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  • ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY,

  • WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE SHOW."

  • JOINING ME TONIGHT FROM ACROSS THE POND ARE THE ACADEMY AWARD

  • WINNING STAR OF "THE FAVOURITE" AND THE EMMY WINNING STAR OF

  • "THE X-FILES" AND "THE FALL."

  • THEY'RE CURRENTLY TEAMING UP FOR SEASON FOUR OF "THE CROWN" ON

  • NETFLIX.

  • >> IT MAY SURPRISE YOU TO LEARN I ENJOY PREDICTING MINISTERIAL

  • COMINGS AND GOINGS.

  • IT'S LIKE THE RACES: I LIKE TO STUDY ODDS, WHO'S IN, WHO IS

  • OUT.

  • MY BEST SO FAR WAS MR. WILSON'S SUCCESS RESHUFFLE.

  • I GOT 90%.

  • WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR MY PREDICTIONS FOR YOURS?

  • I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE WOMEN.

  • >> WOMEN?

  • >> IN CABINET.

  • >> OH, CERTAINLY NOT.

  • NOT JUST BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY SUITABLE CANDIDATES.

  • BUT I HAVE FOUND WOMEN IN GENERAL TEND NOT TO BE SUITED TO

  • HIGH OFFICE.

  • >> OH, WHY IS THAT?

  • WELL, THEY BOTTOM TOO EMOTIONAL.

  • >> I DOUBT YOU'LL HAVE THAT TROUBLE WITH ME.

  • >> Stephen: PLEASE WELCOME OLIVIA COLMAN AND GILLIAN

  • ANDERSON!

  • >> HELLO, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

  • >> HI!

  • THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

  • >> Stephen: I INTRODUCED YOU AS COMING FROM ACROSS THE POND.

  • ARE YOU IN THE U.K. RIGHT NOW?

  • WAS I CORRECT?

  • >> YES.

  • >> YES.

  • >> Stephen: SO HOW IS THE SECOND LOCKDOWN GOING?

  • I KNOW, SADLY, THE U.K. HAD TO LOCK DOWN AGAIN.

  • HOW ARE YOU SPENDING YOUR TIME?

  • >> WELL-- >> INDOORS.

  • >> YES.

  • >> Stephen: GOOD.

  • I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HAVING "THE CROWN" COME OUT RIGHT NOW

  • AS WE'RE ABOUT TO ENTER OUR WINTER OF OUR DISCONTENT HERE,

  • AS WE HAVE TO SORT OF LOCK DOWN A LITTLE BIT-- NOT OFFICIALLY,

  • BUT IT'S SPIKING IN THE UNITED STATES.

  • SO WE ALL NEED SOMETHING GOOD TO OCCUPY US WHILE WE'RE INDOORS.

  • AND I'M EXCITED, OLIVIA, THAT YOU'RE BACK AS QUEEN ELIZABETH

  • II.

  • GILLIAN, HERE YOU ARE.

  • >> THERE I AM.

  • >> Stephen: THAT HAIRSTYLE LOOKS LIKE IT COULD SURVIVE

  • REENTRY FROM LOW ORBIT.

  • BOTH OF YOU HAVE SUBSTANTIAL HAIRSTYLES.

  • >> MINE'S BIGGER THAN HERS.

  • ( LAUGHTER ).

  • >> Stephen: BESIDES THE HAIR AND MAKEUP, GILLIAN, WERE THERE

  • PARTICULAR-- YOUR THATCHER IS EXTRAORDINARY.

  • ARE THERE CERTAIN PHYSICAL MANNERISMS THAT YOU PICKED UP

  • FROM HER THAT WERE HOOKS FOR YOU?

  • >> WELL, CERTAINLY, THE VOICE IS A BIG WEIGH-IN TO HER.

  • AND YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANT PHYSICALLY IN TERMS OF,

  • YOU KNOW, ADDING A WIG AND ADDING CLOTHES AND A-- YOU KNOW,

  • A SUIT.

  • I WORE A SUIT TO MAKE ME A BIT WIDER.

  • AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF YOU DON'T

  • REALLY HAVE THE VOICE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT ODD.

