Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles >> Sandra: FOX NEWS ALERT ON >> Sandra: FOX NEWS ALERT ON THIS TUESDAY MORNING, ON THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND AS OUR ECONOMY REOPENS ALONG WITH MANY OTHER COUNTRIES. THE MARKETS ARE UP BIG THIS MORNING ON POSITIVE NEWS OVER VACCINES. THE DOW IS UP 675 POINTS SO IT LOOKS LIKE THINGS ARE TURNING A CORNER, AT LEAST FOR NOW. "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" FEATURING THIS HEADLINE THIS MORNING FOR ECONOMY, THIS SHUTDOWN MAY BE OVER. HOTEL BOOKINGS AND THERE ARE SIGNS THE ECONOMY IS COMING BACK TO LIFE. LARRY, GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME. IT FEELS SO GOOD TO BE ABLE TO TALK POSITIVELY ABOUT THE REOPENING OF THE COUNTRY, THE STOCK MARKET IS RISING. THE S&P 500 BACK ABOVE 3,000 SINCE MARCH 5TH WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABOVE THAT LEVEL. I HAVE NOT ASKED TO PREDICT WHERE THE STOCK MARKET IS GOING BECAUSE I KNOW THE ANSWER. BUT HAS THE ECONOMY HIT BOTTOM AMID THE PANDEMIC? >> I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE. I MEAN I THINK YOU ARE IN A TURNING ZONE PHASE AND AS WE'VE SAID TIME AND AGAIN, THE SECOND QUARTER IS GOING TO BE A ROUGH QUARTER. IT'S A PANDEMIC CONTRACTION. LOTS OF HARDSHIP ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS AND A LOT OF HEARTBREAK THERE. BUT THESE SIGNS, AND I THINK THE MARKET IS A RALLYING ON SIGNS, THESE SIGNS ARE SHOWING A LOT MORE GLIMMERS OF HOPE AND GROWTH AND ASSIGN SEEM TO BE MOUNTING. THE CONSUMER CONFIDENCE NUMBER, THE NUMBER WAS UP A BIT WHICH WAS GOOD BUT IN SIX MONTHS THEY HAD THE SIX-MONTH EXPECTATION COMPONENT AND THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE A BIG TAKEOFF AND CONSUMER CONFIDENCE. I THINK FOLKS SEE THAT THE VIRUS FIRST OF ALL IS FLATTENING ON ITS WAY DOWN AND THEY SEE BUSINESS OPENING, THEY THEMSELVES FEEL LIKE GOING OUT AND SPENDING AND THESE ARE ALL VERY POSITIVE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WILL SHOW UP IN THE DATA, PERHAPS IN JULY OR AUGUST. THE THIRD QUARTER COULD BE THE FASTEST GROWING QUARTER IN U.S. HISTORY AND THE WHOLE SECOND HALF IS GOING TO BE VERY STRONG AS WE REOPEN THE ECONOMY AND AS AMERICANS COME BACK TO RECOVERY. THIS IS A TRANSITION TO RECOVERY, AND AS THE PRESIDENT SAID, TRANSITION TO GREATNESS. >> Ed: LARRY YOU ARE LOOKING AT POSITIVE HOPEFUL SIGNS, AND YOU HAVE SOME WE HAVE SLOW WALKING ON REOPENING PARTS OF THE ECONOMY PERHAPS TO HURT HIM POLITICALLY. THE WALL STREET EDITORIAL JOURNAL, THE BLUE STATE LOCKDOWN BLUES COME THE SLOW REOPENING LIBERAL STATES WILL HURT THE RECOVERY AND THEY SAY CALIFORNIA, NEW YORK AND NEW JERSEY MAKE UP 30% OF THE ECONOMIES OF THEIR BUSINESS CARNAGE WILL