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  • next Fighting between Azerbaijan and Armenia over the disputed territory of Nagorno Karabakh is in its ninth day.

  • Both sides have accused each other of attacking civilian areas.

  • On the casualties are going up.

  • Here is the latest video from the region.

  • This was released by Azerbaijan's Defense Force inside the town of Tal ish in the Gorno Chara bat, Azeri soldiers claim to have taken control of seven villages that were held by Armenians.

  • And you can see there are soldiers carrying the Azerbaijan flag.

  • Now they're gonna carry back is an enclave inside Azerbaijan, but it's run by ethnic Armenians.

  • Armenia and Azerbaijan actually fought a war over the region in the late eighties and nineties, ending in a ceasefire in 1994.

  • Crucially, no peace treaty was signed, so this region is very much under dispute.

  • Conflict escalated over the weekend.

  • This is step on a cart, the capital of Nagorno.

  • Carol back coming under attack.

  • We're told there were heavy casualties on that.

  • Civilians have been bust out of the city about this footage released by Armenians, Ministry of Defense.

  • Because you about a sense of the destruction.

  • Their local media say the city has been left with no electricity.

  • The conflict has escalated outside the region into Azerbaijan's second biggest city, Ganja.

  • As you can hear, there was heavy shelling in the city on Sunday.

  • City is home to 330,000 people.

  • Now Nagorno Karabakh authorities claim to have struck a military airport, although Azerbaijan disputes that well.

  • Hours after that attack, Azerbaijan's president went on national television with this warning.

  • Okay, Kim C.

  • Asser Bajan will not allow anyone to conquer Nagorno Karabakh.

  • It is Azeri territory.

  • We must return and we will return.

  • My last condition is that we be given a schedule for the withdrawal of the Armenian armed forces from the occupied territories.

  • Well, for the latest on the ground, his Jonah Fisher in Armenia's capital, Yerevan, across the Contact Line, the second biggest city in Azerbaijan.

  • Ganja has, we're told, being under fire today.

  • It was also attacked at the weekend.

  • We were told then by the Armenians that they were attacking Ah military airport.

  • But it does appear like some of that shelling has hit civilian areas.

  • This conflict is now in its ninth day.

  • There's very little sign that it's about to come to the end.

  • The Armenians would like there to be a ceasefire and would like there to be talks.

  • But from the Azeri, the Azerbaijani side has has come a very bellicose a message from President Ali EV effectively saying that they would only stop fighting when when Armenians Armenian forces have withdrawn from Nagorno Karabakh and that sovereignty has Bean returned to Azerbaijan.

  • Well, there's concern about the use of or destructive weaponry in the conflict.

  • We saw evidence of that in German officials report from Stepanakert over the weekend.

  • Here's a bit of that.

  • This first week of war has been marked by Azerbaijan's use of military drones striking at will.

  • Nearly three decades after losing Nagorno Karabakh, the Azeris appear intent on claiming it back.

  • This soldier is warning that drones have been spotted on shortly afterwards.

  • There's an explosion nearby.

  • Everybody is scrambling.

  • Come in here, Real reminder.

  • A SE were fleeing as why this place.

  • It is increasingly dangerous for people under attack day and night.

  • For a little more detail, we also spotted this Jerusalem Post article.

  • The headline Missiles, rockets and drones define Azerbaijan Armenia conflict.

  • It has a detailed and extensive list off military losses on both sides, including more than 100 drones, hundreds of armored vehicles on hundreds of artillery systems on specific referenced.

  • But to this, it's a well, frankly bizarre music video released by Azerbaijan's military last week, which it claims to be evidence off its drone warfare.

  • You can see four trucks their way.

  • Could take a little listen.

  • Thank you, yeah.

  • Truck.

  • There were 36 Capitals capsules for launching drones in that slightly strange video there.

  • Right, let's try and explain all this, Really.

  • Shashank Joshi is the defense editor for the Economist.

  • Um, on Weaken, Speak, Live.

  • Thank you so much for coming on the program, so we'll park the slightly strange nature of that video there.

  • But on the more serious matter of the weapons involved here, what's being used on either side of this conflict?

  • The launch is that you mentioned are not just any old drones.

  • There's a Harrop drones, which are a specific kind of loitering munition.

  • Effectively think of a cross between a kamikaze drone and a very long legged missile that can fly around the battlefield for hours, looking for things to hit on its own and then plow into them without any kind of human intervention.

  • It's an Israeli made system that Azerbaijan has had for a while on.

  • In fact, it used it for the first time.

  • We think.

  • Four years ago in 2016 when there was UNEP ISS owed when a Harrop munition plowed into a Armenian bus on, they have almost certainly been used this time around again.

  • So it's interesting even in that music video, which is effectively propaganda, we see some of the most cutting edge military systems that are being used anywhere on the planet.

  • Well, given that frankly, slightly ominous and scary description you gave there of the weaponry involved, how worried, How concerned are you about the scale of this conflict we saw?

  • Some of the damage are being done there already in Joan, officials report.

  • I think anyone has to be concerned when you have a combination of very advanced systems, strong nationalist passions that play on also very old fashioned means of destruction that a very on high tech but still involved very bad loss of life shelling of civilian areas, Soviet era rocket systems, those those are deeply troubling.

  • But I think what this what the real issue here is not the scale of destruction.

  • It's, I think what we're seeing is a reminder of both the old and the new ways of conflict that is.

  • Artillery, rockets, machine guns, trenches, infantry fire but also loitering munitions of the kind that I mentioned.

  • Andi.

  • I think that the single platform that has been most effective for Azerbaijan has been a Turkish made drone system that is, has effectively decimated Armenian armored systems, artillery and air defense on Do you know it's not a fancy warplane?

  • It is not a fancy missile.

  • It za to $3 million drone that turkey is operating all over the region, and that is probably what has called caused more military destruction on the battlefield that you're seeing than almost any other system.

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