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  • Patrick Mahomes weighing in D hop is a monster, LeBron adding.

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  • Hop, hop, hop, my bro is different.

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  • Here's a segment about his tweets.

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  • Get up, though.

  • Okay, look at the NFC West.

  • Three teams tied in the first spot at six and three.

  • We're gonna get to see two of them on Thursday Night Football this week.

  • That'll be fun.

  • Max, tell me this are the cards legit?

  • Super Bowl contenders?

  • I think if you think the answer is yes.

  • And I think if you can come out of the NFC West if your number which could happen, they mean they could win it.

  • If you ask me what I like.

  • I like Seattle.

  • Stephen Nou.

  • Like the Rams, it could be the Cardinals if you're even in this position at this point in the season.

  • Especially when you're just now getting some defensive players back when your first round draft pick hasn't really played up to his potential on defense yet, you know when but like is starting to get some time.

  • If you're already in this position.

  • Yeah, I have to say, if you come out of the toughest division in football, which could happen.

  • Of course, you're a real Super Bowl contender, and more than that, if you could just keep it close.

  • We saw what Kyler Murray could do with DeAndre Hopkins.

  • Think about a playoff game.

  • You're the team that Arizona's playing against.

  • Your team is playing against the Arizona Cardinals, and they're hanging tough and it's a close game.

  • And Kyler Murray has his hands on the ball.

  • At the end of the game, you are sweating you this.

  • It's like a nightmare because, as Ryan Clark said, DeAndre Hopkins in traffic, maybe the best whoever did it, he's on a short list.

  • At the very least, write a contested ball.

  • Kyler Murray like.

  • Imagine that you could do everything right defensively again on both ends of the play.

  • Everything right defensively on Kyler Murray everything right defensively on DeAndre Hopkins, and it still may be in under 50 50 proposition for you to stop them from scoring at the end of the game.

  • All they got to do is keep it close, and they've shown the ability to do that, and they've shown the ability to win the kinds of games that you're thinking, you're probably you're supposed to lose this game like against Seattle in overtime, like against the Bills just now.

  • Yeah, Arizona Cardinals have to be considered legit, especially when their defense is healthy.

  • Legit Super Bowl contenders.

  • You know what?

  • I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, Max.

  • I get where you're coming from, and I certainly get where Ryan Clark is coming from about D hop and obviously column.

  • Murray.

  • But can y'all work?

  • Can y'all vibe with me on this one?

  • I gotta see.

  • I got to see you know why I feel that way.

  • It's because it's because of Lamar Jackson.

  • It's because of Lamar Jackson.

  • What do we say, Max?

  • Um, I doing you write the Mark Jackson 25?

  • Oh, that's how you talked about him right in the regular season.

  • But come postseason time, that running ability, that electrifying running ability, we need to Seymour off what he's going to do come postseason, I think, personally speaking, in terms of the eye test, I think he is a better natural thrower off the football than Lamar Jackson.

  • Obviously, Lamar Jackson a little bit of running the football, but Colin Murray has proven to be electrified in and of himself.

  • You've got Kenyan Drake running the football for them.

  • You've got D hop along with Larry Fitzgerald, Laura Just Kid, Christian Kirk that they've you know they've utilized as well.

  • I understand it, but I will keep in mind the last three games they've given up 30 or Mawr plus for the last two games.

  • They've given 30 or more.

  • You can score on this Arizona Cardinals defense, and you can force collar Murray to make some mistakes.

  • He's thrown 88 interceptions on the season thus far, which is not awful.

  • I'm just saying I look at them right now and when I think about some of the elite teams in the National Football League, it remains to be seen.

  • I think that they're right there.

  • I think that they'll make more noise in the future because collar Murray is that Dude, I'm just not sold on them right now.

  • As of yet, I gotta see come postseason time.

  • I got to see it to believe it.

  • Stephen A.

  • You don't even have to hedge that bet you are not wrong.

  • This isn't the year they are.

  • They are a year ahead.

  • And if you listen to what some other people thought about me, even yourself when they went to hire Cliff Kingsbury, you didn't expect them to be here when they decided that they were gonna move on from Josh Rosen and draft this 5 ft 10 quarterback out of Oklahoma first overall, people didn't buy in.

  • People didn't believe it.

  • And it's just so happened that that dude that plays quarterback Colin Murray is so talented.

  • You get somebody to be dumb enough to trade your DeAndre Hopkins.

  • And now you sped the process up a little bit and listen.

  • Advanced.

  • Joseph, who is probably the most famous alum from my high school, the only one everyone, a state championship quarterback.

  • I couldn't do it.

  • Vance.

  • Joseph has some more work to do with this defense that you score a little bit too easily.

  • You're having to depend on Colin Murray in late game heroics a little too much for me, but they're just a year off.

  • You know, you look at some of those top tier teams you think New Orleans Saints, You think the Green Bay Packers.

  • I believe that the Rams or one of those teams that could have sent.

  • I believe the Arizona Cardinals air righting that group right below, and it would take for a tremendous amount of things toe happen perfectly in their favor for them to get an opportunity to go to a Super Bowl.

  • But they are building.

  • They are good, they are young, they are exciting.

  • But when you watch the game and you know you kind of talked about the eye test, when when you watch the game and you look at and you say, You know what?

  • This isn't Super Bowl caliber football and all three phases.

  • This isn't Super Bowl caliber coaching in all three phases.

  • And so this team has to continue to grow.

  • But they're in the thick of it.

  • There in the hunt, there gonna be a playoff team, and there's gonna be defensive coordinators who are killing themselves, staying in the building, sleeping in their offices, trying to find out ways to stop collar Murray in this offense.

  • But I just think that other teams are gonna be a little too much holistically for the Arizona Cardinals to get to the Super Bowl this year or contend this year.

  • But I believe they will continue to grow and a Zafar as a team in the future.

  • This is gonna be one of the teams.

  • I believe we talked about a lot as having opportunities to win huge games.

  • I don't disagree with that at all.

  • But Max, before I handed to you, let me say, just just for clarifications, for the purposes of our audience On first take, I have been on the record on many, many occasions, lamenting the fact that Cliff Kingsbury got this job.

  • I think that this year he is doing an outstanding job and he deserves all equipment in the world.

  • Having said that, having said that, I don't budge on my position one damn bit.

  • I don't give a damn if he wins the Super Bowl.

  • I'll start getting props and he will deserve and he will deserve it.

  • My position.

  • Waas based on his resume as a collegiate coach, having never coached on any NFL level and on top of it all, clearly not winning in college foot.

  • Well, he never deserved the job.

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