Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles Obviously, one of the major storylines has been about Clayton Kershaw. Everybody wants to talk about him in silencing those critics. What has he proven thus far in this World Series run? I mean, he's proven that he's a really good picture. We've known that I just feel like the narrative. With Clayton Kershaw as good as he's been in this world, Siri's, they gotta win it all. I mean, Max, you and I've gone back and forth on this and his narrative hiss storyline every year, right? What happens? And this is why it's so different for Clayton because it's not all on his shoulders. I mean, you look at tonight, it's gonna be a bullpen game with Tony Gonzalez starting. If it gets to a Game seven, guess who's not throwing in that game? Clayton Kershaw. It's down toe, actually, their ace and Walker Buehler, in my opinion, for Clayton Kershaw, to put it all behind him. The narrative, everything that's happened to him in the postseason. We know he's an amazing picture watching his last two performances. Yes, this is what he can dio Ridiculous slider curveball. We get it, but this team has to win for that narrative of him struggling the postseason to finally be done. One thing is Jessica, when you say narrative and a lot of people use that as a code to say, Well, that's the way it's being portrayed when in fact I've been making the argument. I think there may even be a winning case that during the regular season, Clayton Kershaw will go down in history is the best whoever did it during the regular season, right? There's going to be as a Koufax level prime for his era, but much, much, much longer, right, consistent excellence. He has not been the same guy in these playoffs. And when you say narrative, it sounds like you're saying you think it's a little unfair. Do you think it's Is that your opinion? Do you think he's earned? The kind of reputation is being, uh, less than himself in the playoffs? I mean, he is less than himself in the playoffs. When you look at the number, I mean the numbers are just stupid in the regular season and what he has done and you look at the competition, you could you could make a bunch of arguments. Regular season versus postseason and what you're asking. What I see with Clayton Kershaw is it's that combination. Ah, front office. Dave Roberts. And how long? Clayton Kershaw state in games. When you look at the numbers in the struggles, why the NRA goes up so high more times than not, it's because he was left in one pitch too long. One inning too long. That's why Dave Roberts his last start. I mean, Clayton Kershaw stood there on the mound, arguing with him. Trust in. Turner jumped in and said, Don't take him out, Dave. And what a Dave Roberts do said No, Come with me. You're coming to the dugout because I have made this mistake too many times. And that's where we've seen Clayton struggle the most. Well, he made those mistakes too many times, but I want to go back to game for because you brought up Dave Roberts. That's what I wanted to talk about. I thought that Jan having Jansen, it was a mistake. Obviously, we saw the two Arizona game winning played by Tampa Bay, and I think to me they I literally tweeted. I think they blew this Siri's. I mean, they might lose this series because of its game. Clayton was so that's right. Talk to me about how pivotal it is for the Dodgers toe win this world Siri's as it pertains to manager Dave Roberts, who I like a lot. But with the money that they paid to these players and the expectations that come with it, there's no question he could be a champion or he could be without a job. Talk to me about that for second even. I mean, that is I'm from L. A. That is the front page headline. Every time they lose a game within this Siri's within a season. It is Dave Roberts that gets the blame Now. Is that right or wrong? You guys, I just heard you talking about Mike McCarthy and all the different. I don't even want to bring in the Cowboys, but it's more than just him. I mean, Dave Roberts. Yes, he will be to blame. There's a very good chance that they don't win the World Series. I mean, you guys understand this. The pressure that the build up the Kirk Gibson enough 88 uncle like they want to see a new champion in L. A and how dang good. And I think now more than ever, everyone is seeing now that Mookie Betts is on board how good this team is if they don't win, there has to be somebody to blame now, is it? Dave Roberts? I don't think so. I think it's a combination of people, but we all know how it works. We all know how the business works. They're not gonna fire their players. They're gonna go after the manager. No question, Jessica, Before we let you go, what do you think l a gets it done tonight against I think it goes to seven. I mean, I feel like I feel like Blake Snell nine K's If they don't get it done tonight. I don't know if they win it all, and that's I get it. Walker. Buehler, Game seven. But Stephen A nailed it that Game four. This thing would have been over by now. That was the wind. That was They had it and I felt it. I mean, calling it literally I mean the chaos. Randy Rosie barely around like the air's me too hot dog in the night because I don't trust him. In the video, I don't like them together. I think Blake Snell, who on the Cy Young a couple years ago before had arthroscopic surgery on his elbow Blake Snell, wins tonight he could be dominant. Clayton Kershaw, Jessica. This is setting up for him to come out of the bullpen in a Game seven. Win this thing for the Dodgers. I want to see Clayton Kershaw out of the bullpen in Game seven and exercise the demons way are going toe. Argue this. If that happens, whatever happens if he gets blown up, Stephen is like I told you, or if he comes in and finally does what he's never done and wins it himself for the Dodgers in the World Series. I love Kershaw, but I think that listen, we've seen enough from him. He's an M V P candidate for this world. Siri's dodgersbullpen. What is 5 57 e R A. I don't trust Dodgers win game six tonight or they lose. All right, we'll see. All I know is just just said, if the Dodgers don't win tonight, party's over and she's from L. A. So talking with not her heart. All right, Jess, we'll talk to you soon. probably tomorrow. We'll see if a champions crowned. Thanks so much. Thanks for watching ESPN on YouTube for live streaming sports and premium content. Subscribe to ESPN plus.