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  • ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY,

  • WE'RE BACK WITH BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, WHOSE NEW ALBUM

  • "LETTER TO YOU" COMES OUT THIS FRIDAY.

  • BRUCE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ALSO STRUCK ME ABOUT THE

  • DOCUMENTARY IS YOU SPEAK OF THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT YOU WORK WITH,

  • YOU SPEAK OF SO MANY OF THE SUBJECTS THAT YOU'RE TALKING

  • ABOUT, NOT JUST IN YOUR LYRICS BUT IN YOUR NARRATION AND

  • TALKING ABOUT YOUR LIFE WITH EXTRAORDINARY TENDERNESS.

  • AND YOU'VE OFTEN, YOU KNOW, SHOWN TENDERNESS IN YOUR LYRICS.

  • BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, AS YOU STAND ON THOSE TRAIN TRACKS

  • LOOKING AT THE TRAIN LIGHT COMING DOWN THE TRACTION, AS YOU

  • SAY IN THE DOCUMENTARY, YOU GET TO A POINT IN YOUR LIFE WHEN

  • YOU'RE AWARE OF YOUR MORTALITY.

  • >> SURE, YEAH.

  • >> Stephen: HAS THAT MADE YOU MORE TENDER.

  • >> I DON'T KNOW.

  • I THINK YOU END UP BEING A LITTLE MORE FORGIVING, YOU KNOW,

  • OF FOLKS WHO MAY HAVE CROSSED YOUR PATH OR FOR ONE REASON OR

  • ANOTHER YOU'VE HELD YOUR GRUDGES.

  • AND IT GOES FOR THE WHOLE BAND.

  • I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU LIVE WITH PEOPLE FOR 50

  • YEARS THERE'S THINGS THEY CAN'T STAND ABOUT YOU, THERE ARE

  • THINGS YOU DON'T LIKE ABOUT THEM.

  • HEY, MAN, BACK IN 1975, THIS HAPPENED.

  • AND IT'S 2015, AND SOMEBODY'S JUST BEGINNING TO B TALK ABOUT I

  • ALL OF THE HUMAN CONUNDRUM THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT EXISTS IN OUR

  • BAND.

  • BUT WE HAVE HAD A GREATER RESPECT FOR THE INTEGRITY OF OUR

  • SHIP THAN OUR PERSONAL GRUDGES.

  • AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE STILL HERE, YOU KNOW.

  • AND THAT HAS HELD FOR EVERY BAND MEMBER, AND WILL HOLD AS LONG AS

  • EVERY BAND MEMBER FEELS LIKE THAT, THAT THE INTEGRITY OF OUR

  • SHIP, ITS SEAWORTHINESS, AND THE MISSION THAT WE'RE ON TAKES

  • PRECEDENCE OVER PERSONAL GRUDGE.

  • >> Stephen: ARE YOU A SAILOR, BRUCE?

  • DO YOU SAIL?

  • >> YOU KNOW, I DO NOT.

  • ( LAUGHTER ).

  • >> Stephen: ONE OF THE-- ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE ALBUM IS

  • IT-- IT, YOU KNOW, IT UNDOUBTEDLY SOUNDS LIKE YOU.

  • I HEAR YOUR VOICE.

  • I HEAR THE SOUND OF THE BAND.

  • AND-- AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN KEEPING WITH THE HISTORY OF YOUR

  • SOUND.

  • BUT THEN YOU PLAY A SONG-- YOU PLAY "IF I WAS A PRIEST," IS ONE

  • OF THE THREE SONGS YOU WROTE IN 1972.

  • "IF I WAS A PRIEST," OKAY, THAT SOUNDS DIFFERENT THAN THE NEW

  • SONGS, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU.

  • THERE'S NO MISTAKING THAT'S ALSO YOU.

  • WHAT DO YOU SEE AS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT MAN

  • WRITING IN 1972, OR WHAT THAT MAN WROTE IN 1972, AND WHAT THAT

  • MAN IS WRITING NOW?

  • >> YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE "YOUS" ARE IN ONE CAR.

  • AND AS YOU GET OLDER YOU ADD ANOTHER ONE.

  • YOU ADD THE YOU THAT'S 60.

  • YOU ADD THE YOU THAT'S 70.

  • YOU HAVE THE YOU THAT'S 30 IN THE CAR.

