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♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY,
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WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE SHOW."
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JOINING ME TONIGHT FROM ACROSS THE POND ARE THE ACADEMY AWARD
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WINNING STAR OF "THE FAVOURITE" AND THE EMMY WINNING STAR OF
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"THE X-FILES" AND "THE FALL."
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THEY'RE CURRENTLY TEAMING UP FOR SEASON FOUR OF "THE CROWN" ON
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NETFLIX.
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>> IT MAY SURPRISE YOU TO LEARN I ENJOY PREDICTING MINISTERIAL
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COMINGS AND GOINGS.
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IT'S LIKE THE RACES: I LIKE TO STUDY ODDS, WHO'S IN, WHO IS
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OUT.
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MY BEST SO FAR WAS MR. WILSON'S SUCCESS RESHUFFLE.
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I GOT 90%.
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WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR MY PREDICTIONS FOR YOURS?
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I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE WOMEN.
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>> WOMEN?
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>> IN CABINET.
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>> OH, CERTAINLY NOT.
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NOT JUST BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY SUITABLE CANDIDATES.
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BUT I HAVE FOUND WOMEN IN GENERAL TEND NOT TO BE SUITED TO
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HIGH OFFICE.
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>> OH, WHY IS THAT?
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WELL, THEY BOTTOM TOO EMOTIONAL.
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>> I DOUBT YOU'LL HAVE THAT TROUBLE WITH ME.
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>> Stephen: PLEASE WELCOME OLIVIA COLMAN AND GILLIAN
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ANDERSON!
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>> HELLO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
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>> HI!
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THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
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>> Stephen: I INTRODUCED YOU AS COMING FROM ACROSS THE POND.
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ARE YOU IN THE U.K. RIGHT NOW?
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WAS I CORRECT?
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>> YES.
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>> YES.
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>> Stephen: SO HOW IS THE SECOND LOCKDOWN GOING?
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I KNOW, SADLY, THE U.K. HAD TO LOCK DOWN AGAIN.
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HOW ARE YOU SPENDING YOUR TIME?
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>> WELL-- >> INDOORS.
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>> YES.
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>> Stephen: GOOD.
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I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HAVING "THE CROWN" COME OUT RIGHT NOW
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AS WE'RE ABOUT TO ENTER OUR WINTER OF OUR DISCONTENT HERE,
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AS WE HAVE TO SORT OF LOCK DOWN A LITTLE BIT-- NOT OFFICIALLY,
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BUT IT'S SPIKING IN THE UNITED STATES.
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SO WE ALL NEED SOMETHING GOOD TO OCCUPY US WHILE WE'RE INDOORS.
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AND I'M EXCITED, OLIVIA, THAT YOU'RE BACK AS QUEEN ELIZABETH
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II.
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GILLIAN, HERE YOU ARE.
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>> THERE I AM.
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>> Stephen: THAT HAIRSTYLE LOOKS LIKE IT COULD SURVIVE
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REENTRY FROM LOW ORBIT.
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BOTH OF YOU HAVE SUBSTANTIAL HAIRSTYLES.
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>> MINE'S BIGGER THAN HERS.
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( LAUGHTER ).
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>> Stephen: BESIDES THE HAIR AND MAKEUP, GILLIAN, WERE THERE
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PARTICULAR-- YOUR THATCHER IS EXTRAORDINARY.
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ARE THERE CERTAIN PHYSICAL MANNERISMS THAT YOU PICKED UP
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FROM HER THAT WERE HOOKS FOR YOU?
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>> WELL, CERTAINLY, THE VOICE IS A BIG WEIGH-IN TO HER.
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AND YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANT PHYSICALLY IN TERMS OF,
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YOU KNOW, ADDING A WIG AND ADDING CLOTHES AND A-- YOU KNOW,
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A SUIT.
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I WORE A SUIT TO MAKE ME A BIT WIDER.
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AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF YOU DON'T
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REALLY HAVE THE VOICE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT ODD.
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SO A GOOD WAY IN IS THE VOICE.
