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  • >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY, WELCOME TO A LIVE "LATE SHOW"

  • FOLLOWING THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE.

  • LET'S SAY HELLO TO JON BATISTE.

  • HELLO, JON.

  • >> Jon: YES!

  • SHOE FLY DON'T BOTHER ME.

  • ( LAUGHTER ) >> Stephen: I WAS WONDERING--

  • I KNEW YOU'D HAVE SOMETHING.

  • I KNEW SOMETHING.

  • >> Jon: MY GOODNESS.

  • WAY BACK IN NEW ORLEANS WHEN I WAS A KID, IT WAS A NURSERY

  • RHYME, BUT WITH THE NEW ORLEANS MARDI GRAS INDIAN BEAT

  • SHOE FLY DON'T BOTHER MESHOE FLY DON'T BOTHER ME

  • >> Stephen: WE SANG THAT WHEN I WAS A KID.

  • OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE "HAIL TO THE CHIEF "FOR PRESIDENTS.

  • THERE'S A LOT OF PRESIDENTIAL-SOUNDING MUSIC.

  • IS THERE ANY VICE PRESIDENTIAL-SOUNDING MUSIC?

  • >> Y YOU KNOW, I'M WORKING ON THAT.

  • IN FACT, I HAVE A NICE LITTLE PIECE I'M CRAFTING.

  • I WANT TO SHOW IT TO THE PEOPLE.

  • WHEN CAN WE DO THAT?

  • >> Stephen: I DON'T KNOW.

  • WE HAVE TO WORK IT OUT.

  • I HEARD IT AND I LOVE IT.

  • >> Jon: OOPTS KICKING, MAN.

  • >> Stephen: IT'S INTENSE.

  • FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THE ONGOING

  • SAGA ON THE SHOW, IT'S A SONG FOR KAMALA HARRIS.

  • AND I LOOK FORWARD TO IT, MY FRIEND.

  • CAN YOU PLAY US OUT TO PETE BUTTIGEIG.

  • >> Jon: YES, MAYOR PETE IN THE HOUSE.

  • ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: JON BATISTE,

  • EVERYBODY.

  • THANK YOU, JON.

  • SHOE FLY DON'T BOTHER ME ♪ >> Stephen: LADIES AND

  • GENTLEMEN MY GUEST TONIGHT WAS A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AND THE

  • FORMER MAYOR OF SOUTH BEND, INDIANA.

  • PLEASE WELCOME PETE BUTTIGEIG.

  • MAYOR PETE, THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

  • >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

  • EXCITED TO BE WITH YOU.

  • >> Stephen: WERE YOU IN THE HALL TONIGHT?

  • >> I WAS, YEAH.

  • FAR ENOUGH AWAY I DIDN'T SEE THE FLY, BUT I WAS THERE TO SEE

  • EVERYTHING ELSE.

  • >> Stephen: YOU MISSED ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING MOMENTS OF THE

  • EVENING, ACTUALLY.

  • IT WAS REMARKABLE HOW LONG THE FLY-- THAT'S A FLY I'M SURE

  • COULD HAVE GOTTEN OUT OF A SPIDER WEB FASTER.

  • I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HAIR SPRAY PENCE HAS IN THERE, BUT HE

  • REALLY LOOKED LIKE HE WAS GLUED TO THE SPOT.

  • >> I GUESS HE JUST GOT STUCK.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT WAS IT-- WHAT WAS IT LIKE IN THE ROOM?

  • WHAT WAS THE VIBE?

  • DID YOU HAVE TO WEAR A HAZMAT SUIT?

  • DID YOU FEEL NERVOUS AT ALL?

  • >> WE WERE MASKED UP.

  • THEY WERE VERY RIGOROUS AND SERIOUS ABOUT THE SOCIAL

  • DISTANCING.

  • I HAVE LOST COUNT OF THE NUMBER OF TIMES I'VE BEEN TESTED SINCE

  • WE STARTED THIS TRIP.

  • I FELT SAFE AND THOUGHT THE HOST DID A GOOD JOB.

  • IT WAS REALLY INTENSE IN THERE BECAUSE, OF COURSE, WE KNOW HOW

  • MUCH IS AT STAKE.

  • AND, YOU KNOW, AFTER WHAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK, I THINK A

  • LOT OF US WERE LOOKING FOR A DEBATE WHERE WE COULD ACTUALLY,

  • YOU KNOW, HEAR WHAT PEOPLE HAD TO SAY AND THERE WAS A GREAT

  • CHANCE FOR SENATOR HARRIS TO DIRECTLY MAKE THE CASE ABOUT NOT

  • JUST THE FAILURES OF THIS ADMINISTRATION, BUT WHAT WE

  • COULD HAVE IF WE HAD A BETTER ADMINISTRATION.

