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  • what happened to Jimmy Hoffa?

  • And what was John Gotti like?

  • Okay, uh, I'll tell you this about Jimmy Hoffman.

  • You know, about three years ago, guy that I knew really well gets out of prison contacts.

  • Me.

  • Mike, I got to talk to you.

  • Come to New York.

  • I want to see his name was Peter.

  • I won't give his last name, and he tells me he says, Mike, there's a guide in in prison that you know very well.

  • He told me this story.

  • He wants to relate it to you.

  • He's never getting out of prison.

  • He's doing life.

  • But if you ever do this story, he wants you to take care of his family.

  • I said okay.

  • Basically, it was the story of Hoffman's murder, and this was one of the shooters Guy knew.

  • Well, I believe in the guy.

  • Peter.

  • That told me.

  • I said, Look, I want you to put all of this on tape because he was sickly on.

  • I knew he wasn't gonna last, so he puts it on tape.

  • I have the tapes, tells me the whole story, Peter dies.

  • I got the tapes.

  • Is the one catch the body?

  • I don't believe anybody's ever gonna find Hoffa's body because I always say this.

  • It's wet.

  • That much I can tell you.

  • And so people have come to me.

  • Michael, you got to tell the story.

  • I said, You know what?

  • It's been told so many times, but if you don't find the body, it's just another story.

  • So why would I bother telling it?

  • I had somebody, a production company that said they would put up a million dollars to go search for the body, and that in itself would be the story.

  • And I said, You know what?

  • Let's see what happens.

  • I don't know if I want to do this because I don't wanna be one of these guys that claimed that I know where Hoffa is, and then it turns out to be a dead end.

  • I believe the story I have it on tape was, you know, uh, you know, to me, very credible, but we'll see what happens.

  • So that's all I can say about, uh, it's always wet.

  • So he's at the bottom of some body of water is what you're saying because you know everybody, there has been a couple of guys I will tell you this.

  • The Irishman, the movie?

  • Absolutely not true.

  • Shear him was not one of the shooters.

  • And that movie he's been debunked, you know, by credible sources wasn't true.

  • Good movie.

  • Just wasn't a true story.

  • But, um uh, I was gonna We'll see what happens.

  • But I don't wanna be one of those guys that just tell another story.

  • Because how many people have said they know where the body is and they've investigated dug up places, and they never found it.

  • So I don't wanna be one of those guys, but But what was the second question?

  • Eso He's not.

  • So he's not in concrete.

  • He's wet, is what you're saying.

  • That's what I believe to be true.

  • Okay.

  • Gotcha.

  • Gotti.

  • What was God he like?

  • You know, John was very difficult to deal with in business.

  • You had a tremendous ego.

  • He could never lose an argument.

  • You had toe.

  • You know, if you had any kind of dispute with him and you want it, you had to try to outsmart him to make him think he got the best of you.

  • But you got what you wanted.

  • It was very difficult to deal with in the business.

  • It wasn't a business guy at all, and but on a social level, he was a lot of fun.

  • Go out at night, have a drink with him.

  • You know, he was kinda Hey, was It was fun that way.

  • So I didn't you know, I wasn't one of his best friends.

  • I wasn't in his crew, but we got along.

  • I had a couple of disputes with him, and it was It wasn't It wasn't enjoyable.

  • Let's put it that way.

  • Okay?

  • And your dad knew Al Capone's that, right?

  • You know what?

  • My dad said that on a visit to Chicago, and I think 28 or 29 when he was a kid, that he met Capone.

  • I don't think he met him here when he was in Brooklyn, Right.

  • I think he met him out in Chicago, but he was a kid at that time, so he, uh, you know, didn't have much of anything to do with him.

  • But he knew some of the other guys he met.

  • Lucky Luciano.

  • He knew Costello.

  • You know, he knew those guys.

  • He met him.

  • And what was the story?

  • I mean, Capone was run out of New York City and then went out to Chicago.

  • What was the real story behind Capone?

  • Well, that's it.

  • I mean, he settled in Chicago because he was brought out there by another friend of his A that time.

  • And then, you know, he fell into it with Prohibition.

  • Listen, Prohibition is really what gave the mob the strength at at that time.

  • I mean, you know, the money was in those days, it was, you know, it was astronomical.

  • And so, you know, money is power in certain way.

  • You got money, you know, you by politicians, you know, you you get a big crew around you and you're able to control a lot of things.

  • So Prohibition made component.

  • Let's put it that way.

  • The three government didn't realize that they gave the mob the strength in these lost people.

  • You know, people want what they can't have.

  • And you provide a service and components to say that I just provide a service for the people.

  • I give them alcohol, liquor, you know.

  • So you know, he did certainly well out there, But look, the government went down on him in a big way.

  • So what happened there?

  • Even Al Capone, who had politicians under his belt.

  • He had all the money that couldn't need.

  • He had a big crew around him.

  • What happened goes to jail.

  • It doesn't pay my wife.

  • Why my wife?

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