Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles an anonymous agent told the athletic that it's actually LeBron James, who recruits players for agent Rich Paul in clutch sports. The agent also said that a large number of players recruited by LeBron on behalf of Paul have been mismanaged. Another anonymous agent praising LeBron for the way he's helped set up Paul and Maverick Carter, as well as for the public stands that he takes on issues. Stephen A. What's your reaction to these anonymous comments that are being made about not only LeBron James, but Rich Paul? I think it's jealousy. I think it's people crying over spilt milk and, you know, Max and I talked about it, and there's nothing new here. We both agree with this for the most part. Max, Um, listen, here's the deal. If laws are being broken and rules are being violated, that's a conversation that I'm willing to listen to when you're doing the same thing others do or have tried to do. You're just doing it better. I don't wanna hear a damn word. That's really my mentality about this. As somebody who knows Rich Paul, who has spoken him on many occasions, one of the things I never hesitate to highlight is how bright his young brother is. Yes, he's friends with LeBron James. Yes, LeBron James has a lot to do with the initial success for him. Maverick Carter. Randy Memes, whose LeBron's right hand guy and just does everything for LeBron. Let's be very, very clear. The Adam Medal Sins of the World and others who have come into LeBron James life and do an extraordinary job of elevating while protecting his brand. They're all to be commended, but I can't say enough about Rich Paul and Maverick Carter. You speak Thio anyone in corporate America that has had to deal with Maverick Carter? They talk about the brilliance of this dude. He's just smart as hell. He's a visionary. Um, he's, you know, he's a giver as well. He's highly intelligent. But if you talk to Rich Paul about the n B A. And being a part of the NBN being an agent, this brother doesn't miss anything. Now you can debate, and I've had ages debate about who did the better contract that if they had this client, they would have got him a better number. They would have got him or guaranteed dollars and all of all of that stuff, you know? Listen, they've been They were saying that when David Falk, who's a phenomenal agent, had Michael Jordan and career and Alonzo Mourning and Patrick Ewing and stuff like that Davis, they said it when he had it. I remember when Bill Strickland was an agent representing Rasheed Wallace of the world and others back in the eighties, and Bill Strickland was an outstanding agent. The late Henry Thomas, God rest his wonderful so represented Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade. He was a phenomenal agent. Bill Duffy has been a star as an agent for many years. You know Aaron Goodwin. Every Goodwin thes are elite agents that know what the hell they're doing. That doesn't mean anybody can sit up there and look at Rich Paul and take away from what he's been doing. Rich Paul, LeBron James, One of the great, great things he's done, Max, and I'll hand it over to you after I say this. LeBron James didn't give to his friends. He set a path for them to make their own way so they could earn their stripes and therefore earn the right to represent him, knowing what they're doing. Cultivating resource is networking, gaining and elevating the level of knowledge of students shrewdness, etcetera, etcetera. And now they're pretty freaking elite at what they do. LeBron James deserves credit for giving his brothers the opportunity to do those things, but they deserve more credit for taking the bull by the horn and mastering their craft the way that they have. There are a few elite ages. I'm gonna always give love to the brothers in the agency business because nobody else does. So I'm gonna do it. And I mentioned a few of them. The Duffy's, the Goodwin brothers and all of that. I mean, listen and, boy, do I miss Henry Thomas. But I'm here to tell you something right now, which Paul is special. He's a special special talent at what he does because he works on it every single day, and he deserves credit where credit is due, not criticism or cynicism from those who wish they were in his position. So the mismanagement part, you think is just someone hating on him. It has really, without question. Without question, I think I think you can analyze whether how many clients or which ones have been managed well or not as well. And rank rich Paul, if you're another agent where you would like compared to whomever else, but I want to get to what Stephen A is talking about. I think it was Lou Weis or one of these legendary agents in the business with the following quote. I don't remember. So I mean, um, he was asked When was the first time you realized you had a conflict of interest? And he said, the moment I signed my second client right, like, this is the nature off the business. So, um, David Falk has MJ. Rob Pelinka had Kobe Rich Paul has LeBron and vice versa. M J had Faulk and Kobe had Pelinka and LeBron has Rich Paul because really, those agents worked for the players. I just said the power brokers in the NBA since Jordan have been Michael Jordan, Rob Pelinka and now Rich Paul, right and Maverick Carter. And there and those air the players are the ones calling the shots. The biggest, most powerful best player in the game, who is usually an extremely marketable wing who wins lots of championships. Jordan Kobe LeBron runs the league and there and there. And of course, they recruit for they want their agent to amass power. And the way their agent amasses power is by recruiting and signing other players. Now on the pecking order of that agents priorities. Who do you think is on top? Duh. It's Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant for political LeBron James. Ritual off course. It's their biggest client. It's the biggest piece of business. All agents are conflicted. This is the nature of the business. The best ones have a lot of pieces on the chessboard, and they figure out moves where, even if every move doesn't always benefit every client. Sometimes a client gets a little bit screwed there with that agent because they feel that a rising tide lifts all boats and that it's not about every tactical maneuver either helping or hurting them. It's about in the long run. Strategically being with his agent helps them. This is the nature of the business, and agents who are now complaining about rich Paul are crying. Every agent wants the most powerful guy to be in Rich Paul's position. They're crying. He has thanks for watching ESPN on YouTube for live streaming sports and premium content.