  • YOU HAVE THE YOU THAT'S 24 YEARS OLD AND FIRST SIGNED-- ALL OF

  • THOSE FOLKS ARE IN THE CAR THAT YOU'RE DRIVING.

  • SO A LOT OF IT DEPENDS, OF COURSE, AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT, ON

  • WHO'S AT THE WHEEL, YOU KNOW.

  • AND SO, I CAN-- CONSEQUENTLY, I CAN PULL UP DIFFERENT PARTS OF

  • MY INTERNAL LIFE AND MY INTERNAL HISTORY, AND I CAN GO TO THOSE

  • MOMENTS AND FIND SOMETHING IN COMMON WITH THAT VOICE THAT

  • CONNECTS-- IT'S A BIT OF A TIME TRIP, YOU KNOW.

  • IT CONNECTS FROM THAT MOMENT AND LAYS A BOND THROUGH ALL THOSE

  • YEARS TO WHO YOU ARE RIGHT NOW.

  • SO I COULD GO BACK TO SONGS THAT I WROTE WHEN I WAS 22 YEARS OLD,

  • AND I COULD FIND A VOICE TO SING THEM IN AT 70, YOU KNOW.

  • SO THEY WERE A LOT OF FUN BECAUSE I DON'T WRITE LYRICS

  • LIKE THAT ANYMORE, AND I LOVE THAT WRITING STYLE, AND I WISH I

  • HADN'T ABANDONED IT SO SOON.

  • BUT I WAS VERY SELF-CONSCIOUS ABOUT THE DYLAN COMPARISONS SO I

  • MOVED AWAY FROM IT RATHER QUICKLY.

  • BUT LOOKING BACK ON IT, I KIND OF HAVE MY OWN-- MY OWN

  • DYLAN-ESQUE STYLE THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN, REALLY UNINHIBITED,

  • REALLY KIND OF JUST LETTING-- OPENING THE DAM AND LETTING THE

  • WORDS SPILL OUT.

  • THAT HAD A LOT OF JOY AND A LOT OF-- AND A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF

  • DEPTH IN IT.

  • SO THOSE SONGS WERE FUN TO GO BACK TO AND TO RECORD ON THIS

  • RECORD.

  • >> Stephen: IN THE DOCUMENTARY, CLIVE DAVIS SAYS TO

  • YOU THAT DYLAN SAID TO HIM AFTER HE LISTENED TO "GREETINGS FROM

  • ASBURY PARK" HE BETTER BE CAREFUL OR HE MIGHT GO THROUGH

  • EVERY WORD IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE.

  • HE MIGHT RUN OUT OF WORDS."

  • HE SHOULD TALK.

  • HE SHOULD TALK.

  • BUT-- AND YOU TOOK THAT AS LIKE, WELL, I TOOK THAT ADVICE TO

  • HEART BECAUSE HE WAS MY MENTOR.

  • THE LAST TIME WE WERE TOGETHER I ASKED YOU TO NAME THE TOP FIVE

  • BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN SONGS, ACCORDING TO BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN.

  • >> YEAH.

  • >> Stephen: GIVE ME YOUR TOP THREE DYLAN SONGS ACCORDING TO

  • BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN.

  • >> OH, THAT'S REALLY HARD.

  • THAT'S REALLY, REALLY HARD.

  • >> Stephen: THIS IS THE FINAL ROUND OF THE COMPETITION, BRUCE.

  • THIS IS FOR ALL THE MONEY.

  • >> YOU'VE GOT TO PUT "LIKE A ROLLING STONE" IN THERE JUST

  • BECAUSE IT'S A HISTORY CULTURE-CHANGING PIECE OF MUSIC.

  • AND IT'S ALSO SIMPLY AWE FANTASTIC ROCK 'N' ROLL SONG.

  • SO THAT I WOULD HAVE TO PUT IN THERE.

  • "VISIONS OF JOHANNA," IS A BIG SONG FOR ME.

  • BUT I ALSO LIKE "RING THEMBLES" FROM-- I FORGET THE ALBUM IT'S

  • FROM.

  • I LOOK ALL OF JOHN WESLEY HARDEN, SO IT'S HARD TO PICK

  • ONE.

  • LET ME THINK...

  • >> Stephen: HOW ABOUT A SINGLE LINE-- YOU'VE GIVEN ME THREE

  • ALREADY.

