Pretty short list.

We're joined by one of the now it's Jamal Crawford and Jamal over your right shoulder.

There's a picture of Jordan in a wizard uniform and you in a Bulls uniform, and that last game he ever played in Chicago was against the Bulls.

You're there, you're part of it.

You take me back to being a young guy in the league, and here's one of the all time greats, like memories and moments that you shared with him.

What comes to mind?

It's unbelievable at that moment when the picture was taken, already had a relationship with already worked out with bit to his house and Marshall.

And almost one of the things you have my favorite player ever growing up best protected, interesting, gives you a different kind of confidence.

You somebody to lean on.

I talked to about anything, and once he said, like my game addressing it didn't matter.

Anybody else.

How do you approach someone that you've you in that regard when you're a young guy trying to break through and not feel like you're going to get maybe a cold shoulder or whatever.

What was your approach?

Well, actually, what happened was my dad was one of the draft process.

He was like, MJ likes your game like that, please.

And then I got drafted by the Bulls.

Know Tim Roemer called 6 30 mornings like, Hey, M J said, I really don't drive down there.

Looks I could get about 7 a.m. m.

J had been there since six AM, working out there for getting the defense's slides.

Mintz was in the weight room myself and intend Grover, and we're talking like, Hey, this somebody work out.

I'm like Okay, no, I'm driving back home.

I couldn't do you just Michael Jordan in relation took off.

That's next summer.

I worked out all the time played to get inside that relationship, to stay for the young people that are in the game, and it's fascinating.

I must have said this 100 times throughout the process of this last dance.

I realized for the younger folks they didn't see him.

They just didn't see him.

What would you say to them that you would want them to understand the documentary gives us a great glimpse, but that you experience.

What would you want them to understand about what was different about this dude?

German Iwas.

A lot of guys and talented.

A lot of guys have a lot of athletic ability, you know.

They have a higher Q.

They have tougher this, you know, they have a will to win, but his on a different level in every aspect.

You know, even the greatest players.

And they have 10 super this guy.

So he give anything.

And he didn't try to convince people that he was the greatest.

He just wanted changed it be the brakes and the best version of themselves.

And he was Michael Jordan every single night.

I think the young generation is get a chance to see that for the modern day player free agencies, different friendships across teams are different.

Is there enough room in people's heart for the hate that is required?

Toe have the singular focus that Jordan had?

Does it exists now?

I'm not sure it does, To be honest with you, it was just a different time back then you get a chance to meet so many different guys age started now with social media and connect with a guy who lives across gushing from from stand contact at that time, You're kind of from where you're from, is saying that area you may see one guy can't one time in college kind of have that relationship.

It's just a different time, you know, with him.

I just feel like he would have found a way to be.

He was gonna be.

Regardless, no matter what time, period, no matter what was going on, he was gonna be all right.

Let's get you a job on the way out here.

You can remains your guy.

Seattle guy and I've been on social media.

I've been active as well.

Look, I know you turn 40.

You don't look a day over 20 but I know you could still go out and get 40.

When the MBA comes back, you're still ready to go like I mean, you're still the bucket, I'm sure.

Can we get you a job?

What's what's the What's the daily that you're working on?

Why I turned 20 twice.

I turned 40.

I understand.

Radio great.

Working out every single day, All right?

I mean, look, shooter shoot buckets are always bucket scores.

Never stop scoring.

But if it if the end has come, we've seen how hard it is for guys like Jordan.

Walk away.

If it is a wrap for you.

19,000.

Some hunt.

19,000.

Some odd points.

Are you at peace with it?

If the book is written, I'm at peace because I have my family on the other side of that.

On the whole of the chapter, I could get one.

Eventually I will get to regardless.

So I feel like I can't lose.

I'm not sure ever Necessarily get over it like you're supposed to be out here.

You're here and say all these wonderful things about you.

So you know that part up yet he swimming the way I feel like I can.

Great options.

Let's stay healthy.

I know you're never going to stop working at it, and I have to believe the phone will ring whenever the MBA gets back.

Because ah, guy like you could certainly help.

A team is trying to get over the hump, and it's always good Teoh talk.

And I I wish you all the very best thanks for taking a little bit.

Time to visit with us tonight.

Thank you so much, Scott.

Appreciation.

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