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  • by default to travel is not sustainable.

  • Um, you know, we're getting an airplanes were driving a car, so I think it's making a conscious effort to have that impact to be a smallest possible.

  • My name is Paula Franklin.

  • I'm half of Franklin Bailey.

  • We are a branding NPR agency focusing on sustainable travel in sub Saharan Africa.

  • Where you're staying really ask questions about plastic.

  • Are they using sustainable bath products?

  • Are they building with sustainable products when they are no longer a company?

  • Is that hotel gonna lie in ruin in some remote wilderness somewhere?

  • Or are they building with biodegradable deck ings and canvas?

  • Mhm.

  • Support the local community?

  • Choose local products, whether it's food or shopping, any souvenirs saying in locally owned bed and breakfast and hotels.

  • Uh huh.

  • They're actually a lot of companies that will offset the carbon for you.

  • Hail M offers carbon offsetting.

  • When you book a flight, you pay the extra.

  • It's usually just planting trees somewhere.

  • The trees are often in the rain forest, so, like it's going to places that have been deforested.

  • Yeah, there are companies that are looking at the next level, really making an effort to have their money go to good.

  • I think steps travel there.

  • Actually, pioneering are before us your project in the UK Invisible cities from Scotland.

  • They train local homeless people.

  • Toby guides off their own city, African parks.

  • It's a public pirate partnership, so they take over the management of national parks when governments can't.

  • So I think right now they operate 20 national parks in Africa, where they're the only ones really focusing on this wildlife.

  • Think whether exotic and far away travel is always better.

  • Maybe there is something local that you can explore, and it will be equally exciting and adventurous.

  • We often think of sustainability.

  • It's somewhere far away.

  • It's an island in the South Pacific.

  • It's the African savannah.

by default to travel is not sustainable.

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