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>> Stephen: WHAT'S THE SECRET TO HER VOICE?
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WHAT'S THE SECRET TO THE THATCHER?
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>> WELL, SHE USED-- SHE WAS VERY BREATHY.
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AND SO-- AND HER PITCH WAS A BIT LOWER THAN MINE.
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AND SO-- AND, ALSO, THE WAY WHEN I-- WHEN I GO INTO HER, THERE'S
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A WAY OF HOLDING-- HOLDING THE TEETH OVER THE LOWER LIP JUST A
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LITTLE BIT.
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AND, GO ON, STEPHEN.
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JUST BREATHING OUT.
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BREATHING OUT.
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>> Stephen: BREATHING OUT...
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>> BREATHING OUT.
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>> Stephen: I'M MARGARET THATCHER.
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>> AND TAKING A DEEP BREATH AND DON'T LET SOMEBODY ELSE COME IN.
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DON'T INTERRUPT ME.
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I WON'T LET YOU INTERRUPT ME DISPLU SOUND LIKE MARGARET
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THATCHER.
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I SOUND LIKE THE CRYPT KEEPER.
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>> YOU LOOK A LITTLE LIKE A DUMMY.
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YOU LOOK A LITTLE LIKE SOMEBODY HAS THEIR HAND UP YOUR TROUSERS.
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>> Stephen: THAT SOUNDS DELIGHTFUL.
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OLIVIA, I HAVE SPOKEN TO SOME OF YOUR COSTARS ABOUT HOW THEY FIND
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THE ROYAL VOICE AS OPPOSED TO, SORT OF A STANDARD RECEIVED
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QUEEN'S ENGLISH.
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THE QUEEN DOESN'T SPEAK THE RECEIVE'S QUEEN'S ENGLISH, DOES
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SHE?
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>> R.P., WE CALL "RECEIVED PRONUNCIATION" WHICH IS HOW I
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SUPPOSE I SPEAK AND GILLIAN SPEAKS.
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I DON'T KNOW.
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I'M PROBABLY THE WORST PERSON TO INTERVIEW ABOUT THIS.
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I TRIED TO PAY ATTENTION BUT I DON'T REALLY RETAIN INFORMATION.
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BUT I THINK I'M SORT OF AVERAGE ENGLISH SOUNDING, BUT, YES, THE
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ROYALS HAVE A WHOLE OTHER LEVEL OF...
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SPEAKING.
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>> Stephen: HOW WOULD-- >> FOR EXAMPLE, CAN I TEACH YOU
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HOW TO SAY "YES?" >> Stephen: YES.
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>> IN THE QUEEN'S ENGLISH.
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SO IF YOU SAY-- THIS IS WHAT-- SO WILLIAM CONQUER, WHO WAS OUR
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INCREDIBLE VOICE TEACHER, HE GAVE ALL OF US THIS LITTLE TRICK
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WHEN WE STARTED, MAINLY JUST TO MAKE US LEAVE.
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IF YOU SAY E-A-R-S.
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>> Stephen: EARS.
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>> YES.
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>> Stephen: I'M SORRY.
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SAY IT AS THE QUEEN.
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>> EARS.
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( LAUGHTER ).
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>> Stephen: THIS IS MY QUEEN THATCHER ER.
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>> THAT'S IT.
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>> Stephen: THAT'S NICE.
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>> THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
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>> Stephen: GILLIAN, OBVIOUSLY, MARGARET THATCHER IS
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THE IRON LADY, AND THE QUEEN, AT LEAST TO THOSE OF US WATCHING
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FROM A DISTANCE OVER HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, SEEMS LOOK A
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FIGURE A BIT CARVED IN MARBLE, VERY STADE, VERY PROPER.
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NOW THAT YOU HAVE PLAYED THEM, I ASSUME THERE IS A MORE TENDER OR
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HUMAN SIDE THAT YOU DIDN'T SEE BEFORE.
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LIKE IS THE QUEEN-- DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO HEAR HER CALLED LILIBET
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TO YOU NOW, AS PHILLIP CALLS HER?
