We're so used to watching the wind, having New England watch teams and go, they'll be the team that commits the penalties and they'll be the team that doesn't make the adjustment.

And then we'll be the team that wins the game with that 1st 3rd quarter driver.

And that never happened.

That's why I go.

That has the fallen coaching.

Yeah, you could say it has to fall on coaching, and I guess you can't absolve Bill Belichick.

You have a point there, but I think you used the wrong reasoning or rationale, or you're just pinpointing yesterday's game and just sticking to that.

If you want to sit up there.

Look, I was looking at something yesterday, uh, Max and Mollie, and then I was over my boy Jeff's house, and we were like, we were wondering, Where was D?

K.

Metcalf?

Drafted D.

K.

Metcalf was d, came it.

Hold on.

D K.

Metcalf was drafted number 64 64 in the draft.

That same draft, A J.

Brown, was drafted 13 slots ahead at number 51.

The New England Patriots had the 37 the 32nd pick, the very last pick off the of that of that particular draft that year.

And who did they pick?

Nick Eel?

Harry.

So guess what If you want to blame Bill Belichick for something blaming for that because that's part of the part of the reason why Tom Brady didn't mind leaving and Tom Brady couldn't be convinced to stay, wants him once.

Bill Belichick, quote unquote, wouldn't kiss the ring because, just like Tom Brady's got six rings.

He's got six as a head coach and eight overall as a coach in the National Football League.

But what I would say to you, Dan, is this.

When you look at the New England Patriots, what did you expect?

And that's what we have to pay attention to when you take it from a liberal perspective because there's so many components to the game of football, right?

Fair enough.

What I'm saying is Cam Cam new and you decided to go to New England.

Man, Who are you succeeding Tom Brady?

And what are we accustomed to seeing Tom Brady do?

Close finish the deal and yesterday was one of those situations.

You down 24 21 you're not down 32 7 or something like that, you're down three point, you're already in field goal range, you have an opportunity to close and you fumble the ball.

Stephen A.

That's the point.

That's true.

And as I said, the Brady, it never went off the rails.

If you look at Cam Newton and you want to make the case, this is a different in a good season, a bad season coming through in a goal line situation where you're trying to punch the ball in the Seahawks, stop you fumbling when you could have a great comeback against division leading Bills like then they'd have wins they before and three right, and they didn't have a winning record.

And they have wins against not only those two teams, the Seahawks and Bills.

Don't forget they've already beaten the Raiders.

And who else they have another good win this year.

I'm forgetting off top my head, Um, but it was, I think, the Dolphins right, but anyway, don't pretty good win so so that they would be having a successful season.

It is those moments that can change the difference.

The difference between having a successful C to being a great quarterback and a season falling apart.

But that's not the same thing as saying it's all cams fault.

He's over.

He's unable to overcome all the problems that Dan, for example, pointed out, But that's not saying it's his fault by the West.

Michelle Sony.

Michelle was drafted before Nick Chubb.

Like, you know, there have been mistakes in the draft.

All teams make them.

But with Cam, he put them in a position he helped put them in a position.

In fact, I'm holding them accountable for not closing.

I'm holding accountable is not I'm not Max Kellerman.

I'm holding him accountable for not closing because at the end of the day is Glenn is Glenn.

Glad is Glengarry Glen Ross.

You know that movie with Alec boys, Greatest open and see Always be closing.

Always be closing, get it done.

And if you don't get it done, I gotta, of course, the 60 Minutes and Special Teams Defense Office.

But I have a right toe.

Look at you and say You're succeeding, Tom Brady.

You rolled up in New England, you could have waited and ended up going somewhere else.

Even though the Carolina Panthers screwed you by letting you go later.

All I know that I understand Tom Brady have a team leader, but you held it against Tom Clothe Cliff and then the ravine and all of this other stuff.

You held it against Tom Brady when he clearly didn't have much.

I'm saying your clothes hold on.

You good enough to be right there?

I did point out that Brady was older and he couldn't make lemonade out of lemons quite the same way he could when he was younger.

And I took that decline, however.

Cam Newton, however, Cam Newton takes Brady's team from the last couple seasons take away the defense, which is like why they were winning, right?

Not just Brady performing in high leverage moments but the defense.

Take away whatever offense you had.

Give Cam Cove it don't let him practice for a couple weeks and still to plays away from being four and three against the elite teams in the NFL.

You mean Torto?

Last year after last week, if he had done this, when he first came back from Covert, you got a point.

But since he was so God awful and then he improved yesterday.

I'm saying close.

That's all I'm saying.

Closed you right there.

Close the deal.

You were good enough to be closed.

Closed?

Uh, Steven, it that's fair.

But they're in the position to close because of the way he played yesterday.

I've been critical of since he came back of his play.

It has not been good, but yesterday was his best game since Yeah, like over 230 yards of.

But at the end of the day, like you have to close because your defense can't get off the field.

You have to close because you couldn't do anything.

The 1st 24 21 of these penalties 24 21 Was it 24?

21?

Was Was he not in position to win the game?

Yes or no?

Yes.

The clothes.

Damn it!

Question Stephen A.

The question is, did Kim not closed it?

Was he the reason for the loss that he was e my name?

Heard it.

My last name is not Orlowski.

I'm Stephen e said to you.

I said you, Yo, you there to close close the deal.

I have a right to sit up there and say yo you didn't close.

You didn't finish the deal, Period.

There's nothing damn excuses.

What do you think they're gonna do when they find from you?

Look at his record.

Is that gonna look at half productions?

When I would point out the defense was carrying the Patriots, you would point out Brady has no weapons because we had any weapons that Brady had.

Take them.

Really?

Compare this.

You sounded like you were.

Excuse me.

Take away any weapons Brady had.

And also take away the defense.

Excuse me.

Can have.

Listen, there can.

What did I say?

Yes.

What is this?

Friday, Friday, Friday, Jacoby and Meyers.

Not Jacoby Meyers Coming in my law firm.

What did I say?

I said, Listen, way love Camp Cam is a great athlete.

Cam is a former league M V P.

But the vast majority of his career he was completed 60% of his passes.

He doesn't always be closing.

That is true.

Thanks for watching ESPN on YouTube for live streaming sports and premium content.