AFFECT FARMERS, MEAT PROCESSORS, TRUCKERS, MANUFACTURERS AND SUPPLIERS NATIONWIDE. WHAT'S YOUR MESSAGE TO SOME OF THE STATES LIKE CALIFORNIA THAT ARE MOVING SO SLOWLY? >> THESE ARE STATE DECISIONS AND GOVERNOR DECISIONS. THE PRESIDENT HAD SAID I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE REOPENING. I WANT TO SEE THE BUSINESSES REOPEN AND THEN THE JOB NUMBERS ARE GOING TO COME IN MUCH, MUCH BETTER. BUT IT'S GOT TO BE DONE SAFELY. IT HAS TO BE DONE SAFELY. I CAN'T MAKE THAT JUDGMENT, I WILL LET THE PRESIDENT MAKE THAT JUDGMENT, AND HE HAS A BIRD'S-EYE VIEW PERHAPS THAN I DO. BUT I THINK THOSE GOVERNORS KNOW THAT FOLKS WANT TO GO BACK TO WORK AND FOLKS WANT TO RESTART THEIR BUSINESSES. THERE ARE TINY SIGNS EVEN IN SOME OF THOSE STATES OF THE REOPENING. SO WE WILL SEE, IT'S GOT TO BE DONE SAFELY AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE SOCIAL DISTANCING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE TESTING AND SO FORTH AND NOBODY DISAGREES WITH THAT. I LIKE TO SEE IT FAST BUT IT'S GOT TO BE SAFE. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE -- WE BELIEVE IN PERSONAL FREEDOM. A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO EXERCISE THEIR PERSONAL FREEDOM AND TO GET OUT THERE AND START SHOPPING AND RUNNING THEIR SMALL BUSINESSES AGAIN. SO WE WILL SEE. THE POINT IS AT THE MARGIN, WE WILL BE MAKING VERY GOOD PROGRESS AND WE HAVE THESE GLIMMERS OF HOPE, WE HAVE THESE GREEN SHOOTS. TEN YEARS AGO I USED TO CALL THEM MUSTARD SEEDS THAT WILL GROW UP INTO A MAJOR RECOVERY. I THINK THE SAME THING IS HAPPENING NOW ONLY ON A LARGER SCALE. >> Sandra: BUT ONLY YOU AS AN ECONOMIST TO THE PRESIDENT HAVE BEEN PLANNING THE UNKNOWN AND THE UNCERTAINTIES. AND SHE DOESN'T THINK THAT THE U.S. STOCK MARKET IS TOO OPTIMISTIC AT THIS POINT, AND WHAT HE FEARS IS THE VULNERABILITY IS CONSIDERING OUR SKY-HIGH UNEMPLOYMENT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, THE UNCERTAINTY OVER THE VACCINE AND A SECOND POSSIBLE WAVE OF THE CORONAVIRUS. WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE ARE THOSE HIDDEN VULNERABILITIES FOR OUR ECONOMY? >> YOU KNOW, YOU TALK TO OUR HEALTH EXPERTS AND THEY WILL SAY, WE KNOW SO MUCH MORE AND WE HAVE SO MUCH MORE EXPERIENCE NOW. LET'S ALSO GO, WE ARE REALLY DOING LIGHTNING SPEED THE FIRST OF ALL ON THE DEVELOPER TO VACCINES AND THE DEVELOPER TO THERAPIES AND MEDICINES WHICH I THINK ARE VERY IMPORTANT. I THINK PEOPLE WOULD BE HAPPY OR EVEN TO KNOW THAT IF THEY GET THE VIRUS, THERE IS A MEDICINE AND A THERAPY THAT THEY COULD TAKE TO DEAL WITH IT RIGHT AWAY. THE SCIENTISTS AND THE BIOTECH COMPANIES, THE PRESIDENT HAS ALWAYS STRESSED THE PRIVATE SECTOR COMPONENT AND THAT'S PART OF THE BRILLIANCE OF HIS ECONOMIC THINKING.