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>> WELL, YES, I THINK IT'S MORE-- I MEAN, I WOULD NEVER
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DARE TO BE PRESUMPTIONUOUS ENOUGH TO SAY I KNOW, YOU KNOW,
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HOW SHE FEELS.
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I'M AN ACTOR SAYING WORDS, PRETENDING TO BE SOMEONE.
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BUT SHE-- SHE'S OBVIOUSLY HUMAN, AND SHE'S BEEN FORCED INTO THIS
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JOB THAT SHE WASN'T ACTUALLY MEANT TO DO.
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IT WAS MEANT TO BE SOMEBODY ELSE.
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AND SHE'S DONE IT WITH EXTRAORDINARY GUSTO AND DIGNITY
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AND...
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I DON'T KNOW.
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I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT HER BEFORE, REALLY.
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YOU KNOW, GROWING UP IN A PLACE WHERE THEY HAVE ALWAYS EXISTED,
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YOU DON'T REALLY I THINK PAY ATTENTION TO IT AS MUCH AS
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COUNTRY WHERE'S THEY DON'T HAVE A MONARCHY, WHICH IS REALLY
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FASCINATING.
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SO LEARNING ABOUT HER, I THINK-- I DON'T KNOW.
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EVERYTHING I'M SAYING IS JUST MADE UP, BECAUSE I DONT KNOW.
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SHE SEEMS LIKE A SWEET WOMAN WHO HAS MADE A VOW TO DO THIS JOB
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AND IS DOING IT VERY WELL TO THE BEST OF HER ABILITIES, AND
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CONSIDERING SHE WAS NEVER MEANT TO DO IT, I THINK SHE'S PRETTY
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BLOODY MARVELOUS AT IT.
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AND I THINK SHE'S NOT AS STONE AS SHE SEEMS, I THINK.
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>> Stephen: AND WHAT ABOUT-- WHAT ABOUT THATCHER, GILLIAN?
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BECAUSE-- >> THATCHER, ON THE OTHER HAND,
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IS AS IRON AS SHE SEEMS, I THINK.
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I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE WRITING IN "THE CROWN,"
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PETER'S WRITING IS-- HE CREATES VERY THREE-DIMERCIAL CHARACTERS,
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AND I THINK-- AT LEAST FOR ME, I ALWAYS FELT THAT THATCHER WAS--
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WHAT I KNEW OF HER SEEMED TO BE QUITE TWO-DIMENSIONAL.
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AND, YOU KNOW, "THE CROWN" IS REALLY WONDERFUL AT SHOWING
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MANY, MANY DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE HUMAN BEINGS THAT THEY'RE--
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THAT THE ACTORS GET TO PORTRAY.
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SO, YOU KNOW, IN DOING THE RESEARCH THAT-- A LOT OF
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RESEARCH FOR THATCHER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FEELS MOST
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IMPORTANT IS TO KIND OF PUT PRECONCEPTIONS TO THE SIDE AND
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START FROM SCRATCH BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF STRONG FEELINGS
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IN THE U.K. ABOUT THE IRON LADY.
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AND TO FIND A WAY INTO HER SO YOU GET TO UNDERSTAND HER BELIEF
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SYSTEM AND & WHAT DROVE HER TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE
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DID.
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WHICH MEANS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT FIND SOME SYMPATHY FOR HER AND
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SOME COMPASSION.
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BUT AT LEAST, IF NOT THOSE THINGS, YOU AT LEAST FEEL THAT
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YOU ARE...
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CREATING A MORE THREE-DIMENSIONAL CHARACTER THAN
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YOU MIGHT OTHERWISE WOULD WITHOUT DOING THAT WORK.
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>> Stephen: LADIES WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK.
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STICK AROUND EVERYBODY, WE'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OLIVIA COLMAN AND
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GILLIAN ANDERSON.
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I WILL ASK WHAT IT'S LIKE TO GO TO BUCKINGHAM PALACE AND MEET
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THE FANCY PEOPLE.