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  • business like but never a meeting of minds.

  • Never soulmates descendants off wholly different labor traditions on now, a potentially irreversible split after remove unseen in the post war period.

  • The party suspending its previous leader who had challenged or perhaps mis read his successor on his response.

  • Tow anti Semitism.

  • This morning, the Equality and Human Rights Commission published their final report in tow.

  • Anti Semitism in the Labor Party.

  • Kier Starmer had issued a clear declaration at his response to the report.

  • No place in labor for anyone who thinks that anti Semitism is exaggerated or caused by factional fighting.

  • On That was exactly what the former Labor leader appeared to say on his Facebook page before Secure had even got to his feet.

  • One anti Semite is one too many, but the scale of the problem was also dramatically overstated for political reasons by our opponents inside and outside the party, as well as by much of the media.

  • Those remarks were enough to suspend Jeremy Corbyn on this afternoon, Kier Starmer reinforced his message of the day.

  • I made it clear that we won't tolerate anti Semitism or the denial of anti Semitism through the suggestion that it's exaggerated or factional.

  • And that's why I was disappointed with Jeremy Corbyn's response.

  • And that is why appropriate action has been taken, which I fully support.

  • His successor is standing firm.

  • What are we doing is appealing to the party and those that have made this decision to kindly think again.

  • Turbulence and infighting.

  • They're some of the polite er terms to describe a century off the Labor Party's history from political wing off the trade union movement, toe opposition in parliament to government on back again.

  • But never before in the modern era has a new leadership taken the monumental risk of casting out its immediate predecessor, who still has a strong base of support in the party on Beyond.

  • This is not a fight that Kier Starmer chose.

  • But it is a fight he's prepared to take on to ensure that the words anti Semitism are never again mentioned in the same breath as his party.

  • A Nikon IQ figure from the Blair era who fell foul of the Corbyn leadership on Brexit, believes the former labor leader made serious mistakes.

  • It wasn't exactly dismissive, but nor was he kind of accepting of the thrust of it.

  • And I think when you read the report, it's horrific.

  • It is.

  • Actually, I first of all, watch the headlines on it.

  • And then I read it, and I'd say that one of those rare occasions where the real thing was worse than the way it was being presented by the media.

  • Um, and I think that therefore I think that I mean kids.

  • He's clearly decided that there could be no conciliation with the issue on the terrible handling off it that there's Bean over the last few years.

  • A supporter of Jeremy Corbyn is dismayed.

  • I could hardly express the actual horror this on a personal basis on a much wider basis.

  • The horror is there is Jeremy on anti racist Ah, very good man, A man with principles, a man who lead the Labor Party.

  • Some people would say, very wrongly, very poorly, people like me.

  • It was the period when the Labor Party stood for the things I believe in most.

  • I'm very worried for the Labor Party if somebody suspended when they board here defending their position and saying what they think was true about the anti Semitism campaign about how he conducted the uh, the process to eliminate anti Semitism to be suspended.

  • For that, that's a form of internal dictatorship.

  • That's very, very scary.

  • You know, not a man for sentimentality in the political arena, ruthlessness even towards a predecessor still revered by many.

  • Well, Nick joins us now a very big move.

  • Bold move by Kier Starmer Well, Kier Starmer knows that a decision of historic proportions was made today.

  • Now friends are saying that the day didn't end as he thought the day would end.

  • And they're saying, Look, he is not a purge.

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  • He's a unified, but he's not a unified at any price.

  • And essentially, what they're saying is that the price is obviously going to be paid.

  • But the greater cost is in not acting.

  • And if you set a series of tests as he as he has done, you have got to meet them on what allies are saying allies, you care.

  • So I'm saying, Look, he was consulted on the suspension off Jeremy Corbyn from the party and the removal of the whip, but those decisions were made by the general secretary, David Evans, and the chief whip, Nick Brown.

  • Jeremy Corbyn, up for a fight.

  • Well, the Corbyn count had a big seminar tonight.