  • SO A GOOD WAY IN IS THE VOICE.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT'S THE SECRET TO HER VOICE?

  • WHAT'S THE SECRET TO THE THATCHER?

  • >> WELL, SHE USED-- SHE WAS VERY BREATHY.

  • AND SO-- AND HER PITCH WAS A BIT LOWER THAN MINE.

  • AND SO-- AND, ALSO, THE WAY WHEN I-- WHEN I GO INTO HER, THERE'S

  • A WAY OF HOLDING-- HOLDING THE TEETH OVER THE LOWER LIP JUST A

  • LITTLE BIT.

  • AND, GO ON, STEPHEN.

  • JUST BREATHING OUT.

  • BREATHING OUT.

  • >> Stephen: BREATHING OUT...

  • >> BREATHING OUT.

  • >> Stephen: I'M MARGARET THATCHER.

  • >> AND TAKING A DEEP BREATH AND DON'T LET SOMEBODY ELSE COME IN.

  • DON'T INTERRUPT ME.

  • I WON'T LET YOU INTERRUPT ME DISPLU SOUND LIKE MARGARET

  • THATCHER.

  • I SOUND LIKE THE CRYPT KEEPER.

  • >> YOU LOOK A LITTLE LIKE A DUMMY.

  • YOU LOOK A LITTLE LIKE SOMEBODY HAS THEIR HAND UP YOUR TROUSERS.

  • >> Stephen: THAT SOUNDS DELIGHTFUL.

  • OLIVIA, I HAVE SPOKEN TO SOME OF YOUR COSTARS ABOUT HOW THEY FIND

  • THE ROYAL VOICE AS OPPOSED TO, SORT OF A STANDARD RECEIVED

  • QUEEN'S ENGLISH.

  • THE QUEEN DOESN'T SPEAK THE RECEIVE'S QUEEN'S ENGLISH, DOES

  • SHE?

  • >> R.P., WE CALL "RECEIVED PRONUNCIATION" WHICH IS HOW I

  • SUPPOSE I SPEAK AND GILLIAN SPEAKS.

  • I DON'T KNOW.

  • I'M PROBABLY THE WORST PERSON TO INTERVIEW ABOUT THIS.

  • I TRIED TO PAY ATTENTION BUT I DON'T REALLY RETAIN INFORMATION.

  • BUT I THINK I'M SORT OF AVERAGE ENGLISH SOUNDING, BUT, YES, THE

  • ROYALS HAVE A WHOLE OTHER LEVEL OF...

  • SPEAKING.

  • >> Stephen: HOW WOULD-- >> FOR EXAMPLE, CAN I TEACH YOU

  • HOW TO SAY "YES?" >> Stephen: YES.

  • >> IN THE QUEEN'S ENGLISH.

  • SO IF YOU SAY-- THIS IS WHAT-- SO WILLIAM CONQUER, WHO WAS OUR

  • INCREDIBLE VOICE TEACHER, HE GAVE ALL OF US THIS LITTLE TRICK

  • WHEN WE STARTED, MAINLY JUST TO MAKE US LEAVE.

  • IF YOU SAY E-A-R-S.

  • >> Stephen: EARS.

  • >> YES.

  • >> Stephen: I'M SORRY.

  • SAY IT AS THE QUEEN.

  • >> EARS.

  • ( LAUGHTER ).

  • >> Stephen: THIS IS MY QUEEN THATCHER ER.

  • >> THAT'S IT.

  • >> Stephen: THAT'S NICE.

  • >> THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

  • >> Stephen: GILLIAN, OBVIOUSLY, MARGARET THATCHER IS

  • THE IRON LADY, AND THE QUEEN, AT LEAST TO THOSE OF US WATCHING

  • FROM A DISTANCE OVER HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, SEEMS LOOK A

  • FIGURE A BIT CARVED IN MARBLE, VERY STADE, VERY PROPER.

  • NOW THAT YOU HAVE PLAYED THEM, I ASSUME THERE IS A MORE TENDER OR

  • HUMAN SIDE THAT YOU DIDN'T SEE BEFORE.

  • LIKE IS THE QUEEN-- DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO HEAR HER CALLED LILIBET

  • TO YOU NOW, AS PHILLIP CALLS HER?