  • WHAT'S THE FIRST DYLAN LINE THAT JUMPS OUT TO YOU?

  • >> YOU KNOW, THE FIRST LINE...

  • "ONCE UPON A TIME A GIRL SO FINE THREW THE BUMS A DIME IN THEIR

  • PRIME DIDN'T YOU."

  • THAT WAS LIKE-- YOU WERE HOOKED.

  • YOU WERE INTO THAT STORY SO INTENSELY AND SO QUICKLY.

  • THAT'S THE ONE THAT IMMEDIATELY COMES TO MY MIND.

  • >> Stephen: NOT THAT YOU'RE ASKING BUT MINE IS MY "MY

  • WEARINESS AMAZES ME.

  • I AM BRANDED ON MY FEET."

  • IT'S SIMPLE, BUT "BRANDED ON MY FEET."

  • >> THAT'S DAMN GOOD.

  • >> Stephen: I'VE BEEN THERE A LOT.

  • >> THAT'S DAMN GOOD!

  • >> Stephen: I'VE BEEN THERE YOUNG.

  • I'VE BEEN THERE OLD.

  • ONE MEMBER OF THE BAND, MAX WEINBERG, IS URGING PEOPLE TO

  • LISTEN TO THE WHOLE ALBUM.

  • AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE YOUNGSTERS WILL LOOK AT HIM LIKE

  • HE'S NUTS.

  • LISTENING TO WHOLE ALBUMS-- PEOPLE DON'T DO THAT A LOT

  • ANYMORE.

  • DO YOU RECOMMEND THE WHOLE ALBUM.

  • OBVIOUSLY, IT'S YOUR ALBUM, BUT DO YOU LISTEN TO A LOT OF ALBUMS

  • ALL THE WAY THROUGH THESE DAYS.

  • YOU'RE UNDER OATH.

  • >> I LISTEN TO ( BLEEP ) ROCK WELL.

  • >> Stephen: HOW ABOUT "THE GREATEST."

  • CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE SONG "THE GREATEST."

  • >> I LOVE HER WRITING AND IT'S SIN MAT AND I CAN HER NARRATIVE

  • IS GREAT.

  • THE LAST RECORD I ACTUALLY LISTENED TO ALL THE WAY THROUGH

  • WAS THE 45th ANNIVERSARY OF "BORN TO RUN."

  • SO I GOT WITH A BUDDY OF MINE, AND IT WAS, LIKE, SUNDAY MORNING

  • AT 11 A.M.

  • I SAID, "COME ON, WE'RE GOING TO JUMP IN THE CAR.

  • WE'RE GOING TO PLAY IT FROM TOP TO BOTTOM JUST FOR THE 45th

  • ANNIVERSARY."

  • WE GOT IN THE CAR AND STARTED DRIVING SOUTH A LITTLE BIT.

  • AND THE ALBUM'S RUNNING ITSELF DOWN.

  • AND WE GET TO ASBURY PARK, I TURN AND I COME UP KINGSLEY

  • AVENUE, JUST AS "BORN TO RUN" HITS, DOWN PAST THE STONE PONY,

  • PAST CONVENTION HALL, INTO DEAL, INTO WEST LONG BRANCH TO 7 AND A

  • HALF WEST END COURT, JUST AS THE INTRO TO "JUNGLE LAND" HITS, I'M

  • PARKED IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE I WROTE ALL THE SONGS FOR "BORN TO

  • RUN."

  • THAT WAS FUN.

  • >> Stephen: WOW, WOW.

  • >> SO I THINK IT'S FUN LISTENING TO RECORDS ALL THE WAY THROUGH

  • JUST BECAUSE THEY-- THERE'S A GREATER STORY-- THEY'RE ALWAYS

  • MORE THAN THE SUM OF THEIR PARTS.

  • AND A GREATER STORY TO TELL.

  • I WOULD SUGGEST PEOPLE LISTEN TO THIS ONE ALL THE WAY THROUGH,

  • TOO.

  • YOU'LL HAVE A BIGGER EXPERIENCE.

  • >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE ONE MORE BREAK, BUT WHEN WE COME

  • BACK, MAYBE-- MAYBE BRUCE WILL PLAY ONE OF THOSE GUITARS.

  • YOU NEVER KNOW.

♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY,

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