  • Some are calling it a Council of War.

  • Len McCluskey was there.

  • John McDonnell was their shame.

  • Us.

  • Milne was there on the atmosphere was not help.

  • When Jeremy Corbyn was told of his suspension by a cameraman who had gone toe record his response to the report, the cameraman saw it on Twitter and said, What do you think of this on Jeremy Corbyn said.

  • What now?

  • In the Corbyn camp, They do not accept this explanation that Kier Starmer was at arm's length from the decision.

  • They're saying this is the most consequential administrative decision made by the Labor Party in Mawr than 30 years on.

  • It has the potential to cause a very deep on serious split, but they are hoping for a reconciliation.

  • They are looking for common ground in three areas.

  • So the first one is Maybe there's a benign explanation of care.

  • Stormers Response to Jeremy Corbyn's remarks.

  • Maybe they heard Jeremy Corbyn denying the existence of anti Semitism when in fact, what he was saying is, I'm really a really serious opponent of anti Semitism.

  • But it's been exaggerated about how many people in the Labor Party have bean under investigation.

  • The second area of common ground is that Jeremy Corbyn, they say, did say that the reports, uh recommendations should be implemented in full on the third era of common ground is that Jeremy Corbyn and Kier Starmer do agree on the social justice agenda.

  • But some signs of division on the left.

  • I know that at least five members of the Socialist Campaign Group of MPs they agreed yesterday sent a message into their group, which includes Jeremy Corbyn, saying we should read the report.

  • We should digest the report on we should keep our counsel for the moment on.

  • One member of that group said to me it is very unfortunate that Jeremy Corbyn decided to speak out so quickly.

  • Nick, thank you very much indeed.

  • Well, we did ask Jeremy Corbyn for an interview, but he declined.

  • Earlier this evening, I spoke to Labour's deputy leader, Angela Rayner, and started by asking for her reaction to the E.

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  • Report for me is a member of the Labor Party.

  • For many years I think it was devastating, and I urge every labor member to read that report and to reflect upon that and today should be about those people who are faced in direct discrimination and harassment on what we're going to do to change that on as care said.

  • And I want to reiterate as the deputy leader of the Labor Party, my sincere apologies to people will face that harassment and discrimination.

  • You were shadow education secretary, which is a senior post during a period when the report said the leadership chose not to tackle anti Semitism.

  • Do you feel personally that you failed in a position of leadership in the party?

  • I think we all failed.

  • There was a collective failure and that's what the report said.

  • Andi.

  • I tried at the time to raise concerns that were being raised to me with allegations.

  • The whole shadow cabinet members of the shadow Cabinet did that at the time, including Jeremy.

  • Jeremy's acknowledged he raised these concerns on.

  • Things were not.

  • Things were not done in a way that, you know, stopped us from getting in the position that we're in today and therefore that's incredibly devastating for all of us, and I accept my responsibility is part of that leadership because you told the BBC today that Jeremy Corbyn has an absolute blind spot and a denial when it comes to some of these issues, what does that mean?

  • What I mean by that is that we cannot mitigate any farm off anti Semitism in the Liberal Party even though it's one instances too many on therefore some of the comments that have been made about well, this is a small issue in the Labor Party.

  • Any issue of anti Semitism in the Labor Party is something that you were saying.

  • He has an absolute blind spot.

  • You said it quite clearly.

  • He has an absolute blind spot.

  • What is that?

  • I believe that the statement around the small numbers and to suggest that it's a small number in the Labor Party, whilst that might be true is completely unacceptable.

  • To not understand the hurt on the distress that people are feeling that it is not about the numbers, it's about the devastation of being found to have acted unlawfully in harassment and discrimination of people on anti Semitism grounds.

  • Your colleagues shadow cabinet calling Lisa Nandy has said tonight she doesn't know anymore if Jeremy Corbyn is anti Semitic, do you?

  • I don't believe that Jeremy Corbyn is anti Semitic.

