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  • but like, is it a must win for the optics for Aaron Rodgers?

  • Yeah, like you know, it's not gonna look good for him now.

  • If he loses, I can't call it a must win.

  • Damien.

  • Not in that division.

  • Not with the Bears offensive line.

  • Vikings.

  • That's a divisional rivalry.

  • The Vikings played in tough.

  • They usually dio, and they've already split that.

  • Anyway.

  • Lines ain't doing anything now.

  • It's not a must win.

  • It's a good idea toe win.

  • You know, the fact of the matter is, we have not seen good idea to win your hilarious way you are good at.

  • It's not like you should lose.

  • Is that how you are mad in tournaments?

  • Go to five and three, that they're not gonna make the playoffs?

  • They're gonna make the playoffs.

  • Packers making playoffs This year.

  • The issue is last year without a defense, right, and without all these weapons, they went 13 and three.

  • Rogers had the worst year of his career.

  • They went 13 and three.

  • Now, Rogers comfortable with the offense.

  • The reason it's looked choppy is when was the last time he had back Thierry and Aaron and Jones and Davante Adams just not just coming backwards, trying to force him the ball right against the Bucks defense, but all on the field with some continuity, Like even then, they may not have the defense toe win the whole thing, but damn, when they had all those guys together, it was like, Oh, Aaron Rodgers and the Packers.

  • That's the best team in the NFC.

  • That's how good they are when they have all their players when they get some continuity.

  • If that's not them right now, that's all right.

  • Teams evolve over the course of the season.

  • Ah, lot of times it's among the elite teams who are healthiest towards the playoffs.

  • Those are the teams that go on the run.

  • So, no, I'm not going to say, you know, Week eight, you lose a game.

  • Uh, because you're because you're missing a few guys because you're not in rhythm because you hit a low in your season.

  • I'm not gonna call that a must win game.

  • No, I disagree, man.

  • I disagree, And I think part of the reason why you know myself why I disagree is, you know, during my time with New England, one thing we always used to preach coach ability.

  • You always preach.

  • Start playing your best ball in November, December Right now, right now, with teams usually start the Pretenders and contend to start start separating themselves OK.

  • And the one thing we saw from the Greek Packers Max last week Calvin Crook just e mean help them boys.

  • I mean, he ran 463 yards.

  • That has just been and Achilles here, going back toe.

  • Last year we saw that in the NFC championship game, when they just ran the 40 Niners ran over around through the Green Bay Packers, and I've always said we talked about Aaron Rodgers and his weapons.

  • And yes, he, you know, Davante Adams have been herding Alan Lazar.

  • They're still waiting for those guys to kind of get back.

  • But when you get into this time of year, as much as we talked about the passing game, you have to be able to stop the run.

  • That's like one of the fundamental things that you have to do at this time of year.

  • And that's one issue that the Packers just seemed like.

  • They can't figure it out.

  • They can't figure out how to stop the run.

  • And if you're going up against off San Francisco, 40 Niners team would basically their whole roster is either on the Coben list or out for the year injury if they can't stop the run.

  • Because we know one thing that Kyle Shanahan can do he know how to design runs?

  • He No, I don't lose the game Losing game is supposed todo if they lose a game.

  • First of all, Chicago Bears right there.

  • I don't care what you say about I know people don't believe in Chicago Bears quarterback, but the fact of the matter is their civic.

  • Are you saying that five is great, but Max that they got match?

  • There's still 53 Where does that leave the Green Bay Packers?

  • When you lose to the 40 Niners, Max, if you lose to the 49 this is more psychological.

  • If you can't, you can't you get onto the technology.

  • Say it again.

  • You have time to get over Max when you have, when you have, when you lose to a team that's has decimated as the 40 Niners, you right, but not yet.

  • Absolutely, but absolutely could be.

  • But it's not necessarily we've seen Aaron Rodgers guarantee he's gonna go to the playoffs and rack up 78 straight wins.

  • Like you know, this dude can get hot.

  • And if the Packers get healthy and start clicking, Look, I agree with you about stopping like one of the reasons I like Seattle in the preseason was they made the trade for Jamal Adams, right?

  • The Green Bay Packers and do anything like that.

  • So I thought, OK, it's, uh, I like Seattle.

  • That was before the Bucks got everyone in the world on their roster.

  • I still don't like Green Bay to win the Super Bowl, because what because of what you mentioned.

  • But we saw them last year without a defense, right and and not as good as they have been early this season, because Rodgers has the offense more figured out in his second year under the floor.

  • We saw them last year when 13 games and beat Seattle in the playoffs, so we're in the NFC.

  • So what are they playing for?

  • Are we talking about right now?

  • So you're saying, get things clicking, they're gonna go to the post season.

  • They're not gonna go to the Super Bowl, so I'm saying, like, if you're talking about is, do you put this in the plus or the minus column?

  • If they lose, the miners could get it.

  • But no, no, But here's what you here's what you fail to realize you're the Green Bay Packers.

  • Last week, you play at home against the Minnesota Vikings, you get your teeth kicked in against the Let's be frank in inferior opponent in Minnesota Vikings.

  • Then you come back.

  • You're playing on in prime time on Thursday on Thursday night against a very depleted 49 football football team.

  • You go out here and you get your teeth kicked in again against the 40 Niners.

  • Max, I know how these things these things tend to snowball in the inside of locker room.

  • You go back to back weeks, you lose this game against the 40 Niners you're supposed to have.

  • We're supposed to you.

  • If your agreement back, you're supposed to be before you have we not seen the Packers come on late at the end of season because Aaron Rodgers gets hot, were determined.

  • We've seen it before, and I know how long did you play in the league?

  • How many Super bowl rings.

  • Do you have you got to?

  • You got two rings.

  • You played 12 years in the league.

  • Not only did I play in Madden franchise mode, but I have one e 00 my God against the machine.

  • Care about tonight conversation.

  • I want to know.

  • Green Bag Max Green Bay.

  • More like to be more likely to be one and done in the playoffs or win the Super Bowl.

  • If it's either or I'll take Super Bowl over one and done in the playoffs.

  • 01 and done one and done at the end of day, you still is greatest.

  • Aaron Rodgers is Can't start to run.

  • You're not.

  • You're not gonna events for in the players, especially.

  • I'll take that if they don't win the division.

  • Like if they're playing in a wild card game or they're gonna win the wild card game and they could win a game after that.

  • If they win outright, like if they have a buy and they're just if they earn a by and maybe one and done because at that point you're in the NFC championship game and you're likely to lose their than winning the Super Bowl chances What's the chance of them getting by?

  • Because Onley number one seed gets abolished, right?

  • Therefore, e I like them, you know, with an extra round.

  • I like them to at least win that game and the next game versus Blue, you know?

  • And I think that's more likely.

  • It doesn't matter, though.

  • That's his.

  • Yeah, he played a prime time.

  • Everyone will be watching, but it doesn't matter where they beat him in the NFC championship game.

  • It doesn't matter.

  • Yeah, you know how we owe right mindset?

  • Yeah.

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but like, is it a must win for the optics for Aaron Rodgers?

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