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  • EVERYTHING IN PERSPECTIVE, PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO THE SHOW,

  • DR. MICHAEL ERIC DYSON!

  • ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) HOW ARE YOU, MICHAEL?

  • ARE YOU WELL?

  • >> I'M DOING FINE, BROTHER JAMES.

  • ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE YOU AND HANG OUT WITH YOU A BIT, MY MAN.

  • >> James: IT'S ALWAYS LOVELY TO SEE YOU AND I'VE LOVED OUR

  • TEXT AND EXCHANGES THE FIRST TIME YOU WERE BACK ON THE SHOW

  • AND WE WERE SO KEEN TO GET YOU HERE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN AN

  • INCREDIBLE WEEK, WITH MANY TWISTS AND TURNS IN THIS

  • ELECTION.

  • WHAT'S IT BEEN LIKE FOR YOU WATCHING EVERYTHING UNFOLD THIS

  • WEEK?

  • >> YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY NAILS LEFT BUT I'M TRYING TO EAT WHAT

  • I HAVE LEFT.

  • IT'S BEEN AN EXTRAORDINARY LESSON -- CIVICS LESSON FOR SO

  • MANY PEOPLE WHO DON'T REALIZE THIS IS HOW IT ALL GOES DOWN

  • BECAUSE WE ARE HYPERFOCUSED RIGHT NOW, WE'RE VERY NERVOUS.

  • THERE'S A LOT AT STAKE, THERE'S A CIVIL WAR GOING ON, THE

  • BATTLEFIELD IS THE SOUL OF AMERICA.

  • THE POLITICS ARE HIGHLY PITCHED.

  • THE IDEOLOGIES ARE HIGHLY CONTESTED, AND PEOPLE ARE

  • FEELING VERY SANCTION AND YET, AT THE SAME TIME, FOR THE MOST

  • PART, THIS IS WHAT GOES ON EVERY TIME.

  • IT TAKES SEVERAL DAYS TO A WEEK TO STEAMS TWO WEEKS -- SOMETIMES

  • TWO WEEKS, PEOPLE FIGURING THE VOTES OUT, BUT USUALLY SOMEBODY

  • HAS CONCEDED, SOMEBODY HAS CLAIMED VICTORY AND WE CAN MOVE

  • ON.

  • NOW BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH AT STAKE, PEOPLE ARE RATHER MORE

  • ANXIOUS ABOUT THE OUTCOME AND INVESTED IN A WAY WE'RE NOT

  • USUSUALLY SEEING AT LEAST OVER T LAST 20 YEARS.

  • >> James: YOU TWEETED YESTERDAY A BRILLIENT TWEET ON

  • BEHALF OF BLACK PEOPLE EVERYWHERE, YOU'RE WELCOME,

  • AMERICA, WHICH I LOVE.

  • >> YEAH.

  • >> James: EXPLAIN TO ME HOW IMPORTANT THE BLACK VOTE HAS

  • BEEN IN THIS ELECTION.

  • >> OH, IT'S BEEN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

  • THE BLACK VOTE HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THROUGH SO

  • MANY ELECTIONS BUT RARELY ACKNOWLEDGED, BARELY RECOGNIZED,

  • EVEN AMONG, QUITE FRANKLY, THE DEMOCRATS, TO WHOM BLACK PEOPLE

  • ARE RELIABLY COMMITTED AND LOYAL.

  • BUT THERE'S BEEN A NEGLIGENCE ON THE PART OF THE REPUBLICANS AND

  • A KIND OF TAKING FOR GRANTED ON THE PARTS TO HAVE THE DEMOCRATS,

  • BUT THIS ELECTION SHOWED US, LOOK AT THE BIG STATES.

  • YOU HAD MICHIGAN, DETROIT'S POPULATION IS 79% BLACK.

  • THEY WERE THE KEY VOTER THERE.

  • LOOK AT GEORGIA, ATLANTA IS 52% BLACK.

  • LOOK AT PENNSYLVANIA, PHILADELPHIA IS 42% BLACK.

  • AND LOOK AT WISCONSIN, MILWAUKEE IS 39% BLACK.

  • WHEN YOU PUT THAT IN AGGREGATE ALONG WITH THE FACT BLACK WOMEN

  • BLEW IT OUT OF THE WATER VOTING IN THE HIGH 90s FOR THIS

  • TICKET AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN PEOPLE IN GENERAL WERE DEEPLY

  • COMMITTED TO IT DESPITE THE VOTER SUPPRESSION, THE ATTEMPTS

  • TO HAVE ROBO CALLS TO DISSUADE THEM OR MISINFORMATION AND THE

  • ATTEMPTS BY MANY GOVERNORS OF SOUTHERN CITIES TO SUPPRESS THE

  • VOTE AND THROW PEOPLE OFF THE ROLLS, DESPITE ALL THAT, WE

  • SHOWED UP AND SHOWED OUT AND DID AN EXTRAORDINARY JOB.