  • >> WELL, YES, I THINK IT'S MORE-- I MEAN, I WOULD NEVER

  • DARE TO BE PRESUMPTIONUOUS ENOUGH TO SAY I KNOW, YOU KNOW,

  • HOW SHE FEELS.

  • I'M AN ACTOR SAYING WORDS, PRETENDING TO BE SOMEONE.

  • BUT SHE-- SHE'S OBVIOUSLY HUMAN, AND SHE'S BEEN FORCED INTO THIS

  • JOB THAT SHE WASN'T ACTUALLY MEANT TO DO.

  • IT WAS MEANT TO BE SOMEBODY ELSE.

  • AND SHE'S DONE IT WITH EXTRAORDINARY GUSTO AND DIGNITY

  • AND...

  • I DON'T KNOW.

  • I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT HER BEFORE, REALLY.

  • YOU KNOW, GROWING UP IN A PLACE WHERE THEY HAVE ALWAYS EXISTED,

  • YOU DON'T REALLY I THINK PAY ATTENTION TO IT AS MUCH AS

  • COUNTRY WHERE'S THEY DON'T HAVE A MONARCHY, WHICH IS REALLY

  • FASCINATING.

  • SO LEARNING ABOUT HER, I THINK-- I DON'T KNOW.

  • EVERYTHING I'M SAYING IS JUST MADE UP, BECAUSE I DONT KNOW.

  • SHE SEEMS LIKE A SWEET WOMAN WHO HAS MADE A VOW TO DO THIS JOB

  • AND IS DOING IT VERY WELL TO THE BEST OF HER ABILITIES, AND

  • CONSIDERING SHE WAS NEVER MEANT TO DO IT, I THINK SHE'S PRETTY

  • BLOODY MARVELOUS AT IT.

  • AND I THINK SHE'S NOT AS STONE AS SHE SEEMS, I THINK.

  • >> Stephen: AND WHAT ABOUT-- WHAT ABOUT THATCHER, GILLIAN?

  • BECAUSE-- >> THATCHER, ON THE OTHER HAND,

  • IS AS IRON AS SHE SEEMS, I THINK.

  • I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE WRITING IN "THE CROWN,"

  • PETER'S WRITING IS-- HE CREATES VERY THREE-DIMERCIAL CHARACTERS,

  • AND I THINK-- AT LEAST FOR ME, I ALWAYS FELT THAT THATCHER WAS--

  • WHAT I KNEW OF HER SEEMED TO BE QUITE TWO-DIMENSIONAL.

  • AND, YOU KNOW, "THE CROWN" IS REALLY WONDERFUL AT SHOWING

  • MANY, MANY DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE HUMAN BEINGS THAT THEY'RE--

  • THAT THE ACTORS GET TO PORTRAY.

  • SO, YOU KNOW, IN DOING THE RESEARCH THAT-- A LOT OF

  • RESEARCH FOR THATCHER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FEELS MOST

  • IMPORTANT IS TO KIND OF PUT PRECONCEPTIONS TO THE SIDE AND

  • START FROM SCRATCH BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF STRONG FEELINGS

  • IN THE U.K. ABOUT THE IRON LADY.

  • AND TO FIND A WAY INTO HER SO YOU GET TO UNDERSTAND HER BELIEF

  • SYSTEM AND & WHAT DROVE HER TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE

  • DID.

  • WHICH MEANS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT FIND SOME SYMPATHY FOR HER AND

  • SOME COMPASSION.

  • BUT AT LEAST, IF NOT THOSE THINGS, YOU AT LEAST FEEL THAT

  • YOU ARE...

  • CREATING A MORE THREE-DIMENSIONAL CHARACTER THAN

  • YOU MIGHT OTHERWISE WOULD WITHOUT DOING THAT WORK.

  • >> Stephen: LADIES WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK.

  • STICK AROUND EVERYBODY, WE'LL BE BACK WITH MORE OLIVIA COLMAN AND

  • GILLIAN ANDERSON.

  • I WILL ASK WHAT IT'S LIKE TO GO TO BUCKINGHAM PALACE AND MEET

  • THE FANCY PEOPLE.

♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY,

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