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  • Would you agree that there's not a whole lot of overlap

  • in the style of comedy that you present

  • as opposed to what Conan O'Brien presents?

  • I mean, I think we're exactly the same.

  • If he ever retires there's just like

  • this knack (speaker drowned by laughter)

  • (laughs)

  • waiting in the wings.

  • (laughing)

  • (upbeat music)

  • [Narrator] A lot of work goes into a short,

  • late night stand upset.

  • Join me, JP Buck as I spotlight the comedians

  • who came up with some of my favorite point sets.

  • This is, The setup.

  • [ Announcer] Please welcome back to the show.

  • Very funny, Jena Friedman.

  • (upbeat music)

  • Your first said focused on,

  • I mean, it was sexual assault and took on Nazis.

  • Yeah.

  • And I would actually say,

  • that this one was even tougher to pull off.

  • This one was a lot tougher to pull off weirdly enough.

  • Yes.

  • I think the last one was a little,

  • it started off a little delicate.

  • I'm actually half man

  • (crowd laughing)

  • on my dad's side.

  • (crowd laughing)

  • So,

  • with this one the subject matters so morbid

  • and I couldn't even imagine it ever going on late night,

  • but I think you were like, let's try it.

  • (upbeat music)

  • I think as female comics,

  • it's such like we're all so like what do we wear?

  • How do we dress?

  • How do we look cool, but not intimidating.

  • And how do we look likable but not like schlubby?

  • All these dumb things that take up space.

  • My only regret,

  • I wish I had worn like a pastel color shirt

  • or just something a little softer.

  • I feel like wearing black, talking about murder

  • just like there's a lot.

  • That hairstyle was so nice.

  • And she put my hair back.

  • Cause I had it in just like a ponytail.

  • And she was like,

  • don't do this cause it'll look weird.

  • And the first thing I did just out of nerves, it's so dumb.

  • I'm sorry I'm talking about that.

  • But that was what I was thinking about

  • as I'm like delivering massage and murder.

  • I'm like, what does my hair look like?

  • (laughing)

  • (air whooshing)

  • Hi it's so nice to be here.

  • The news is pretty depressing lately.

  • So to lighten the mood, I've started watching, "True crime."

  • (crowd laughing)

  • You've all seen "Making a murder."

  • If you haven't, it's a documentary

  • about how a woman's death made so much money for Netflix.

  • (crowd laughing)

  • and then the podcasts, Their cereal,

  • My favorite murder, Missing and Murdered, Up and Vanished,

  • Wine and Crime, White Wine, True Crime, True Crime Brewery,

  • True Crime all the time, What the crime, Crime town,

  • Crime junkie, Cold Case killer

  • and things to live and die in LA.

  • Someone knows something, Man in the Window,

  • Body and the more

  • (crowds cheering and clapping)

  • Southern crime, True-Crime, Junk women's solving crime

  • which I'm actually on pretty cool.

  • These are just a couple

  • of this American death doesn't exist yet

  • but that's gonna be my retirement plan.

  • How long could you have actually made that joke?

  • At the time I had like a whole page back front

  • and back of just different podcasts

  • and I had done it in different country

  • I did it in Edinburgh.

  • And so it just like, the timing is slightly different

  • and every crowd is slightly different.

  • So, and then there are some podcasts

  • like Southern Fried True Crime

  • which is just a funny phrase.

  • So it's like, but the timing always was different

  • depending on the crowd when to get out of it and when not?

  • But yeah.

  • I mean, I think I could have done a five minute set.

  • (laughing)

  • Which it just goes to prove your point.

  • (upbeat music)

  • I didn't realize how obsessed America was

  • with dead white women in particular,

  • until it occurred to me

  • that Ted Bundy has two Netflix specials

  • and yeah I'm jealous.

  • I don't know if you've seen the Ted Bundy tapes.

  • I keep wanting to call them the Ted Bundy mixed tapes

  • something about the graphic design.

  • It's just so seventies.

  • So retro it almost,

  • it's like they want to make you a nostalgic for an era

  • when men could just murder women and get away with it

  • because there was no Google earth.

  • And then

  • (crowds laughing)

  • I tend to do that sometimes where you throw out your line

  • and then quickly move on

  • and almost don't allow them to laugh.

  • Is that something that you do on purpose?

  • Is that like a conscious decision?

  • I think being a female in comedy for 15 years

  • you just can't ever expect the audience

  • to be rooting for you.

  • So I think, or maybe just my own personal experience.

  • I pad it with so many jokes that I just am like,

  • blah, blah blah. Okay.

  • Laugh, or don't laugh, I don't care.

  • I'm like, I'm going, I'm still going.

  • Like you don't, you know

  • I never just walk on stage and people will be like

  • yeah, you know, like it's very different.

  • It's like defensive comedy.

