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  • -And the protests are finally starting to

  • cause some real change.

  • The packaging for Aunt Jemima is now --

  • [ Computer chimes ]

  • Sorry. I'm getting a Zoom call.

  • Keep rolling.

  • Tim Barnes, hey, this is our writer, Tim Barnes.

  • -Hey, Jimmy.

  • -Hey, Tim, last time we talked it seemed like

  • a lot of your white friends were checking in on you.

  • Is that still happening?

  • -No, that was like a three-day thing.

  • -Oh. Well, what can I do for you, Tim?

  • -Yeah, I'm sorry to interrupt,

  • but I heard what you just said about Aunt Jemima.

  • -I know. Isn't it great?

  • -I mean, sure.

  • -You don't seem very excited.

  • -I mean, it's great, Jimmy, but it's not real change.

  • I think we need to be careful right now of Band-Aids.

  • -Good point, Tim.

  • The fact that they are finally making Band-Aids

  • in different skin tones is really amazing.

  • -No. I mean, it's a metaphorical Band-Aid.

  • It doesn't actually mean real change.

  • It's great that brands are changing their imagery

  • and acknowledging people of color,

  • but the changes that need to happen

  • are going to have to be really monumental.

  • -Agreed. I think taking down these Confederate monuments

  • is the change that needs to happen.

  • It's very exciting.

  • -Okay, yes, I agree with

  • what you're saying about the monuments.

  • But I don't think you hear what I'm saying.

  • -It's not your job to explain racism to me, Tim.

  • I know that's my responsibility.

  • -I'm not trying to explain racism to you, Jimmy.

  • I'm trying to explain this conversation.

  • All of the syrup and the monuments

  • and everything are great, but they're just Band-Aids.

  • Metaphorical ones on the symptoms of racism

  • but not actual changes

  • and the things that are the cause of racism.

  • -Quaker Oats.

  • -Was that a question?

  • -New "Bachelor" is going to be black?

  • -Is that a question?

  • -Yes. No?

  • -Jimmy, think I all of these changes are important.

  • But these are also corporations we're talking about.

  • So, yes, there are Band-Aids and syrup and a black Bachelor,

  • but are they even doing this for the right reasons?

  • -I mean, I think he is really gonna try and find love, right?

  • -Oh, my God, Jimmy, I can't even explain to you how upset

  • I will be if he is not really there to find love.

  • If you're not there for love, don't be there.

  • -Thank you!

  • -Who do you think will be back from previous seasons?

  • -I mean, who knows?

  • -Well, okay. Who got voted off last season?

  • -Tim, I really got to get back to the show, man.

  • -Yeah, sorry.

  • Okay, yeah, just wanted to Zoom in about the syrup.

  • -All good. Anytime.

  • -So call me back so we can dish on the Bach?

  • -You bet.

  • Tim Barnes, everybody.

-And the protests are finally starting to

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Tonight Show Writer Tim Barnes on Why Aunt Jemima’s Brand Retirement Isn’t Enough

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