  • AND BLACK WOMEN IN PARTICULAR HAVE BEEN USED TO SAVING THIS

  • DEMOCRACY AND THE BLACK VOTE DID IT AGAIN.

  • >> James: AS FROM THE MOMENT WE'RE TAPING,

  • VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN IS WINNING IN GEORGIA, A STATE THAT HASN'T

  • VOTED BLUE SINCE I THINK 1992.

  • >> RIGHT.

  • >> James: IT FEELS INCREDIBLY SIGNIFICANT TO ME.

  • CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE ROLE STACEY ABAMS HAS PLAYED.

  • >> STACEY ABRAMS HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE.

  • EVEN THOUGH SHE DEFLECTS ATTENTION UPON HERSELF, SHE HAS

  • BEEN EXTRAORDINARY.

  • SHE HAN FOR GOVERNOR LAST TIME AROUND, THE SITTING SECRETARY OF

  • STATE IN AN UNCONSCIONABLE SITUATION, PURGED SOMETHING LIKE

  • 500,000 PEOPLE OFF THE GEORGIA VOTING ROLES, A DISPROPORTION

  • THAT NUMBER OF WHOM ARE BLACK, AND STACEY ABRAMS, WHEN SHE LOST

  • BY A RAZOR MARGIN, SAID I'M NOT GOING TO CRY IN MY BEER OR CRY

  • OVER SPILLED MILK, I'M GOING TO ACTIVATE, I'M GOING TO BECOME AN

  • ORGANIZER.

  • NOT ONLY DID SHE RESTORE 500,000 PEOPLE, SHE ADDED ANOTHER

  • 300,000 IN TERMS OF REGISTERING TO VOTE FOR AN AGGREGATE OF

  • 800,000 PEOPLE.

  • SHE DID THIS IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

  • THE GROUND GAME WAS EXTRAORDINARY AND SHE WAS

  • WORKING DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

  • THIS IS NOT THE SEXY STUFF.

  • THIS IS NOT APPEARING ON TELEVISION.

  • THIS IS NOT MAKING SPEECHES.

  • THIS IS NOT ORGANIZING PEOPLE IN THE SPOTLIGHT.

  • THIS IS THE UNSEXY, EVERYDAY WORK OF TRYING TO GET PEOPLE

  • TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN GET REGISTERED TO VOTE.

  • SO IN THAT SENSE SHE WAS CARRYING FORWARD ANOTHER PERSON

  • IN HER STATE THE GREAT JOHN LEWIS WHO DIED THIS YEAR, AND

  • ISN'T IT INTERESTING AND WOULDN'T IT BE REMARKABLE THAT

  • IT WOULD BECOME GEORGIA, AND IT'S NOW ABOUT WHAT, 4,000

  • SOME -- 4,000 VOTES THAT MR. BIDEN IS AHEAD, WOULDN'T IT

  • BE INTERESTING THAT GEORGIA WOULD PLAY A SIGNIFICANT ROLE

  • WITH THE DEATH OF JOHN LEWIS WHO LITERALLY GOT BEATEN AND NEARLY

  • BEAT TO DEATH FOR TRYING TO VOTE, SACRIFICING HIS BODY LIMB

  • BY LIMB TO MAKE SURE THAT BLACK PEOPLE COULD VOTE AND NOW THIS

  • OUTCOME IS ESPECIALLY DELICIOUS AND EXTRAORDINARILY UPLIFTING.

  • ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> James: IT REALLY IS.

  • I MEAN, IN AMONGST THIS WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON WITH TRUMP

  • AND THE VOTE COUNTS AND WHEN WILL IT BE CALLED AND ALL THESE

  • THINGS, IT FEELS SOMEHOW THAT -- THAT WE'RE MISSING THE FACT THAT

  • WE MIGHT HAVE THE FIRST FEMALE AND PERSON OF COLOR

  • VICE PRESIDENT EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY.

  • IS THIS -- DID YOU EVER EXPECT TO SEE THIS HAPPEN IN YOUR

  • LIFETIME?

  • >> I MEAN, FIRST, WE HAD BARACK OBAMA.

  • WE NEVER EXPECTED THAT.

  • BUT TO SEE A BLACK WOMAN IN A POSITION OF SUCH EXTRAORDINARY

  • AUTHORITY -- NOW, JAMES CORDEN, I'M A BLACK MAN.

  • THAT MEANS BLACK WOMEN ALREADY RUN MY LIFE.

  • SO I'M USED TO WHAT AMERICA IS GOING TO GET USED TO, THAT BLACK

  • WOMEN WITH POISE, DECENCY AND EXCELLENCE AND SPIRIT WILL

  • EXERCISE A LEVEL OF AUTHORITY.