  • The scripted movie on Netflix,

  • starring Zac Efron written and directed by men

  • where they made the craziest person in that movie.

  • Carole Ann Boone.

  • The woman who dated Ted Bundy while he was in prison.

  • They made Carole look so much crazier

  • than a man who murdered 30 people.

  • (crowd laughing)

  • And I was watching that thinking,

  • Carole Ann is not crazy.

  • She's just a woman dating in her thirties.

  • (crowd laughing and clapping)

  • Carole Ann's crazy?

  • Carole Ann's crazy.

  • Really?

  • What does that say about all the men outside of prison?

  • She would have dated, but Ted Bundy was nicer to her.

  • (crowd laughing)

  • There's a lot there.

  • And I really love that.

  • I just heard my friend Ruth left.

  • (both laughing)

  • I see where your focus is.

  • No, my focus is not in the content

  • because I sit with the content for so long.

  • My focus on the content for like six months or however long

  • it takes you to write this chunk

  • that when it's time to perform it

  • the last thing you want you're in autopilot.

  • Carole Ann care Bear just wanted to meet a guy

  • who wasn't gonna ghost her after she slept with him.

  • It's hard to ghost someone from jail.

  • (crowd laughing)

  • unless you're Jeff Epstein.

  • (crowd shouting and cheering)

  • it's not like he killed himself, you guys.

  • (crowd laughing)

  • Backstage before the show,

  • you still were tinkering with the wording of that joke.

  • I mean, I wrote that Epstein tag

  • like five minutes before I went on stage.

  • Remember I was like, it's funny?

  • (laughs)

  • Which I wanna say this is a compliment.

  • That my favorite thing about this set, is that tag.

  • It really is.

  • I mean, the tags are supposed to be disposable

  • in front of you easily throw away.

  • And that tag is really for me.

  • What makes this it's a cherry on top of this set,

  • (laughing)

  • I mean, rarely do you wanna get groans from an audience,

  • But come on. I got to say, that's gotta be pretty.

  • I think groans are honestly we could get into it,

  • but I think groans are cooler than laughs.

  • Because especially when you do club comedy for a long time,

  • there's a rhythm and a formula to getting laughs.

  • If you can invoke, invoke, evoke, I don't know.

  • Another kind of visceral reaction from people.

  • I love groans.

  • I'll take a groan cause that means they're still with you.

  • They're just uncomfortable

  • which is a good, which is really why I do what I do.

  • (both laughing)

  • The docu series was even worse

  • because there was all this archival footage

  • of Ted Bundy in the courtroom

  • with all the police officers and Ted was just killing it.

  • (crowd laughing)

  • That's comedian slang for slaughtering.

  • He murdered in that courtroom,

  • he basically slayed.

  • He had all the cops just doubled over in stitches

  • laughing at not even jokes and the lights were on

  • and his audience was giving him way more love

  • than you guys are giving me for this bit.

  • (audience laughing)

  • I love that that's pre-planned.

  • Cause you know what's (indistinct) this.

  • I know that every audience I did this set for, freaked out

  • and also this set was like in my hour show,

  • "Miscarriage of Justice."

  • And it was like towards the end.

  • So I had never done this set just cold.

  • Like you don't know me.

  • Here or this guy?

  • The guy never told her.

  • Ted Bundy were alive today,

  • He'd be on his third Netflix special.

  • It would be his apology tour.

  • (audience laughing)

  • And he'd be traveling around the country

  • being like,

  • 'When my friends and I realized it was wrong to kill women,

  • we found some (Indistinct) about it.'

  • (audience laughing)

  • You and I know what news it comes next.

  • Forgetting the person I'm even teasing lightly.

  • It is crazy to me all the kind of meet you people

  • who get apology tours

  • and I just kind of wanted to tease them about it.

  • Or I'm just saying what he said, you know,

  • but with Ted Bundy.

  • I didn't appreciate how the cops painted Ted Bundy

  • as a criminal mastermind.

  • He wasn't a criminal mastermind.

  • He was white and they weren't looking for him.

  • (audience laughing and clapping)

  • I'm not saying cops are racist,

  • just that maybe cops are as racist as comedians are funny.

  • (audience laughing)

  • Not all comedians are funny,

  • but if someone's like I'm a comedian and you were like,

  • Oh, you're probably pretty funny.

  • (audience laughing)

  • (speaking faintly)

  • Where you just wait

  • and you're like, can you just make the connection?

  • You don't have to do it for you.

  • (laughing)

  • They made it.

  • I mean, it's also crazy to see that joke in this moment.

  • That's like, ah,

  • Ted Bundy also not an evil genius.

  • Here's how I know Ted Bundy wasn't that smart.

  • He was a Republican politician in Utah

  • as he started murdering women.

  • And if he were really ahead of the curve,

  • he would've just stayed the course of politics,

  • risen to the top,

  • and then killed so many more women with his policies.

  • (laughing)