I'm finding that that's the way to go.

I see people, and actually you brought up Djamila Jamil.

I saw her recently because we both work on podcast in the same building, and it's there's hardly anybody there and everyone's wearing masks and it's all very safely done.

But I saw her in the hallway and I did a big bow, which is one should bow to you and to Jamila Jamil, you are worthy of a bow, although sometimes I'm bowing it like a gas station attendant.

But it's like I feel like bowing is appropriate.

I feel like you deserve about two, and I feel like a gas station attendant deserves about not this one, not the one.

Okay, I understand that this guy was up to no good.

I don't think he worked at the gas station.

He was just wearing the uniform and trying to steal gas caps so does not Does not deserve about the elbow bump is honestly too close to me.

I'm like, you're still way too close to me.

So this works and you can still make eye contact with the Onley sense that you get to see out of you.

You just get you know, I touch my heart a lot.

This is a hug.

You know, I think I was doing for a while is the elbow bump, But I would lik I would lick it first.

And that was just I don't know why I was doing that.

I was trying to add a little bit of eroticism to it.

And I got a lot of complaints so that I think I think I'm glad you stopped that thing.

Is why I need friends like you who are fashion icons but also can tell me when I'm behaving inappropriately.

I wanna point out something.

Um, you are figuring out a way to still be fashionable even during this pandemic.

Check this out.

I know that you don't need to check it out, but I want my audience to see this is you matching your mask to your shoes, which is.

I mean, I can't.

That's high level, Conan.

Yeah, that is that is operating in the upper 99th percentile.

Who thinks of that?

That's incredible.

You're figuring out a way to me.

The mask of fashion statement.

Let me tell you, who thinks of that?

A fashion icon?

A.

You're not a fashion icon.

Way it, um Conan, here's the thing.

I don't go anywhere.

I am one of those people who is terrified of this pandemic and co vid.

And so if there were some sort of actual bubble I could be in, I would do it.

That was me visiting my products at Alta because Ulta beauty carries pattern my hair care products, and I wanted to see them because we have a whole bunch of new shelf space.

So while I've been home, I have continued shopping and it's a lot of masks.

So I have purchased Cem a beautiful collection of mass that never get used.

And that day I got to coordinate Nice, nice.

But most you know, I just go to work with the mask and then I'm home.

I don't go anywhere you mentioned.

You have this hair care line?

Yes, So my my hair care line is called Pattern On it on.

It's in stores at Ulta Beauty on, then it's also available online.

I think you might be a Zuhair obsessed.

A Zai am.

I've been hair obsessed since I was a kid.

I wanted my hair to look like Elvis.

I wanted it to look like Jack Lord on Hawaii.

50 I wanted to swoosh and a sweep, and I never grew out of it.

I don't know what the problem is, so maybe you have some products.

Do you have anything that I could use?

Or is it no guys allowed?

No.

First of all, I don't think hair has a gender and I agree with you.

I feel like it's the hair is a form of a form of expression, and it's one of the ways I know for you, like it's like an extension of your personality for me, too.

My favorite thing is, when you do this, whatever you do, yes, it's one of my favorite things to do.

It's one of my favorite things.

You know what's interesting?

It started out as what I thought that it was my way of attracting a possible female mate.

And then it turned out that it was really just a cry for help.

So once that was explained to me, I made my peace with it because no one was attracted to this.

They found it interesting, but I think my wife married me.

Despite the question.

I don't know.

I bet you if we talked to your wife, she would say that your hair is also if she would say, it's the third party in your relationship.

But yeah, I do think I have products that would work for you, the styling products Because especially if you like a swoop in a swirl.

Yeah, you know what I mean?

And you want to get some height out of that hair.

I bet you that are, you know, probably our stronghold gel or one of those would work.

I'm gonna check it out.

I'm gonna check it out because I'm always looking for the equivalent of hair Viagra.

And it sounds like you have that.

This sounds like this gel you have could be really helping me.

You know, the I don't know that I've ever called it that.

But in on on that path I would say that at my hair company size matters s so maybe maybe it does go with.

We have a video of you playing with your hair on this.

This was on Instagram.

Why?

Hey!

Mhm!

Mhm, Mhm.

What I love about that is again, um when you when people learn toe, have fun with their hair I mean, you suddenly there.

I spend hours without an iPhone because I'm just messing around with this thing on.

I think I'm better for it.

In order for us to keep each other safe and to possibly move through this pandemic.

At some point, I think we've all had to really change our habits and sort of what we lean thio.

And so if giving your hair a swirl in spending 10 minutes playing stupidly with yourself, I think it's worth it.

You should phrase that differently.

Uh, probably, um, you know, that's that brings up a really good point or question for me is blackish I know that you're you're continuing Thio film show.

How does that work?

I mean, I know what we have to do, but my job is in my job is obviously much simpler.

I can speak to this camera in an abandoned theater with socially distance crew.

You're doing scenes with other actors, and it needs to mimic riel life.

How do you do that?

Well, the writers have had a really tough task.

The writers and directors, mostly this season.

We've had two person scenes so that we can keep a little bit of a distance on DSO.

Sometimes you know, as actors, we push back me being one of them.

I'm like, No, I'm not hugging him, you know, But they're really amenable.

You know, That's one of the things that's had to shift for us.

We've been working for 2.5 months.

Everyone has stayed safe.

The crew wears a mask and shield at all times.

US.

Actors wear mask and shield, except for when we are shooting.

So as soon as they say cut, the mass goes back on.

Um, I think there's ways to do these things safely on, but still be able to enjoy the benefit of working, which I feel so grateful to be able to do and you safely I know that so many people are not able to do that, and I know the damage that that is taking on our economy and people personal lives.

And so I don't know.

It's been really interesting, but I think one of the things that we've realized is you have to shift the priorities of how we have done our jobs.

So safety is number one.

Where is it you could be like, How much can you cram into a day?

You know, the the other thing is, and this is a suggestion for your writers, they don't have to use it if they don't want Thio.

But they could write it in to the Siri's that you all became welders wearing welders and beekeepers.

So you're just That's part of your character Now you're all you're shielded up all the time for your character.

I would love that.

I'll be honest.

I'm one of those people.

But we do have, like, banner, our props.

Master, um, he wears a welder shield and he has a Mohawk, but we haven't been able to see it all season, So he's put a Mohawk on his welders cage.

He wears, I don't know.

We've After 2.5 months, we've actually found some of the joy again um, in in a new way.

I find it really wonderful to be able to go to work.

It's made me, um, so appreciative and grateful for what we're able to dio.

And I don't know.

I don't think the show has suffered, which is a testament.

The writers and producers.

Well, I think that sometimes things can even creativity can flourish in times like this, you know, reminded that when you really put strain and limits, sometimes on people, they do beautiful things.

So I'm glad that you guys, it's such a funny show.

I'm glad you're making more of them.

I'm glad you're continuing to to do great work.

Eso I'm appreciative for that.

And, uh, I'm also appreciative that you're even talking to me now that you're a fashion icon because not many not many fashion icons want to spend.

I'm not getting a lot of phone calls, you know, I don't know why you think that as soon as they said I was getting the Fashion Icon award of 2020 I said the first interview I will do and only you is with Conan o Brien and cant set that up.