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  • Stephen A.

  • Let me ask you this.

  • Do you think the Pats are more likely to finish below or above 500?

  • Neither.

  • I got them at eight and eight.

  • I just looked at the rest of their schedule right here.

  • Um, at at at four and five.

  • Could they go four and three over the final games of the season?

  • Sure, but they've got Houston.

  • I think that's the wind.

  • But then there's Arizona.

  • Both l A teams.

  • The charges in the Rams, the Dolphins, the Buffalo Bills.

  • I'm definitely giving them a victory over Houston.

  • I'm definitely giving them a victory over the New York Jets.

  • Andi.

  • I think that between Arizona charges Rams, Dolphins and Bills, they will go two and three.

  • And that's where they go.

  • You know, I think that that's where they go toe ate and ate.

  • And so for me, that's how that's how I view them right now.

  • I think that defensively, Bill Belichick always figures out a way to keep his team in a contest to make them competitive.

  • But I thought they were assisted greatly by inclement weather in Foxboro on Sunday when they were going up against the Ravens I don't anticipate that that's gonna be a case, particularly in Houston and particularly in in L.

  • A in Miami.

  • They got three road games, two of them in Southern California and one of them near South Beach.

  • I don't think whether will be an issue in those games, so that's where I'm at with it.

  • I think that offensively, their challenge defensively better.

  • But the bottom line is, I just don't think they have enough offensive firepower to win.

  • They'll keep games competitive and close, but ultimately I see them going 43 over the last seven games and finishing with an eight and a record.

  • I'm gonna take him to go over 500 guys and I understand exactly what you're saying.

  • Stephen A.

  • It's good logic and I'll say that their point differential, which tells you underlying like, is negative.

  • They give up more points that they score, which means they should be under 500 right, But let me say something about that real quick.

  • Miami they start the season is very good team.

  • As it turns out, they won by two scores.

  • Seattle They lost on a goal line stand.

  • Seattle was like 78 and one at one point.

  • Right.

  • The Raiders?

  • They won by three scores.

  • That's your sleeper pick in the FC Stephen A.

  • Then they play the Chiefs without camp because of co vid and without Cam and with a terrible call that went against them.

  • They were competitive for most of that came then.

  • They had a bad part of the season, right?

  • The Broncos and the Niners.

  • They lose to the Broncos, a team they were favorite to beat.

  • They get stomped out by the Niners, but I'll remind you, this is right around the time where the facilities were often shut.

  • Like the Chiefs, those the chief's game on their facilities were shut down for days at a time.

  • And when you have all those defections off the defense because of covert and other reasons to start the season and when you have very few offensive weapons and and the coach is doing it with spit and bubble gum, boy, you need that practice time, right?

  • I think they are.

  • Perception of this team is negatively affected by the fact that Cova hit the quarterback, shut down the facilities and they lost to two teams, one of them badly that put them in a real whole.

  • How about since then, as they've come out of that is, they've been unable to practices.

  • As Cam has gotten healthy, they barely lose to the bill's cameras, stripped or else.

  • Probably they win that game.

  • They beat the Jets, they claw their way to victory against a bad team, and then they just very good team in the Ravens.

  • So, actually, when you look at this season, when the Broncos and the Niners make us think of them differently, so now think of a team that's already beaten.

  • Miami beaten the Raiders, beating the Ravens came very close against the Seahawks and the Bills.

  • And now look at their schedule.

  • I think they can beat the Texans, Chargers and Jets.

  • I think that could be three wins.

  • Can they lose one of those games?

  • Shore.

  • But I think that they'll do it against those three teams.

  • Now I'm looking at Arizona at Foxboro.

  • That's, you know, on the road against the Rams on the road against Miami and the Bills can they go to and to Based on what I've seen in their quality wins and near losses, I think they can.

  • I think there's a good chance this team can win nine games and I'll take them to win nine games in spite of this point differential and in spite as of how they've looked at their worst.

  • Yeah, I agree with you, Max.

  • I mean, when you when you look at this football team, listen, Bill Belichick.

  • I mean, he's doing He is doing an incredible job coaching this football team when you talk about all the guys who you decided not to play because of co vid like you said going through the experience with the team as as Cam tested positive and throughout that entire time it's been a masterful job of coaching just to stay competitive in games and all honesty.

  • And like you said, they probably should have beat the Bills, right.

  • It comes down to camp holding onto the ball late, which is a very good football team and I'm the same way you.

  • I'm bullish on them getting nine wins and here this is the crazy part about them at nine wins, they're not gonna make the playoffs right or whatever, so they're kind of I think everybody in the A F.

  • C would take a big sigh of relief because when when Bill Belichick's gets a script for you in the playoffs, I think I think teams get tight.

  • The other part about the Arizona game in particular, I will say this.

  • It will be interesting for me.

  • Toe watch how they defend Kyler.

  • Murray, right?

  • Like like we just saw the Bills have a 23 to 7, uh, lead going into the fourth quarter and not be able to hold it.

  • I'm interested to see how that thing plays out.

  • I'm telling you, the Patriots and Belichick have done a really good job of buying in.

  • I don't love Cam talking about.

  • We're better than our record.

  • Or however he says that kind of thing because the truth is you are what you are right, like like it is what it is.

  • And so your record is what what you played to.

  • But they do have the capability because of coaching.

  • Thio play better than we all anticipated, and I think they have and again Bill Belichick.

  • You know, the greatest of all time or somewhere in that category.

  • But it's been a masterful job on the coaching side.

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Stephen A.

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