  • >> Stephen: IT WAS-- IT WAS, ACTUALLY, GOOD TO HEAR IDEAS.

  • IT WAS REFRESHING IN ITS-- IN ITS ORDINARINESS.

  • HOWEVER IMPORTANT THE CONVERSATION, IT WAS A

  • CONVERSATION.

  • IT WASN'T SOME SORT OF STRANGE DONNYBROOK.

  • IT WAS REPORTED THAT YOU PLAYED PENCE FOR SENATOR HARRIS' PREP.

  • IS THIS-- IS THIS TRUE, MR. MAYOR?

  • >> YOU KNOW, YES, YEAH, IT IS.

  • YOU KNOW, GETTING INTO THE MIND OF MIKE PENCE WAS NOT SOMETHING

  • I WOULD HAVE GUESSED WOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF MY CONTRIBUTION TO

  • THE CAMPAIGN WHEN I SAID I WOULD DO ANYTHING I COULD TO HELP JOE

  • BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS GET ELECTED.

  • OB, SPENT A LOT OF TIME DEALING WITH HIM, KNOW HIM WELL, AND

  • GLAD I WAS ABLE TO HELP IN THAT WAY.

  • >> Stephen: WELL, BECAUSE YOU WERE MAYOR OF SOUTH BEND WHEN HE

  • WAS GOVERNOR.

  • >> RIGHT.

  • >> Stephen: WHEN YOU ACTUALLY OT INTO HIS MIND, AFTER IT WAS

  • OVER, AFTER AN HOUR OF DEBATE PREP RPS WAS IT HARD TO GET OUT

  • OF CHARACTER?

  • >> YEAH, IN FACT, IT'S BEEN HAPPENING TO ME QUITE A BIT.

  • SOMETIMES I'LL BE DOING A REGULAR NEWS HIT AFTER A DAY OF

  • PREP AND I GET INTO THAT "I TRULY DO BELIEVE THAT THE

  • BROAD-SHOULDERED LEADERSHIP OF THIS PRESIDENT"...

  • >> Stephen: DON'T STOP.

  • I'M SURE "S.N.L." IS,LYING FOR SOMEBODY.

  • >> I'LL GIVE THEM A CALL.

  • >> Stephen: WHO PLAYED THE FLY IN THE MOCK DEBATES?

  • >> YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SAY THE FLY WAS ONLY THING THAT WE--

  • THAT WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT OR CONTEMPLATE.

  • THAT AND JUST HOW OFTEN PENCE WOULD INTERRUPT THE MODERATOR.

  • THAT WAS THE OTHER THING THAT TOOK ME BY SURPRISE.

  • JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE, ONE THING ABOUT HIM, HE'S PRETTY

  • PREDICTABLE.

  • YOU COULD TELL THAT JUST ALTERNATE REALITY FORCE FIELD

  • THAT HE'S BUILT UP AROUND HIMSELF, AND WE JUST WANTED TO

  • MAKE SURE THAT SHE WAS PREPARED FOR ALL OF THE ATTACKS, AS WELL

  • AS ALL OF THE WEIRD VERSIONS OF REALITY HE WAS GOING TO TRY TO

  • TELL ABOUT THIS PRESIDENT.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT'S HE LIKE WHEN THE CAMERAS ARE OFF?

  • LIKE, WHEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO NEGOTIATE WITH HIM OR DEAL WITH

  • HIM AS AT MAYOR, WHAT WAS HE LIKE JUST ONE-ON-ONE?

  • >> YOU KNOW, I MEAN, NOT THAT DIFFERENT.

  • YOU KNOW, POLITE, AND SPEAKS SLOWLY AND CALMLY, AND GENTLY.

  • BUT AS WE'VE SEEN IN KNOW-- AS WE SAW IN THE 2016 C DEBATE, TOO

  • THE SCARY THING IS HE'S PRETTY COMFORTABLE TELLING A LIE AND IN

  • A CALM, REASSURING VOICE THAT WOULD MAKE YOU THINK WHAT HE WAS

  • SAYING WAS GOD'S HONEST TRUTH.

  • >> Stephen: AGAIN, THAT IS SPOOKY.

  • I'M FEELING IT.

  • I'M FEELING IT.

  • YOUR HAIR ACTUALLY GETS WHITER, AND YOU...

  • YOU -- >> LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

  • I WONDER IF IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE PREP.

  • >> Stephen: NOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF ANSWERS TONIGHT THAT WERE

  • SORT OF DISCONCERTING FROM VICE PRESIDENT PENCE, BUT AS

  • DISCONCERTING WERE SOME OF THE THINGS HE DIDN'T ANSWER, LIKE,

  • WHY THERE WAS SUCH A MASSIVE FAILURE OF HIS CORONAVIRUS TASK

  • FORCE, AND THE WHITE HOUSE IN GENERAL RESPONDING TO THIS

  • CRISIS.

