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  • Yeah, that was interesting.

  • And a lot of people seem to interpret that is taking a shot at Tom Brady.

  • I don't think that's reasonable.

  • I think he's taking a shot at people and the way they perceive Tom Brady and the way they perceive him.

  • Rob Ninkovich, you played with Brady all those years.

  • Is that a fair assessment that Odell just made?

  • Look, there definitely has to be a difference.

  • Just like the Pro Bowl are starting the starting Pro Bowl or sleeping in the back of the meeting room.

  • Are they gonna cut that guy?

  • No, there's a difference.

  • Jimmie Johnson came to speak to our team one year, and he said they cut a player that was just a free agent because he was sleeping in the meeting.

  • They asked him, What would you do with Troy Aikman?

  • He said, I just go back there.

  • Hey, Troy, wake up.

  • There's a difference.

  • Tom Brady is screaming at his offensive line to be better in the Bears game.

  • And guess what?

  • The next game, they were better.

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  • J is not a Hall of Famer just yet.

  • He just had he had injuries that has set his career back.

  • Tom Brady is a Hall of Famer.

  • There is a difference.

  • You can see it, and definitely in the way he motivates his teammates.

  • Difference.

  • I'm going.

  • Tom Brady conduce that because he's earned the right to do that with those six Super Bowl rings.

  • Ryan Clark agree.

  • Why are your eyes closed?

  • Our seat?

  • You know what, Rob gonna say?

  • I don't even know why you all started with Rob Rob.

  • So Rob could come out here and say, Oh, Brady is better than everybody.

  • He gets to do whatever the hell he wants.

  • Well, he just got six.

  • He been cussing people out, So let's not say it's because he got six now.

  • He won extremely early, and that's fine.

  • But we're not talking about the emotional deposits he's made in the bank accounts of the New England Patriots organization.

  • We're talking about the media.

  • We're talking about perception.

  • We're talking about things that feel familiar, and Tom Brady has always had kind of this opportunity in this cachet because it looks right because he's screaming and all its passion.

  • I love it when Tom Brady's All Passionate, but you could look at cams sideline antics the way that people hate on him and critique him.

  • It's different.

  • And now you goto Odell Beckham Jr.

  • And you're saying that Odell is not a Hall of Famer yet?

  • Well, technically, neither is Tom Brady.

  • But Odell Beckham Jr from the beginning had Mawr Hall of Fame talent.

  • Then Tom Brady.

  • Odell Beckham Jr was on the Hall of Fame track with the quarterback who was descending, who was at the end of his rope, who he was making look good with slats.

  • The other part is this.

  • Odell Beckham Jr implodes right many of the times that he was having his issues on the sideline.

  • It was between him and the field goal kicking neck.

  • That's who had the issues.

  • He wasn't cussing his teammates out.

  • He was in any time.

  • He said anything to him.

  • He was imploring them to be better along with himself.

  • So I don't have a problem with Brady doing what he does.

  • But I do have a problem with people comparing it to Odell Beckham Jr and saying it's different for some reason, it's not different.

  • People are different.

  • We perceive things differently from the outside and because Tom Brady who looks like all the quarterbacks we've ever seen and who screams.

  • And cousins, like most of the people who right look, they look like him is.

  • Well, when you see this young African American kid with a blonde Mohawk, it looks different.

  • It feels different.

  • You critique it different.

  • You talk about it differently.

  • This ain't got nothing to do with how much they want.

  • That's fair.

  • I will say this.

  • The only person I heard comparing those two things this week was Odell.

  • I didn't hear almost any criticism of Hotel Beckham years ago, years ago, Tissue, I forget.

  • It started years ago, but my point is he made a big deal of this this week.

  • Coming out of that game where Cleveland got waxed, the story was Baker Mayfield.

  • I didn't hear anyone talking about Odell.

  • I saw I was at the game and I saw him do it.

  • I saw him take his shoes off, and I've covered Odell long enough to know that he is emotional and he can be erratic.

  • I don't think this is a conversation about whether or not Odell Beckham Jr is a bad teammate.

  • This is Odell Beckham Jr.

  • Just being a bad version of Odell Beckham Jr.

  • Ryan.

  • I hear what you're saying about Tom Brady has done this all the time.

  • He's earned that equity.

  • Tom Brady is the quarterback.

  • He's a leader of that team.

  • Odell Beckham Jr showed zero leadership.

  • Yeah, he rallies the guys, and he's one of the most incredible athletes to walk on this planet.

  • But what has he really done?

  • Thio earn that kind of be here?

  • That continues to be a problem.

  • You have Kevin Stefanski, by the way.

  • Now, who has toe handle this?

  • And Ryan?

  • You know this because we've talked about this on the show.

  • The idea of trade Eo Deco Odell Beckham Jr is always on the table in Cleveland because of this stuff.

  • They don't know how to handle hits.

  • The fancies had to deal with Stefon Diggs back in Minnesota.

  • That's the closest he's had in terms of dealing with a very emotional wide receiver.

  • But this if you're not performing on the field, very not a lot of openness to dealing with this because he's not doing enough.

  • I fear we have lost our seat.

  • Barnes got into the conversation.

  • Go ahead, but I mean the whole thing.

  • Life's not fair.

  • Newsflash, Odell, you have to come to grips with.

  • I understand.

  • Yeah, I remember coming here and you'll have the whole mister Can't wait.

  • And Tim Tebow came here, right?

  • Tim Tebow comes and guess who had to be his date to the Met Gala to be able to get in.

  • Right?

  • So, you know, Tim Tebow could go over.

  • He could go play baseball.

  • I had a dream one time, right?

  • I had a dream of being professional bull.

  • I thought it was gonna be Pete Weber.

  • The third I thought I was gonna be the next great thing.

  • But I don't get the same type of opportunities.

  • Listen, Odell Beckham is always gonna have that narrative, because until he becomes a winner, that's what's gonna happen.

  • Is it right?

  • No, But we understand.

  • In this country, Ryan, we understand that sometimes the narrative isn't written by us and written by other people.

  • There's always gonna be that way.

  • Exactly one minute Left, RC, go.

  • No, I don't think it has anything to do with the position you play.

  • Necessarily.

  • I believe that's only outside of the building because I worked in the building, and I played for a team that won Super Bowls that went to two Super Bowls, that our quarterback couldn't act.

  • That way.

  • Our quarterback couldn't walk down to the defense and talk to us like Tom Brady talked to us, right?

  • Like Tom Brady talks to those guys now are linebacker James various.

  • He could say whatever he wants to meet Our wide receiver.

  • Hines Ward could say whatever he wanted to meet because he worked that way because he cared that way, because when we watched him at practice, he was out working everybody there.

  • And that's what Odell Beckham Jr does.

  • And for the most part, I've never heard a teammate have an issue with him.

  • You tell me the teammate that has an issue with him and we could talk about it, but they don't have them.

  • They love him everywhere he goes, so I don't get it.

  • I just don't get it.

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Yeah, that was interesting.

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