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  • Hey, everybody, welcome back to a late Show.

  • My next guest is a comedian, author and Ticktock star best known for her viral Donald Trump.

  • Lip synchs.

  • Well, there's many cases where it's actually less costly and better.

  • Sometimes you'll see a building.

  • It costs less money than another building that cost more because the one that built the one that because war this one looks better.

  • The one that's cheaper.

  • It looks better, they say.

  • How much more did you spend for that building?

  • Actually, we spent less.

  • You could do that.

  • It's called.

  • You have to know what you're doing.

  • If you know what you're doing.

  • That's only good for the real estate people in here.

  • Of which you're a plenty.

  • By the way, please welcome to a late show.

  • Sarah Cooper.

  • Hey, Sarah.

  • Hey, Steven.

  • How are you?

  • I'm doing well.

  • It's nice to see you.

  • And great to see you.

  • Nice to see you in person.

  • You, your your lip synchs of Donald Trump and other people have been one of the unexpected, uh, discoveries and delights of the last seven months.

  • Thank you for that.

  • For making all of us laugh.

  • You're welcome.

  • I was just playing around with my living room.

  • I was really bored, so I'm glad I was able to contribute some levity thio this horrible nightmare that we're all living through.

  • So you've you've you've done Trump, of course.

  • Melania, Ivanka, Others who can't you do?

  • Or Who do you not want to do?

  • Like who's off the list for you?

  • Well, I mean, people call it an impersonation.

  • I don't think it's that it's It's not even an impression.

  • It's more like an interpretation, you know, It's like it's an embodiment or a rib argument I love it undercuts their status so much.

  • That's what I love him exactly exactly.

  • I mean, it's like like there's an interpreter for the death, and I consider it kind of like an interpreter for the emotionally blind, sort of like if you can't see the BS when you watch him, you watch me saying what he's saying and you see the BS, and so it's like I'm able to reveal that, like strip away the layer and reveal that subtext.

  • So for me, I wouldn't be able to do it with someone like Michelle Obama because I feel like she says what she means she means what she says.

  • There's there's really nothing else that I could do there.

  • But with with someone like Trump, there's a lot more going on underneath the surface that Aiken have fun with.

  • Do you have any idea whether he's seen any of your performances as him?

  • I saw a, um, A reporter asked him about my videos a few months ago, and his response was Sarah Cooper.

  • No, Never heard of her there.

  • Are there good?

  • Are the videos good?

  • Are they positive?

  • He is a terrible actor because he's definitely seen my videos and he hates them.

  • That's what I think.

  • I feel like he is so angry that I have stripped his visual from his audio because he's worked very hard to make sure that his motions are very precise and like he has this air of power.

  • And I've taken it away from him, and I think he actually hates it.

  • I mean, that's that's my theory right now.

  • I'm imagining.

  • He's especially furious that a woman did this to him.

  • Yeah, he doesn't like that either.

  • He doesn't like women.

  • He doesn't like immigrants, you know.

  • Congratulations on everything.

  • He hates you got a new Netflix special to you play a fictionalized version of yourself and and many guest stars, but one particularly outstanding one.

  • Tell me, Explain to me, I've got the photo is That's it.

  • That's it.

  • Explain to me how you got Helen Mirren to play Billy Bush on your access Hollywood bus.

  • I can't describe how excited I was when she agreed to do this.

  • I mean, she is the polar opposite of Billy Bush.

  • I mean, she has class.

  • She has integrity, you know?

  • So that's who I was really going for is somebody who was just completely different than who he was in that moment.

  • And she was game from the minute I spoke to her on the phone and she was like, So what am I?

  • Am I going to be dressed like a man?

  • Um, I you know, she just she was just very like, How would I?

  • I'm I'm Billy Bush.

  • But I'm not Billy Bush.

  • I'm like, Yes, exactly.

  • Um and we we rehearsed on Zoom.

  • We listen to the audio over and over and over again, and that's really kind of uncomfortable audio to listen to.

  • But she did it and She was just amazing.

  • I mean, and you know, 11 During one rehearsal, I woke up and I had this really, like, horrible sore neck, and she told me to take 200 mg of ibuprofen, so I helped her with tic tac, and she helped me with my eye.

  • Sore neck.

  • I mean, we really just work together.

  • Really?

  • Well, yeah.

  • Trade.

  • Now, I you know, we have technically met before.

  • Yes.

  • And the first time was you used to work at Google, and I did a Q and A there in 2000 and 12 and I believe we have a clip.

  • I was being interviewed by Eric Schmidt.

  • I think we have a clip of view there.

  • Jim, did you have a question?

  • Yes, go ahead.

  • What is the difference between Stephen Colbert, the person and Stephen Colbert, the character?

  • And what were the challenges and you becoming Stephen Colbert, the character?

  • I remember that moment.

  • And yes, I remember that I remember distinctly.

  • I don't know whether I give you a good answer, but just a quick, unrelated question.

  • What are the differences between Sarah Cooper, the person and Sarah Cooper, the character and just spitballing here.

  • What are the challenges in becoming Sarah Cooper?

  • The character so original.

  • Such a good question.

  • So thoughtful.

  • Definitely not a question that I came up right before I came up with right before I went to the mic because I had no question.

  • I was literally went up there, and I was like, Stephen Colbert, Stephen Colbert and Stephen Colbert like, I was so nervous.

  • And do you remember this poster?

  • They made this poster for your appearance.

  • You, um and I just I have to call you out on something.

  • Hold on one second.

  • I gotta get close to the TV so I could see it.

  • Okay.

  • Yes.

  • What's going on with my groin there?

  • Yeah, I don't know.

  • But this is a This is satire, but this is Trump.

  • Now, Um, people have taken this exact image and put it put Trump's face on here it is again re becoming the greatness we never weren't.

  • Um, Trump's tagline now is make America great again, again, which sounds like a pitch for the Colbert Report that they decided not to dio.

  • I mean, so basically you created this.

  • I think I mean, I really anything that hasn't been said before.

  • I was merely, uh, evil John the Baptist, showing the way for to the savior of evil.

  • Um, I This one of the reasons why I don't want to the character anymore is that I have to actually somehow leapfrog how stupid he is.

  • Yeah.

  • I mean, do you feel like there's a segment of society that just doesn't understand satire?

  • Because it seems like they embraced it completely.

  • Satire is habitually not that popular.

  • Damn it.

  • Satire is what closes on Saturday night.

  • Well, Sarah, thanks for being here.

  • Nice to see you again.

  • Thank you so much, Stephen.

  • Everything's fine is available on Netflix now, Sarah Cooper, everybody will be right back.

Hey, everybody, welcome back to a late Show.

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