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  • He's Brady the top three M v P.

  • Candidate.

  • Top three.

  • No, of course not.

  • You know he got Antonio Brown.

  • We could revisit the discussion when he has all the weapons in the world all season at the end of the year.

  • But right now, no, I mean, he's quarterbacking a two loss team.

  • There are guys like Tannehill who are quarterbacking a one loss team.

  • Yeah, but Brady's performance.

  • Brady with an embarrassment of riches.

  • His Q B r is 16th.

  • It's like mid pack.

  • Tannehill's his top four about Ryan Tannehill now, right?

  • Never mind Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson.

  • So there's three right there before we get to the guys a little bit on the outskirts of that conversation.

  • Like Tannehill, who at this moment are still in front of Brady.

  • You know, the answer is no.

  • At this moment, Tom Brady is not a top three.

  • I'm gonna say is I'm gonna say is, But I'm not just leaning, too.

  • In fairness to Max, I'm not just leaning on his performance.

  • I'm leaning on all the things.

  • Well, the answer.

  • Everything is going on around them.

  • The leadership that he's showing the culture changer that he has been the things that are happening with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and how he's being credited with it all.

  • You even have defensive players talking about how they feel.

  • They're playing better because of him.

  • He's a guy that moves to change.

  • He's the guys that make the right decisions.

  • He could go for the big play, but he didn't do it on these possessions this possession because he saw that they needed a little bit of rest and stuff like that.

  • You got a running game that feels effective.

  • You got tight ends of that taking care of.

  • You got receivers that are just going more and more and more when the when the hell are we?

  • Ever heard of Scott Miller?

  • We know about him now and now Antonio Brown is coming.

  • And then when you see Antonio Brown's coming, you know that has everything to do with Tom Brady.

  • Because if it were up to Bruce Arians, Tom Antonio Brown would not be there because he had an opportunity to get Antonio Brown offseason, he said, We don't need him in this locker room, etcetera, etcetera.

  • Tom Brady arrives all of a sudden that changes.

  • So when you look at the totality of things that are evolving around the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and we see how we look at them as a collective unit as a team, clearly you think about Tom Brady even before you think about Bruce Areas, even before you think about Todd Bowles, and that's where I am, not necessarily because of his on field performance per se.

  • It's the combination of everything.

  • I I agree with that point.

  • My point is, I'm factoring that in to make him like if you're Q B R is 16th in the league among starters, right?

  • Like it's mid pack and your team has two losses, and I could point to a bunch of quarterbacks with better numbers on better teams, at least by record.

  • So far, I'm giving Brady credit, which I think he deserves for leadership.

  • Even his attracting Antonio Brown look a B could have signed a bunch of places, including Seattle, who looked like they were in front of the line.

  • Brady is the magnet.

  • He's the gravitational pull there.

  • He deserves credit.

  • I also agree that he's spreading the ball around and all that stuff, but guys going into the season even without Tom Brady.

  • If you just put a competent quarterback with these receivers on this defense, we would expect success in Tampa.

  • They They made a move off of Jameis Winston because he handed the other team 112 points with 30 interceptions.

  • We all knew you cut that number in half.

  • Jamous.

  • You got at least nine wins on this team.

  • So it's not a knock against Brady.

  • I agree with the leadership stuff.

  • That's why I think you could argue he should start to be talked about as top.

  • Well, I in that conversation you got my homes is going 16 touchdowns, just one interceptions.

  • He's completing 65 for one loss.

  • Team completed about 65.7% of his passes.

  • Well, guess what Tom Brady is it completing the exact same percentage as Patrick Mahomes?

  • 18 touchdowns for interceptions.

  • And the difference is that Tom Brady doesn't have Andy Reid and Eric the enemy.

  • And so we got to take that into consideration as well.

  • These are the kind of things that people don't look at not to sneeze at Bruce Arians and Byron Leftwich because I think they're doing a hell of a job.

  • But I just think that right now when you see all that's transpiring Tom Brady, I'm telling you right now if the same exact thing we're taking place after week, 16 weeks 17 of the NFL season, there would be a debate right now as to whether or not Tom Brady is the league M v p.

  • If the exact Santa Claus, he just said he's the best quarterback in football, right?

  • About considering Patrick Mahomes?

  • Yeah, but also, I mean, you are.

  • It takes a lot of it's like it's like saying P E r.

  • And that's not a perfect stat, right?

  • It takes a lot of those classical stats and and contextual ises them and makes it better.

  • And by that measure, Brady is one slot above Matthew Stafford, right?

  • Patrick Mahomes is six slots above Russell Wilson, and Mahomes and Wilson are playing for one loss teams and Brady's playing for a two loss team.

  • Now it is true when he gets a B, it will be an even greater embarrassment of riches on offense, and but he's looked good throw to his receivers.

  • I'm not saying Grady isn't starting to approach.

  • The conversation is just not in it yet.

  • I just think you always look at the ages and negative and you forget the fact of all the experience he has.

  • How cerebral.

  • He's seen every defense.

  • Well, im okay, I forgot you apologize for the never apart and how seasoned he is in terms of that as an advantage over these other quarterbacks.

  • To be clear, I've never apologized.

  • I didn't know you admitted you were wrong.

  • Sorry.

  • I forgot.

  • You admitted you were wrong.

  • There is a bit.

  • Well, clearly, he defied the cliff prediction, But I didn't even just bring up age just then.

He's Brady the top three M v P.

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