  • AND KAMALA HARRIS I HAVE KNOWN FOR YEARS AND YEARS, AND TO HAVE

  • THE FIRST BLACK AND SOUTHEAST ASIAN WOMAN AS PART OF OUR

  • AMERICAN POLITICAL ORDER, THAT SHE HAS ASCENDED THIS HIGH INTO

  • THE AMERICAN CASTE IS A REMARKABLE THING AND I THINK SHE

  • WILL PROVIDE, I THINK, INCREDIBLE LEADERSHIP AND PROVE

  • TO BE A WORTHY SUPPORTER FOR HOPEFULLY AND I THINK WE CAN

  • PREDICT IT WILL BE THE CASE THAT JOE BIDEN WILL BE THE PRESIDENT

  • OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

  • ( APPLAUSE ) >> James: THERE'S SO MUCH TO

  • FEEL OPTIMISTIC ABOUT IN EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING, AND I

  • KNOW THAT YOU'VE MET PRESIDENT TRUMP BEFORE, AND I'M

  • INTERESTED TO KNOW IF YOU COULD GET FIVE MINUTES WITH HIM NOW,

  • WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO HIM IN THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW?

  • >> I WOULD SAY, SIR, DESPITE YOUR MANIFEST GIFTS OF

  • COMMUNICATION, AND WHAT EVERYONE CAN SAY ABOUT DONALD TRUMP, THE

  • ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE HIS IDEAL AND TO GALVANIZE HIS BASE AND TO

  • MOTIVE THEM, EVEN IF TO HORRIBLE EFFECT AND DELETERIOUS

  • CONSEQUENCE, THE POINT IS HE HAS GOT THOSE GIFTS.

  • I WOULD SAY TO HIM, SIR, YOU WASTED SO MUCH TIME.

  • YOU WERE A BIRTHER AGAINST PRESIDENT OBAMA.

  • YOU HAVE SAID HORRIBLE THINGS AGAINST AFRICAN COUNTRIES AND

  • CARIBBEAN COUNTRIES.

  • YOU HAVE DEMONIZED THE OTHER.

  • YOU HAVE TURNED THIS COUNTRY INTO A HORRIBLE CESSPOOL OF

  • BIGOTRY.

  • YOU HAVE STOOD UP EVERY MORNING TO EXCRETE THE FECES OF YOUR

  • MORAL DEPRAVITY.

  • >>> AT THIS INTO A NATION YOU'VE TURNED INTO YOUR PSYCHIC

  • COMMODE, AND HOW TRAGIC THAT IS.

  • YOU HAVE TAKEN THIS GREAT LEGACY OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY AND USED

  • IT AS A FOOTSTOOL FOR YOUR PERSONAL ENRICHMENT AND FOR THE

  • ENLARGEMENT OF YOUR EGO.

  • THIS IS NOT WHAT GREAT LEADERS DO.

  • AND THE REASON I STOOD IN PLACE TO SUPPORT JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA

  • HARRIS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL BRING AND RESTORE TO

  • AMERICAN DEMOCRACY A DECENCY AND A RESPECT FOR THE OTHER, AND

  • THEY WON'T USE THEIR BULLY PULPIT TO BEAT UP ON THE TRUMP

  • SUPPORTERS.

  • WE ARE DIVIDED AS A NATION.

  • WE HAVE HORRIBLE CIVIL WARS GOING ON RIGHT WHERE WE ARE.

  • THE POINT IS NOT TO POINT TO THEM AND SAY, AH-HA, YOU BIGOTS,

  • YOU WERE STIGMATIZING PEOPLE OF COLOR.

  • NO, LET'S FIND THE RESOURCES TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

  • LET'S OVERCOME THE NASTINESS, THE BITTERNESS AND BELLIGERENCE

  • AND FORM A NATION.

  • HOW ABOUT THE MODEL OF AMERICA, E PLURIBUS UNUM, OUT OF MANY

  • ONE.

  • THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT TO DO, AND I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT

  • OPPORTUNITY WITH JOE BIDEN AS PRESIDENT AND KAMALA HARRIS AS

  • VICE PRESIDENT TO DO JUST THAT.

  • ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ) >> James: IT IS ALWAYS SO

  • ENLIGHTENING TO TALK TO YOU ANYTIME YOU ARE IN OUR ORBIT,

  • YOU MAKE ALL OF US FEEL A LITTLE LIGHTER, A LITTLE MORE

  • OPTIMISTIC.

  • THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FINDING THE TIME TO TALK TO US TODAY.

  • WE LOVE IT EVERY TIME YOU'RE ON THE SHOW, AND I HOPE THAT YOU

  • WILL KEEP COMING BACK AND KEEP COMING BACK.

  • PROFESSOR THEISSAN'S NEW BOOK, "LONG TIME COMING: RECKONING

  • WITH RACE IN AMERICA"," IS AVAILABLE FOR PRE-ORDER RIGHT

  • NOW.

  • IT IS MORE THAN WORTHY OF YOUR TIME.

  • DR. MICHAEL ERIC DYSON, EVERYBODY.

  • WHEN WE COME BACK, TALKING TO HENRY GOLDING.

  • STICK AROUND, EVERYONE!

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