  • So you disagree with, I think that I think that Jeremy Corbyn has spent his whole life trying to fight against all forms of racism and anti Simpson on.

  • I think that's why I believe is he cannot bring himself to think that the party that he was leading led to an increase in anti Semitism complaints.

  • But that is what the findings of the HRC reports, and that's what we've got to ensure.

  • Today.

  • The scale of anti Semitism is dramatically been overstated by opponents for political reasons.

  • He profoundly disagrees with this report on Daz.

  • Such puts himself odds with customer does.

  • He put himself odds with you.

  • I think he's wrong.

  • I think he's wrong to say that.

  • I think the report is quite clear that there was complaints on that.

  • Those complaints should have been dealt with more swiftly on that people were allowed to thrive in the Labor Party with anti Semitic views.

  • I don't believe that Jeremy Corbyn is anti Semitic, bought the findings of the report today absolutely stark.

  • It's very clear that really up that will upset people what you're saying tonight you're saying clearly that that Jeremy Corbyn is no antisemitic.

  • If in that case why does he not wholeheartedly support this report?

  • Like I say, I think Jeremy Corbyn's got blind spot and I think he's wrong.

  • I think he's wrong and I think he should reflect on that and I think we all have to.

  • That's what I'm saying.

  • The HRT was very clear.

  • That was a collective failure of leadership on.

  • We all have to reflect on that.

  • The co chair of Momentum and Andrew Scattergood said tonight the suspension of Jeremy Corbyn was a massive attack on the left by the new leadership.

  • Have you lost the left today?

  • I think the suspension of Jeremy Corbyn was a decision that was made by the general secretary because actually today what we should have been focusing on is the hurt and upset that people was the right decision to suspend him.

  • I think it was a decision that was made by the party was right to do that.

  • It was right for the party to take that decision.

  • If the the illegal and governance unit felt that it met that threshold, then it's absolutely right for them to take that decision on I support them in taking that decision.

  • But what's important is that we can't politically interfere with that decision because that's exactly what the HRC said we shouldn't do.

  • But I support the party under the legal governance unit in taking robust action far, far from momentum.

  • Len McCluskey as cold Jeremy Corbyn suspension an act of grave injustice.

  • It will compromise Labour's chances of a general election victory if Jeremy Corbyn suspension is not reversed.

  • Is he right?

  • We shouldn't be politically interfering with that part of that process.

  • But what I will say is the Labor Party will never govern in this country.

  • If we do not understand the hurt, the upset on the distress that we've caused to people, there are indirect discrimination and therefore we have to act on.

  • We have to redeem ourselves as a labor party there for every single one of us, have to accept that leadership challenge and have to implement full those recommendations.

  • But Len McCluskey is saying is a grave active injustice, this one man who had apologized last week for seeing a newsnight that Peter Mandelson should counties gold.

  • Do you condemn the language of the leader of Unite, one of labor's biggest financial backers.

  • Well, let McClusky apologize and quite rightly so for that comment.

  • And actually it shows how that can really stray into tropes and the indirect discrimination that people have felt.

  • And therefore I think we all should reflect on that.

  • The reality is for many Jews in the last four years, labor's anti Semitism crisis.

  • They've been genuinely frightened to be seen as being openly Jewish on they have faced increased security measures to even attend a synagogue.

  • How do you make sure that stops now?

  • It starts today.

  • We have done that already.

  • We've said Kier.

  • Starmer statements Day was real Boston.

  • It was right.

  • My statement with care is unequivocal that we've failed the people of the Jewish community.

  • We have to understand the upset that we've cast on not just the Jewish community but actually are British values goes against everything that we stand for on.

  • Therefore we it was right.

  • We apologize and it's right.

  • We implement the recommendations of the report, go further than that on we set that tone, which is why I'm on the TV tonight, explaining to people that I think I failed in the shadow cabinet.

  • I take responsibility for that.

  • I will do everything in my power to deputy leader to change that and to make sure that people feel welcome back in the Labor Party again.

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