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  • We have a saying, "You've got to be in it to change it."

  • And that is my word, "In it to change it."

  • Try and try, never stop trying

  • because trying is what I did in my life, in my whole life.

  • I keep trying because everybody thinks I'm a no-good

  • and I keep trying until I become a too-good.

  • Great Britain was not great to its Commonwealth people

  • because we were of different colour.

  • I came and I walk along the road for about ten doors

  • and every one I knocked

  • that didn't have a card on it to say,

  • "No gypsies, no dogs, no Irish and no coloured."

  • A lady opened the door and saw me

  • and she didn't say a word, she just slammed the door.

  • I said to myself, "I think that's the norm here."

  • There was no rule about discrimination

  • and what you shouldn't do.

  • They thought they could do anything and get away with it.

  • When I tried to buy my first house

  • there was a big crowd of white people standing out,

  • and I thought they'd come to welcome me in their midst. No.

  • You know what they did? They said they didn't want me there.

  • I said, "Why did God make two colours

  • or three colour people?

  • Why didn't he just make everybody black,

  • everybody white, everybody pink?

  • We wouldn't have had this trouble."

  • I felt extremely degraded

  • and thought, "But what am I doing here?"

  • And I think I've just got to put up with it until something comes along.

  • We decided to fight anything that a black person was involved

  • to help them out.

  • Whilst we can obtain white labour in this city

  • we intend to go on engaging white labour rather than coloured labour.

  • In a country ruled by Britain, we drive our buses.

  • We drive aeroplanes, we drive helicopters, we drive trains.

  • So why is it in England we can't do it?

  • Well we don't want them on there that's the main reason.

  • There isn't going to be enough work for the whites, let alone the blacks.

  • They were not shifting.

  • We said, "We've got to take it to the other level."

  • We are going to form ourselves into a group and stop the buses.

  • We physically sit down in the road.

  • At the time, Arthur Scargill was having the miners' strike up north

  • and we were having the strike down here,

  • and at one stage they said,

  • "Arthur Scargill, Roy Hackett and Tony Benn

  • are the three worst persons in England."

  • In 1965, Harold Wilson stood up in Parliament.

  • The battle against racialism here in Britain...

  • And he said, "As from today,

  • any person discriminating against another

  • because of politics, religion, colour, creed or disability -

  • you have committed a crime punishable by five months in prison

  • or five thousand or both." And I cried.

  • I said, "Thank heavens for this."

  • I said, "We won."

  • They never taught it in school that this happened here

  • and I said, "Why, are they ashamed of what they've done to us?"

  • I talk to the primary schools.

  • I always tell them that we had to do that to bring you up

  • and never forget your roots.

  • Trying is a great thing

  • and if you ever fail one try another time

  • or try to improve what you fail on, you know, and try again.

  • Really because young people today, they are tomorrow's people

  • and we must try our best to make them be a good tomorrow's people.

We have a saying, "You've got to be in it to change it."

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