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  • But if you look at the accuracy over the last five years, max 70% completion 72 for 74 74 74 I mean, well, you know what you're pointing out away from greatness when you're pointing to that level of accuracy that he's delivering on top of winning games.

  • You're breaking out.

  • You're pointing out.

  • This happens in baseball.

  • The pitchers.

  • You know the same thing.

  • If they start out fast ball like 100 mile an hour fastball, they strike out a lot of guys as their career moves on.

  • If they want to stay elite, they get better control there in the strike zone, more so their totals keep going down.

  • But their home run allowed goes up because they're in the strike zone.

  • They don't have the same stuff.

  • Drew Brees.

  • I see the same thing you do.

  • He basically led the league in passing yards every single season.

  • It seemed for a long time with over 5000 lead, the league legal legally, but and his and his completion percentage was in the high sixties.

  • Now he's leading the league in completion percentage every year, and the passing yards are playing the same He's evolving as a player, but that's still illegal.

  • Yes, it is.

  • Yes, it is.

  • And I'll tell you what.

  • I'll use one of your analogies.

  • You use baseball, right?

  • You just used baseball.

  • Okay, I'll throw a basketball analogy at you that both you and I have used.

  • We watched MJ.

  • Then we watched Kobe.

  • They were not only great ballplayers, they had crazy athleticism.

  • As age and attrition kicked in, they had toe modify their game to some degree, become more perimeter oriented to maintain the level of success.

  • We looked at things differently, but we didn't question their greatness.

  • What we said was they had to sit up there and modify it, change it up a little bit, but they're still great.

  • They're just not as athletic as they used to be.

  • If you're telling me Drew Brees ain't the same, do with his velocity, I got you.

  • But in terms of the results, if you look at the level of accuracy and he's winning football games and he's leading his team and he's playing the quarterback position, you could tell me that Drew Brees might not be the same quarterback.

  • I'm just saying, Don't eradicate greatness from the category while you're talking about him.

  • Because he's great, in fact, that I can give you examples of baseball pitchers, a couple them and pitch for the Yankees, Ron Guidry or later on David Wells, who got better and better in terms of in terms of the control.

  • Fewer walks, fewer strikeouts, more home runs allowed.

  • Still elite.

  • Not once.

  • They what they once were, maybe, but still elite.

  • But this is the problem with Drew Brees.

  • When you bring up Jordan and Kobe, that's true.

  • They were still elite because Jordan and Kobe, in the moment of truth, could still put their team over the top with, you know, taking the fade away if they needed to, instead of just taking it hard to the hole.

  • We haven't seen Drew Brees do that.

  • I know football's different.

  • Even the quarterback does not have as much sway on the outcome of the game as maybe a starting pitcher who's really dominant baseball or a wing.

  • A perimeter player who's who.

  • You run the offense through in basketball, but the ball is still in their hands at the end of games, and Stephen A.

  • We have seen in the playoffs time and again, Drew Brees look old and beaten up in the moment of truth, I'm not saying he's definitely not.

  • I'm saying we have not seen this year improved.

  • That, huh is two things that this worth pointing out here.

  • Max number one, not old, beaten up.

  • There's a difference, because it doesn't have to be both.

  • You could be beaten up.

  • You could be very.

  • We don't look old because you got your behind beat up.

  • Okay, that's number one.

  • Number two.

  • Your number one weapon.

  • Michael Thomas.

  • Over the last three years.

  • 104 125 and last year, 149 receptions.

  • His number one target.

  • Max Kellerman.

  • Michael Thomas has only played two games this year.

  • Yeah, yeah, I've been bringing this up forever, by the way, the Saints at this moment, the Saints of my pick in the NFC.

  • But that's different because because I think Drew Brees, because I think Drew Brees still has elite accuracy.

  • But whether or not he's an elite quarterback remains to be seen as the year progresses.

  • Stephen A.

  • People would didn't know if he was coming back this year and part of it because you saw the throws down the field.

  • They didn't look the same.

  • Cool, Cool.

  • Paul's right there, Max.

  • You just finished saying, Drew Brees is a quarterback that has elite accuracy.

  • How can you sit up there?

  • I just want you to think about people listening to you.

  • You're going to say that a quarterback has elite accuracy, but don't give him greatness.

  • Well, hold on.

  • When you talk about elite, you're talking about the upper crust, even if you want to say Drew Brees.

  • His name came after Peyton and Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers.

  • It was always there.

  • If you're asking me to name the elite quarterbacks in the NFL right now, I'm telling you, Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson.

  • I do not have Drew Brees in that group right now.

  • Do you have any five?

  • Arguably, I don't know.

  • I e need to see him with his weapons now.

  • And when you talk about elite accuracy, yes, E accuracy is the second most important thing of quarterback has.

  • The first is processing information quickly.

  • The second is accuracy.

  • Then you have to worry about arm strength.

  • You have the requisite arm strength you don't need to have the biggest can into the world.

  • I would not put Drew Brees.

  • Forget about the arbitrary number of quarterbacks, Whether it's 34 or five, I think there are levels.

  • The top level to me does not include breeze at this moment.

  • It used to Max Kellerman, Drew Brees, elite accuracy, winning football games.

  • You talked about processing information and throwing the ball accurately.

  • I don't think there's a soul alive that would question his processing information neither.

  • And I'm not saying you're doing that because I know you're not.

  • But there's not a soul alive that would question and processing information.

  • There's not a soul alive that would question is accuracy And, oh, by the way, Max, you need to see it.

  • The brother has been in the NFL for 20 years.

  • He's time achievement of a first ballot Hall of Famer.

  • He's done this for the last 12, 13 years.

  • Not exactly this.

  • No, this is what I'm talking about, not just copy this.

  • He is.

  • He is an all time great.

  • There's no denying Drew Brees is great, but he's still an effective NFL quarterback.

  • Certainly, I think, effective enough to win the Super Bowl, but I need to see him do it.

  • I need to see him at the end of the season.

  • Still be a guy when you go.

  • I'd rather have him than the other guy.

  • It hasn't been that way in recent years, and now there are no excuses.

  • Stephen A.

  • They have a full complement of receivers.

  • They have a running game that just doesn't guys.

  • Here is what Drew Brees has proved so far this season.

  • In a James, he's had 2120 yards passing, 17 passing touchdowns, just three interceptions.

  • And by the way, that's the same amount of interceptions Tom Brady had in just one game last week against the Saints.

But if you look at the accuracy over the last five years, max 70% completion 72 for 74 74 74 I mean, well, you know what you're pointing out away from greatness when you're pointing to that level of accuracy that he's delivering on top of winning games.

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    林宜悉 posted on 2020/11/15
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