  • WHETHER THERE WOULD BE A PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER,

  • SHOULD THEY LOSE?

  • WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO PREEXISTING CONDITION COVERAGE.

  • WHAT ANSWERS DO YOU THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED AT THIS

  • POINT.

  • >> YEAH, I MEAN, PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER, THAT'S ONE OF

  • THE ABSOLUTE BASICS.

  • AND HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME ANSWER ON WHAT THEY WOULD

  • DO ON HEALTH CARE IF THEY SUCCESSFULLY STRIP AWAY

  • PREEXISTING CONDITION COVERAGE, ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY'VE BEEN

  • THERE FOR FOUR YEARS.

  • THAT'S WHY WHEN HE SAYS THERE'S SUDDENLY A PLAN IT'S HARD TO

  • BELIEVE HIM.

  • THE.

  • LINE IS THE PRESIDENT PUT HIM IN CHARGE OF LEADING THE

  • CORONAVIRUS TASK FORCE, AND BETWEEN THEM THEY'VE LED THE

  • WORST RESPONSE OF THIS PANDEMIC OF ANY COUNTRY IN THE DEVELOPED

  • WORLD.

  • I THINK THAT WAS THE REALITY BEHIND ALL OF THE ARGUMENTS THAT

  • WERE BEING EXCHANGED TONIGHT IS JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT SHE

  • HAD TO SAY WAS MORE IN TUNE WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY EXPERIENCING

  • AROUND US.

  • WHERE, YOU KNOW, NOT TO DOWNPLAY THE SWINE FLU, BUT, OBVIOUSLY,

  • THIS IS NOT THE SWINE FLU.

  • AND, OBVIOUSLY, THE ECONOMY IS NOT JUST FINE.

  • AND, OBVIOUSLY, THIS COUNTRY HASN'T DONE A GOOD JOB, THIS

  • ADMINISTRATION HASN'T DONE A GOOD JOB, FOR SURE, DEALING WITH

  • THE CORONAVIRUS.

  • AND WE DESERVE BETTER.

  • AND I THINK THAT'S THAT JUST BASIC REALITY WAS BEHIND

  • EVERYTHING AS WORTH THINKING ABOUT HOW TO TACK A DEVOID,

  • HURTING NATION AND GET IT INTO BETTER SHAPE.

  • I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS, AS SHE WAS ABLE TO POINT OUT,

  • NOT ONLY ARE DEMOCRATS UNITED, EVEN IN OUR FAMOUSLY BIG TENT,

  • BEHIND JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS, BUT A LOT OF

  • INDEPENDENTS AND A REMARKABLE NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS.

  • BECAUSE THIS TRANSENDS IDEOLOGY, THAT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE DIFFERENT

  • AND BETTER LEADERSHIP.

  • >> Stephen: ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE SWINE FLU COMPARISON

  • DOESN'T HOLD UP, AS SUSAN PAGE POINTED OUT AND AS DID SENATOR

  • HARRIS IS THAT ON JANUARY 28, THE ADMINISTRATION KNEW THAT IT

  • WAS DIFFERENT.

  • THEY KNEW THAT THIS EASILY COMMUNICABLE, AND ALSO COULD BE

  • COMMUNICTED BEFORE THERE WERE ANY SYMPTOMS, JUDGE THAT IT WAS

  • DEADLY, FAR MORE DEADLY THAN A NORMAL FLU, OR CERTAINLY THAN

  • THE SWINE FLU.

  • WHICH LEADS ME TO THE PRESIDENT'S DIAGNOSIS.

  • THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS WE STILL DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE

  • PRESIDENT'S DIAGNOSIS WHICH, AGAIN, THE VICE PRESIDENT WASN'T

  • WILLING TO BOTH COP TO OR EXPLAIN.

  • WHAT HAVE YOU MADE OF THE PRESIDENT'S BEHAVIOR EVER SINCE

  • HE WAS TAKEN TO WALTER REED?

  • >> IT'S REALLY DISTURBING.

  • I MEAN, FOR ONE THING, LET'S REMEMBER THAT TO THE BEST OF OUR

  • KNOWLEDGE, EVEN AS WE SPEAK, HE IS ON PSYCHOACTIVE STEROID

  • MEDICATION, AND HE'S MAKING POLICY DECISIONS.

  • YOU KNOW -- >> Stephen: AND HE DIDN'T

  • BRING ENOUGH FOR EVERYBODY!

  • >> I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN HE GOT THIS.

  • WE DON'T KNOW WHEN HE LAST TESTED.

  • WE DON'T KNOW WHO HE MIGHT HAVE INFECTED.

  • WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW HE IS DOING.

  • THE THING ABOUT THE ISSUE OF TRUST, WHEN YOU SEE THE POSITION

  • THAT HIS DOCTORS ARE IN, THE DOCTOR WHO REPRESENTS THREE OF

  • WHAT OUGHT TO BE MOST TRUSTED INSTITUTIONS IN THE WORLD,

  • RIGHT-- THE WHITE HOUSE, THE U.S. MILITARY, AND DOCTORS IN

  • MEDICINE BECAUSE HE'S A MILITARY DOCTOR WORKING AT THE WHITE

  • HOUSE.

  • AND WE'RE NOT EVEN SURE WHETHER WE CAN BELIEVE SOME BASIC STUFF

  • COMING OUT OF THERE.

  • IT SHOWS YOU HOW THIS PRESIDENT HAS DIMINISHED THE ENTIRE OFFICE

  • AND OUR INSTITUTIONS, IN ADDITION TO KNARGS HIMSELF AND,

  • MOST IMPORTANTLY, HARMING THIS COUNTRY BY FAILING TO GET ON TOP

  • OF THIS.

  • >> Stephen: NOW, DURING THE DEBATE, THE PRESIDENT I BELIEVE

  • TWEETED OUT THAT ALL U.S. COMBAT TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN WOULD BE

  • HOME BY CHRISTMAS.

  • AND I THINK I'VE GOT THAT-- CHECK ME ON THAT ONE.

  • I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE DID.

  • AS SOMEONE WHO SERVED IN THE MILITARY, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF

  • THE VICE PRESIDENT CLAIMING THAT THE PRESIDENT DOES WHAT'S BEST

  • FOUR TROOPS AND HONORS THEIR SACRIFICE, GIVEN THE ACCUSATIONS

  • THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AGAINST THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

  • ABOUT HOW HE DOES NOT VALUE THAT SACRIFICE AND DOES NOT

  • UNDERSTAND DUTY TO COUNTRY?

  • >> YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, FROM TIME TO TIME I GO TO SECTION 60 IN

  • ARLINGTON, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE I KNOW WHO DIDN'T MAKE

  • IT.

  • AND THEY'RE THERE.

  • AND IT'S SOMEWHERE ON THAT HALLOWED GROUND THAT HE MADE

  • THESE COMMENTS THAT HE DOESN'T GET IT, WHAT WAS IN IT FOR THEM?

  • AND IT-- YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SIGN A-- POLITICS ASIDE-- YOU HAVE TO

  • BELIEVE THAT YOUR COMMANDER IN CHIEF AND YOUR CHAIN OF COMMAND

  • WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU.

  • BUT HE REALLY DOESN'T CARE.

  • AND IT'S EASY TO BELIEVE THAT HE DOESN'T CARE, BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN

  • IT, NOT ONLY IN THESE RECENT REPORTS BUT AT EVERY TURN.OF

  • I MEAN, GOING BACK ALL THE WAY TO WHEN HE DECIDED AS A WEALTHY,

  • PRIVILEGED, CONNECTED KID, THAT HE'D LET SOME SUCKER GO IN HIS

  • PLACE, AS HE SAW IT, TO VIETNAM, TAKE A DISABILITY.

  • SO THERE'S NOTHING NEW ABOUT THIS.

  • BUT EVEN SO, THERE'S SOMETHING SHOCKING TO HEAR THE WAY HE

  • OPENLY TALKED ABOUT OUR TROOPS.

  • I HOPE TO GOD THAT IT'S TRUE THAT WE'LL HAVE A PEACEFUL, SAFE

  • RESOLUTION, GET OUR TROOPS HOME BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

  • BUT THIS PRESIDENT'S TRACK RECORD WITH KEEPING PERHAPSES TO

  • DO CERTAIN THING BY CERTAIN DATES IS NOT THE BEST.

  • SO I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.

  • >> Stephen: I JOIN YOU IN THAT.

  • I SAY A PRAYER THAT EVERYBODY SERVING OVERSEAS AND PUTTING

  • THEMSELVESES IN DANGER ON BEHALF THE UNITED STATES IS ABLE TO

  • COME HOME AND CELEBRATE THE HOLIDAYS WITH THEIR FAMILY.

  • I WISH THAT NEWS WAS COMING FROM A PRESIDENT WHO HAD STOOD UP TO

  • VLADIMIR PUTIN AND CONFRONTED HIM ABOUT BOUNTIES BOTH PUT ON

  • THE HEADS OF THOSE SAME SOLDIERS.

  • >> IT'S UNCONSCIONABLE.

  • I'M GLAD THAT HE WAS CALLED TO ACCOUNT, AT LEAST THE V.P. WAS

  • THIS EVENING, ALTHOUGH THERE WASN'T MUCH OF AN ANSWER ON

  • THAT.

  • >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TACK A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK,

  • MR. MAYOR.

  • BUT STICK AROUND, EVERYBODY, WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE