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  • GLAD TO WATCH IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, RACHEL.

  • THANK YOU SO MUCH, RACHEL. >> THANKS, ARI.

  • >> THANKS, ARI. GOOD LUCK TO TONIGHT.

  • GOOD LUCK TO TONIGHT. >> TONIGHT DONALD TRUMP FACES

  • >> TONIGHT DONALD TRUMP FACES MOUNTING PRESSURE.

  • MOUNTING PRESSURE. A FEDERAL JURY WILL TAKE THIS

  • A FEDERAL JURY WILL TAKE THIS WEEKEND OFF BEFORE RESUMING

  • WEEKEND OFF BEFORE RESUMING THESE DELIBERATIONS ON THE FATE

  • THESE DELIBERATIONS ON THE FATE OF HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER PAUL

  • OF HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER PAUL MANAFORT AND BOB MUELLER NOW

  • MANAFORT AND BOB MUELLER NOW TONIGHT RECOMMENDING JAIL TIME

  • TONIGHT RECOMMENDING JAIL TIME FOR GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS.

  • FOR GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS. NEW WARNINGS THAT REPUBLICANS

  • NEW WARNINGS THAT REPUBLICANS NOT ONLY TRAIL DEMOCRATS BY SIX

  • NOT ONLY TRAIL DEMOCRATS BY SIX POINTS IN POLLING OVER WHO COULD

  • POINTS IN POLLING OVER WHO COULD WIN THE MID-TERMS BUT A BLUE

  • WIN THE MID-TERMS BUT A BLUE WAVE COULD MARK AN END TO THE

  • WAVE COULD MARK AN END TO THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY.

  • TRUMP PRESIDENCY. THAT MAY BE MOTIVATING FOR MANY

  • THAT MAY BE MOTIVATING FOR MANY LIBERAL VOTERS.

  • LIBERAL VOTERS. TAKE THIS NEW VIDEO THAT'S

  • TAKE THIS NEW VIDEO THAT'S AIMING TO RILE UP CONSERVATIVE

  • AIMING TO RILE UP CONSERVATIVE TURNOUT BY ARGUING THIS IS NOW A

  • TURNOUT BY ARGUING THIS IS NOW A WAR FOR THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY.

  • WAR FOR THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY. IT COMES FROM A MULTIMILLION

  • IT COMES FROM A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CAMPAIGN BY FORMER TRUMP

  • DOLLAR CAMPAIGN BY FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN CHAIR STEVE BANNON

  • CAMPAIGN CHAIR STEVE BANNON RETURNING FROM EXILE TO HELP

  • RETURNING FROM EXILE TO HELP CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS

  • CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS WHETHER THEY WANT HIS HELP OR

  • WHETHER THEY WANT HIS HELP OR NOT.

  • NOT. BANNON IS ONE OF THE MOST

  • BANNON IS ONE OF THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL FIGURES IN U.S.

  • CONTROVERSIAL FIGURES IN U.S. POLITICS FOR MANY REASONS.

  • POLITICS FOR MANY REASONS. BUT IT CAN BE HARD TO SEE WHAT'S

  • BUT IT CAN BE HARD TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MIDTERMS

  • HAPPENING IN THE MIDTERMS WITHOUT SEEING WHAT HE'S UP TO.

  • WITHOUT SEEING WHAT HE'S UP TO. PEOPLE CAN'T DECIDE WHAT TO DO

  • PEOPLE CAN'T DECIDE WHAT TO DO ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS IN OUR

  • ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS IN OUR POLITICS IF WHAT'S HAPPENING IS

  • POLITICS IF WHAT'S HAPPENING IS NOT EXPOSED OR NOT KNOWN OR NOT

  • NOT EXPOSED OR NOT KNOWN OR NOT CONFRONTED.

  • CONFRONTED. WHILE BANNON HAS TRIED A BIG

  • WHILE BANNON HAS TRIED A BIG ROLE IN POLITICS, HE RARELY GOES

  • ROLE IN POLITICS, HE RARELY GOES ON TV, HE HAS NEVER TAKEN

  • ON TV, HE HAS NEVER TAKEN QUESTIONS FROM AN MSNBC ANALYST

  • QUESTIONS FROM AN MSNBC ANALYST ON AIR.

  • ON AIR. THAT CHANGES TONIGHT.

  • THAT CHANGES TONIGHT. PLUS, INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS,

  • PLUS, INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS, ADVERSARIAL REACTION AND FACT

  • ADVERSARIAL REACTION AND FACT CHECKING FROM OUR PANEL OF

  • CHECKING FROM OUR PANEL OF JOURNALISTS AND POLITICAL

  • JOURNALISTS AND POLITICAL ANALYSTS WHO ARE WITH ME LIVE.

  • ANALYSTS WHO ARE WITH ME LIVE. I WANT TO BE CLEAR UP FRONT,

  • I WANT TO BE CLEAR UP FRONT, THIS INTERVIEW HAD NO GROUND

  • THIS INTERVIEW HAD NO GROUND RULES, NOTHING OFF LIMITS.

  • RULES, NOTHING OFF LIMITS. WE TALKED ABOUT BANNON'S PROJECT

  • WE TALKED ABOUT BANNON'S PROJECT FOR THE MID-TERMS, HIS DONORS,

  • FOR THE MID-TERMS, HIS DONORS, HIS POLITICAL RECORD, THE TIME'S

  • HIS POLITICAL RECORD, THE TIME'S UP MOVEMENT, HIS VIEW OF JAMES

  • UP MOVEMENT, HIS VIEW OF JAMES COMEY'S FIRES AND WHY MUELLER

  • COMEY'S FIRES AND WHY MUELLER VIEWS HIM AS A WITNESS TO BOTH

  • VIEWS HIM AS A WITNESS TO BOTH THE COLLUSION AND OBSTRUCTION

  • THE COLLUSION AND OBSTRUCTION INVESTIGATION THAT'S GOING ON

  • INVESTIGATION THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

  • RIGHT NOW. BANNON ALSO RECOUNTS THE FIRST

  • BANNON ALSO RECOUNTS THE FIRST TIME HE AND MUELLER EVER SPOKE

  • TIME HE AND MUELLER EVER SPOKE AT THE DOORWAY TO DONALD TRUMP'S

  • AT THE DOORWAY TO DONALD TRUMP'S OVAL OFFICE.

  • OVAL OFFICE. HERE IS PART OF OUR DISCUSSION

  • HERE IS PART OF OUR DISCUSSION STARTING WITH THE MIDTERMS.

  • STARTING WITH THE MIDTERMS. >> LET'S START WITH THE

  • >> LET'S START WITH THE MIDTERMS.

  • MIDTERMS. IF THEY WERE HELD TODAY, WHO DO

  • IF THEY WERE HELD TODAY, WHO DO YOU THINK WOULD WIN THE HOUSE?

  • YOU THINK WOULD WIN THE HOUSE? >> I THINK IF THEY WERE HELD

  • >> I THINK IF THEY WERE HELD TODAY, WE'D HAVE A TOUGH TIME

  • TODAY, WE'D HAVE A TOUGH TIME HOLDING THE HOUSE.

  • HOLDING THE HOUSE. I REALLY DO.

  • I REALLY DO. I THINK IT COULD BE NORTH OF 25

  • I THINK IT COULD BE NORTH OF 25 MAYBE 30 SEATS.

  • MAYBE 30 SEATS. MAYBE NORTH OF THAT.

  • MAYBE NORTH OF THAT. THE PEOPLE ARE PROJECTING 45 OR

  • THE PEOPLE ARE PROJECTING 45 OR 50 SEATS.

  • 50 SEATS. I BELIEVE BY NOVEMBER 6th, WE'RE

  • I BELIEVE BY NOVEMBER 6th, WE'RE GOING TO WIN THIS.

  • GOING TO WIN THIS. I THINK ALL THIS TAKES IS PEOPLE

  • I THINK ALL THIS TAKES IS PEOPLE ON OUR SIDE OF THE FOOTBALL

  • ON OUR SIDE OF THE FOOTBALL FOCUSSING ON WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN.

  • FOCUSSING ON WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN. THIS IS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE ON

  • THIS IS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE ON PRESIDENT TRUMP.

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP. THIS ELECTION WILL COME AS A

  • THIS ELECTION WILL COME AS A REFERENDUM ON HIM.

  • REFERENDUM ON HIM. HE PERMEATES THE ENTIRE

  • HE PERMEATES THE ENTIRE POLITICAL CULTURE.

  • POLITICAL CULTURE. I THINK THOSE AROUND HIM ARE

  • I THINK THOSE AROUND HIM ARE TELLING HIM, HEY, IT IS OKAY TO

  • TELLING HIM, HEY, IT IS OKAY TO LOSE THE HOUSE.

  • LOSE THE HOUSE. YOU CAN WORK WITH THE DEMOCRATS

  • YOU CAN WORK WITH THE DEMOCRATS AND WORK WITH A DEMOCRAT HOUSE

  • AND WORK WITH A DEMOCRAT HOUSE IN 2020 IS BAD ADVICE.

  • IN 2020 IS BAD ADVICE. I HAVE MADE A FILM THAT'S

  • I HAVE MADE A FILM THAT'S FOCUSSED ON GETTING OUT THE

  • FOCUSSED ON GETTING OUT THE TRUMP BASE, THE DEPLORABLES PLUS

  • TRUMP BASE, THE DEPLORABLES PLUS THE BLUE COLLAR DEMOCRATS.

  • THE BLUE COLLAR DEMOCRATS. THE OPPOSITION PARTY MEDIA AND

  • THE OPPOSITION PARTY MEDIA AND THE DEMOCRATS SUCCEED IN ONE

  • THE DEMOCRATS SUCCEED IN ONE THING.

  • THING. I THINK THEY DEAD GET A DO-OVER

  • I THINK THEY DEAD GET A DO-OVER TO 2016 AND I THINK THIS IS HIS

  • TO 2016 AND I THINK THIS IS HIS FIRST RE-ELECT.

  • FIRST RE-ELECT. >> YOU SAID YOU WILL SAVE THE

  • >> YOU SAID YOU WILL SAVE THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY IN THESE

  • TRUMP PRESIDENCY IN THESE MIDTERMS.

  • MIDTERMS. DOES HE KNOW HE NEEDS YOU TO

  • DOES HE KNOW HE NEEDS YOU TO SAVE HIM?

  • SAVE HIM? >> I DON'T THINK THE QUOTE WAS

  • >> I DON'T THINK THE QUOTE WAS WE'RE GOING TO SAVE HIM.

  • WE'RE GOING TO SAVE HIM. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET

  • WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET THIS MESSAGE FOCUSSED.

  • THIS MESSAGE FOCUSSED. THE MESSAGE IS ABOUT PRESIDENT

  • THE MESSAGE IS ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP, A REFERENDUM ON PRESIDENT

  • TRUMP, A REFERENDUM ON PRESIDENT TRUMP.

  • TRUMP. TO ME IT IS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE.

  • TO ME IT IS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE. I THINK THE DEMOCRATS ARE

  • I THINK THE DEMOCRATS ARE RUNNING AS AN IMPEACHMENT

  • RUNNING AS AN IMPEACHMENT CAMPAIGN.

  • CAMPAIGN. I THINK OUR SIDE HAS TO

  • I THINK OUR SIDE HAS TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

  • UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU JUST CAN'T RUN ON TAX CUTS.

  • YOU JUST CAN'T RUN ON TAX CUTS. YOU HAVE TO RUN ON THE ENTIRE

  • YOU HAVE TO RUN ON THE ENTIRE PACKAGE OF THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY.

  • PACKAGE OF THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY. >> YOU THINK IMPEACHMENT IS ON

  • >> YOU THINK IMPEACHMENT IS ON THE BALLOT WHY?

  • THE BALLOT WHY? >> THE GRASS ROOTS OF THE

  • >> THE GRASS ROOTS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAVE PUT IT ON

  • DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAVE PUT IT ON THE BALLOT AND SO HAS NANCY PEL

  • THE BALLOT AND SO HAS NANCY PEL LOW SIS

  • LOW SIS PELOSI

  • PELOSI PELOSI.

  • PELOSI. IF THE CONGRESSMEN IN YOUR

  • IF THE CONGRESSMEN IN YOUR DISTRICT, YOU HAVE TO COME OUT

  • DISTRICT, YOU HAVE TO COME OUT TO HELP PRESIDENT TRUMP.

  • TO HELP PRESIDENT TRUMP. THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THESE

  • THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THESE DISTRICTS IN JULY IN 90 DEGREE

  • DISTRICTS IN JULY IN 90 DEGREE HEAT GOING DOOR TO DOOR.

  • HEAT GOING DOOR TO DOOR. THE REASON THEY'RE GOING DOOR TO

  • THE REASON THEY'RE GOING DOOR TO DOOR IS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT

  • DOOR IS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT

  • THE IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.

  • TRUMP. ALL WE'RE SAYING IS, HEY, IT IS

  • ALL WE'RE SAYING IS, HEY, IT IS ALREADY ON THE BALLOT.

  • ALREADY ON THE BALLOT. LET'S DO IT.

  • LET'S DO IT. >> YOUR NEW GROUP OF CITIZENS OF

  • >> YOUR NEW GROUP OF CITIZENS OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.

  • THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. YOU SAY WE'RE AT WAR.

  • YOU SAY WE'RE AT WAR. WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN?

  • WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? >> THE FILM SAYS TRUMP AT WAR.

  • >> THE FILM SAYS TRUMP AT WAR. TRUMP IS AT WAR ABOUT THE

  • TRUMP IS AT WAR ABOUT THE POLITICAL CLASS.

  • POLITICAL CLASS. >> IT IS YOUR FILM.

  • >> IT IS YOUR FILM. >> IT IS A FILM CALLED "TRUMP AT

  • >> IT IS A FILM CALLED "TRUMP AT WAR."

  • WAR." IT SHOWS YOU HE IS AT WAR WITH

  • IT SHOWS YOU HE IS AT WAR WITH THE OPPOSITION PARTY MEDIA AND

  • THE OPPOSITION PARTY MEDIA AND BASICALLY HE'S AT ECONOMIC WAR

  • BASICALLY HE'S AT ECONOMIC WAR WITH CHINA.

  • WITH CHINA. AND, SO, I THINK THAT WHEN YOU

  • AND, SO, I THINK THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS FILM YOU SEE THAT

  • LOOK AT THIS FILM YOU SEE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS A DISRUPTER

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP IS A DISRUPTER AND AN INNOVATOR.

  • AND AN INNOVATOR. YOU SEE HE IS KIND OF DELIVERING

  • YOU SEE HE IS KIND OF DELIVERING ON THE PROMISES HE PUT FORWARD

  • ON THE PROMISES HE PUT FORWARD TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THAT

  • TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THAT HE'S NOT INTO JUST MANAGING THE

  • HE'S NOT INTO JUST MANAGING THE DECLINE OF THE COUNTRY, BUT HE'S

  • DECLINE OF THE COUNTRY, BUT HE'S GOING TO TRY TO TURN THE COUNTRY

  • GOING TO TRY TO TURN THE COUNTRY AROUND.

  • AROUND. IT IS A FILM THAT IS FOCUSSED ON

  • IT IS A FILM THAT IS FOCUSSED ON GETTING OUR BASE JACKED UP AND

  • GETTING OUR BASE JACKED UP AND OUR BASE OUT.

  • OUR BASE OUT. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T GET OUR BASE

  • BECAUSE IF WE DON'T GET OUR BASE OUT ON NOVEMBER 6th, WE'LL HAVE

  • OUT ON NOVEMBER 6th, WE'LL HAVE A BAD DAY AT THE POLLS.

  • A BAD DAY AT THE POLLS. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE

  • IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE TRUMP VOTER, THE INVISIBLE TRUMP

  • TRUMP VOTER, THE INVISIBLE TRUMP VOTER SHOW UP LIKE A

  • VOTER SHOW UP LIKE A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

  • PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. >> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO

  • >> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO REPUBLICANS WHO SAY WHY SHOULD

  • REPUBLICANS WHO SAY WHY SHOULD THEY TAKE YOUR HELP IF YOU

  • THEY TAKE YOUR HELP IF YOU HAVEN'T BACKED WINNING

  • HAVEN'T BACKED WINNING CANDIDATES THUS FAR?

  • CANDIDATES THUS FAR? >> I THINK I DID BACK WINNING

  • >> I THINK I DID BACK WINNING CANDIDATES IN THE PRIMARY.

  • CANDIDATES IN THE PRIMARY. THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT IN

  • THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT IN ALABAMA, ROY MOORE SPECIFICALLY.

  • ALABAMA, ROY MOORE SPECIFICALLY. ROY MOORE WOULD HAVE WON THAT

  • ROY MOORE WOULD HAVE WON THAT ELECTION IF MITCH McCONNELL AND

  • ELECTION IF MITCH McCONNELL AND THESE OTHERS HADN'T TURNED

  • THESE OTHERS HADN'T TURNED AGAINST HIM.

  • AGAINST HIM. WE HAVE A VERY GOOD FEEL ON HOW

  • WE HAVE A VERY GOOD FEEL ON HOW TO WIN.

  • TO WIN. I HAVE BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN

  • I HAVE BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN THIS SINCE THE TEA PARTY, YOU

  • THIS SINCE THE TEA PARTY, YOU KNOW, THE TEA PARTY ELECTION IN

  • KNOW, THE TEA PARTY ELECTION IN 2010.

  • 2010. SO I THINK WE HAVE A VERY GOOD

  • SO I THINK WE HAVE A VERY GOOD IDEA OF HOW TO MAKE THESE FILMS

  • IDEA OF HOW TO MAKE THESE FILMS AND GET PEOPLE OUT.

  • AND GET PEOPLE OUT. >> HOW CAN YOU BLAME REPUBLICANS

  • >> HOW CAN YOU BLAME REPUBLICANS IN WASHINGTON FOR WHAT HAPPENED

  • IN WASHINGTON FOR WHAT HAPPENED IN ALABAMA?

  • IN ALABAMA? >> HE CAME OUT ON SUNDAY MORNING

  • >> HE CAME OUT ON SUNDAY MORNING ON NATIONAL TV AND SAID I'M NOT

  • ON NATIONAL TV AND SAID I'M NOT VOTING FOR ROY MOORE.

  • VOTING FOR ROY MOORE. McCONNELL WAS THE GUY -- IT IS

  • McCONNELL WAS THE GUY -- IT IS THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT

  • THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT THAT DUMPED ALL THIS STUFF TO

  • THAT DUMPED ALL THIS STUFF TO THE WASHINGTON POST THAT TURNED

  • THE WASHINGTON POST THAT TURNED AGAINST HIM WHEN THEIR CANDIDATE

  • AGAINST HIM WHEN THEIR CANDIDATE GOT SMOKED IN THE PRIMARY.

  • GOT SMOKED IN THE PRIMARY. SO IT WAS THE REPUBLICAN

  • SO IT WAS THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT THAT SAID FROM DAY

  • ESTABLISHMENT THAT SAID FROM DAY ONE, WE'RE NOT ONLY GOING TO

  • ONE, WE'RE NOT ONLY GOING TO SUPPORT ROY MOORE, THEY WERE

  • SUPPORT ROY MOORE, THEY WERE MEETING TO UNSEAT ROY MOORE AND

  • MEETING TO UNSEAT ROY MOORE AND UNSEAT HIM IF HE WON.

  • UNSEAT HIM IF HE WON. THAT WAS THE REPUBLICAN

  • THAT WAS THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT TURNING AGAINST

  • ESTABLISHMENT TURNING AGAINST HIM.

  • HIM. >> HOW MUCH MONEY DOES YOUR

  • >> HOW MUCH MONEY DOES YOUR GROUP HAVE?

  • GROUP HAVE? >> WE'VE RAISED, YOU KNOW, QUITE

  • >> WE'VE RAISED, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.

  • A BIT OF MONEY. WE MADE A PRETTY IMPRESSIVE

  • WE MADE A PRETTY IMPRESSIVE FILM.

  • FILM. I HAVE A 25 PERSON STAFF.

  • I HAVE A 25 PERSON STAFF. WE RUN A WAR ROOM EVERY DAY.

  • WE RUN A WAR ROOM EVERY DAY. WE DO TALKING POINTS.

  • WE DO TALKING POINTS. >> $5 MILLION?

  • >> $5 MILLION? >> OVER $5 MILLION, YES.

  • >> OVER $5 MILLION, YES. >> OVER $10 MILLION.

  • >> OVER $10 MILLION. >> I DON'T WANT TO PUT A

  • >> I DON'T WANT TO PUT A SPECIFIC NUMBER ON IT.

  • SPECIFIC NUMBER ON IT. >> IS IT FAIR TO SAY BETWEEN $5

  • >> IS IT FAIR TO SAY BETWEEN $5 MILLION AND $10 MILLION.

  • MILLION AND $10 MILLION. >> WE HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES

  • >> WE HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES POURING IN FROM DO NORS AND WE

  • POURING IN FROM DO NORS AND WE WILL START A SMALL DO NOR

  • WILL START A SMALL DO NOR PROGRAM.

  • PROGRAM. I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM

  • I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM GETTING RESOURCES.

  • GETTING RESOURCES. YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT WAS WITH

  • YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT WAS WITH BREITBART OR DOING OTHER THINGS.

  • BREITBART OR DOING OTHER THINGS. >> YOU'RE ALSO VERY RICH AND YOU

  • >> YOU'RE ALSO VERY RICH AND YOU KNOW A LOT OF RICH PEOPLE.

  • KNOW A LOT OF RICH PEOPLE. >> I HAVE HAD A PRETTY GOOD RUN

  • >> I HAVE HAD A PRETTY GOOD RUN AND I KNOW SOME HIGH NET WORTH

  • AND I KNOW SOME HIGH NET WORTH INDIVIDUALS.

  • INDIVIDUALS. >> WHO IS FUNDING THIS GROUP?

  • >> WHO IS FUNDING THIS GROUP? >> PRIVATE DO NORNORSDONORS.

  • >> PRIVATE DO NORNORSDONORS. >> WHY NOT TELL PEOPLE WHO THEY

  • >> WHY NOT TELL PEOPLE WHO THEY ARE?

  • ARE? THE LAW ALLOWS YOU TO GO PUBLIC

  • THE LAW ALLOWS YOU TO GO PUBLIC OR PRIVATE.

  • OR PRIVATE. >> IF DO NORNORS WANT TO COME

  • >> IF DO NORNORS WANT TO COME FORWARD, THEY CAN.

  • FORWARD, THEY CAN. I THINK YOU WOULD SAY THAT WE

  • I THINK YOU WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE VERY MUCH FOCUSSED ON --

  • ARE VERY MUCH FOCUSSED ON -- WE'RE THE CHINA HAWK, C4.

  • WE'RE THE CHINA HAWK, C4. I'M VERY UP FRONT ON WHAT THE

  • I'M VERY UP FRONT ON WHAT THE SITUATION IS WITH CHINA AND

  • SITUATION IS WITH CHINA AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT BACK THIS

  • THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT BACK THIS THAT ARE CHINA HAWKS.

  • THAT ARE CHINA HAWKS. >> FOR THEM, THEY WANT TO MAKE

  • >> FOR THEM, THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY OFF OF WHAT COMES OFF OF

  • MONEY OFF OF WHAT COMES OFF OF THESE ELECTIONS BECAUSE OF THEIR

  • THESE ELECTIONS BECAUSE OF THEIR POSITIONS WITH CHINA.

  • POSITIONS WITH CHINA. >> NO, NO, NO.

  • >> NO, NO, NO. IT IS BECAUSE OF THEIR PAY

  • IT IS BECAUSE OF THEIR PAY PATRIOTISM.

  • PATRIOTISM. >> IS THERE ANYONE YOU WOULD NOT

  • >> IS THERE ANYONE YOU WOULD NOT TAKE MONEY FROM?

  • TAKE MONEY FROM? >> WELL, I WOULD NOT TAKE MONEY

  • >> WELL, I WOULD NOT TAKE MONEY FROM FOREIGNERS, RIGHT?

  • FROM FOREIGNERS, RIGHT? I'M PRETTY SELECTIVE ABOUT WHO I

  • I'M PRETTY SELECTIVE ABOUT WHO I TAKE MONEY FROM.

  • TAKE MONEY FROM. I HAVE ALWAYS HAD GREAT

  • I HAVE ALWAYS HAD GREAT PARTNERS.

  • PARTNERS. BUT I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM

  • BUT I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM RAISING MONEY.

  • RAISING MONEY. I THINK YOU HAVE SEEN

  • I THINK YOU HAVE SEEN PARTICULARLY IN WALL STREET AND

  • PARTICULARLY IN WALL STREET AND OTHERS YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE

  • OTHERS YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME FROM BLUE COLLAR

  • THAT COME FROM BLUE COLLAR BACKGROUNDS THAT LIKE THIS

  • BACKGROUNDS THAT LIKE THIS POPULISM, THAT LIKE THE TRUMP

  • POPULISM, THAT LIKE THE TRUMP PROGRAM THAT ARE PRETTY

  • PROGRAM THAT ARE PRETTY SUPPORTIVE.

  • SUPPORTIVE. >> YOUR CRITICS SAY YOU TALK A

  • >> YOUR CRITICS SAY YOU TALK A LOT OF SMACK ABOUT WALL STREET

  • LOT OF SMACK ABOUT WALL STREET BUT THEN YOU ARE FUNDED BY WALL

  • BUT THEN YOU ARE FUNDED BY WALL STREET.

  • STREET. >> NOT FUNDED BY WALL STREET BUT

  • >> NOT FUNDED BY WALL STREET BUT CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS.

  • CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS. >> YOU TOLD ME IT INCLUDES

  • >> YOU TOLD ME IT INCLUDES PEOPLE WITH A POSITION IN CHINA

  • PEOPLE WITH A POSITION IN CHINA IS WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

  • IS WHAT YOU JUST SAID. >> PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND OUR

  • >> PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND OUR POSITION IN CHINA, PEOPLE THAT

  • POSITION IN CHINA, PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE THE CHINA

  • UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE THE CHINA HAWKS.

  • HAWKS. >> THE QUESTION YOU UNDERSTAND,

  • >> THE QUESTION YOU UNDERSTAND, THOUGH, IS HOW DO YOU TAKE ON

  • THOUGH, IS HOW DO YOU TAKE ON WALL STREET IF YOU ARE FUNDED BY

  • WALL STREET IF YOU ARE FUNDED BY WALL STREET.

  • WALL STREET. >> INDIVIDUALS ON WALL STREET,

  • >> INDIVIDUALS ON WALL STREET, SOME OF THE BIGGEST GUYS ON WALL

  • SOME OF THE BIGGEST GUYS ON WALL STREET ARE QUITE ANTI THE ANTICS

  • STREET ARE QUITE ANTI THE ANTICS THAT WALL STREET HAS BEEN UP TO.

  • THAT WALL STREET HAS BEEN UP TO. YOU KNOW WHAT THE GAME IS.

  • YOU KNOW WHAT THE GAME IS. JUST BECAUSE YOU MADE SOME MONEY

  • JUST BECAUSE YOU MADE SOME MONEY ON WALL STREET OR JUST BECAUSE

  • ON WALL STREET OR JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE CURRENTLY IN A HEDGE

  • YOU ARE CURRENTLY IN A HEDGE FUND DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T KNOW

  • FUND DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PRACTICES OF WALL

  • WHAT THE PRACTICES OF WALL STREET ARE.

  • STREET ARE. IN FACT, I THINK IT'S BEEN A

  • IN FACT, I THINK IT'S BEEN A GREAT WAY FOR SOME PEOPLE THAT

  • GREAT WAY FOR SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE BLUE COLLAR, COME FROM BLUE

  • ARE BLUE COLLAR, COME FROM BLUE COLLAR BACKGROUNDS TO GET AHEAD.

  • COLLAR BACKGROUNDS TO GET AHEAD. >> THE MAIN PIECE OF ECONOMIC

  • >> THE MAIN PIECE OF ECONOMIC LEGISLATION THAT HAS BEEN PASSED

  • LEGISLATION THAT HAS BEEN PASSED IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS

  • IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS THE TAX BILL.

  • THE TAX BILL. MOST OF THOSE BENEFITS GO TO THE

  • MOST OF THOSE BENEFITS GO TO THE VERY WEALTHY.

  • VERY WEALTHY. IS THAT A MISTAKE?

  • IS THAT A MISTAKE? >> HANG ON A SECOND.

  • >> HANG ON A SECOND. THE CENTRAL PART OF THE TAX BILL

  • THE CENTRAL PART OF THE TAX BILL WAS ALSO THE CORPORATE TAX BILL

  • WAS ALSO THE CORPORATE TAX BILL TO MAKE SURE WE WERE COMPETITIVE

  • TO MAKE SURE WE WERE COMPETITIVE WITH GERMANY AND CHINA.

  • WITH GERMANY AND CHINA. IF YOU LOOK AT MANUFACTURING

  • IF YOU LOOK AT MANUFACTURING COMING BACK HERE, IT IS PART AND

  • COMING BACK HERE, IT IS PART AND PARCEL OF THE SITUATION WE'RE IN

  • PARCEL OF THE SITUATION WE'RE IN WITH THE TARIFFS, THE ECONOMIC

  • WITH THE TARIFFS, THE ECONOMIC PACKAGE AND THE TAX PACKAGE,

  • PACKAGE AND THE TAX PACKAGE, THAT WAS THE CENTRAL PART OF IT.

  • THAT WAS THE CENTRAL PART OF IT. >> ARE YOU GLOBAL?

  • >> ARE YOU GLOBAL? >> NOT GLOBALLY.

  • >> NOT GLOBALLY. I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED

  • I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED HERE.

  • HERE. WHAT HAPPENED HERE IN

  • WHAT HAPPENED HERE IN MANUFACTURING JOBS COMING BACK.

  • MANUFACTURING JOBS COMING BACK. THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE GOT SUCH

  • THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE GOT SUCH ECONOMIC GROWTH IN THE COUNTRY.

  • ECONOMIC GROWTH IN THE COUNTRY. ONE OF THE REASONS IS THE TAX

  • ONE OF THE REASONS IS THE TAX BILL.

  • BILL. NOW, I WASN'T TOTALLY -- I

  • NOW, I WASN'T TOTALLY -- I DIDN'T ACTUALLY LOVE SOME OF THE

  • DIDN'T ACTUALLY LOVE SOME OF THE THINGS ON THE INDEX.

  • THINGS ON THE INDEX. WALL STREET JOURNAL REPORTED IN

  • WALL STREET JOURNAL REPORTED IN THE IN THE OVAL OFFICE.

  • THE IN THE OVAL OFFICE. I LOST THAT FIGHT.

  • I LOST THAT FIGHT. NOT THAT THAT CAN'T BE

  • NOT THAT THAT CAN'T BE RE-ADDRESSED SOMETIME IN THE

  • RE-ADDRESSED SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.

  • FUTURE. >> WHEN YOU SEE 83% GOING TO THE

  • >> WHEN YOU SEE 83% GOING TO THE TOP 1%, IS THAT TOO MUCH?

  • TOP 1%, IS THAT TOO MUCH? >> I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS

  • >> I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH CORPORATE

  • WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH CORPORATE AMERICA IS THAT CORPORATE

  • AMERICA IS THAT CORPORATE AMERICA IS BECOMING MORE

  • AMERICA IS BECOMING MORE COMPETITIVE AND WE'RE REPATRIOTS

  • COMPETITIVE AND WE'RE REPATRIOTS TO COME BACK HERE AND INVEST IN

  • TO COME BACK HERE AND INVEST IN THE UNITED STATES.

  • THE UNITED STATES. I THINK IT IS ABOUT

  • I THINK IT IS ABOUT MANUFACTURING JOBS.

  • MANUFACTURING JOBS. IF YOU LOOK AT PRESIDENT'S

  • IF YOU LOOK AT PRESIDENT'S TRUMP'S OVER ALL AGAIN DARKSENDA

  • TRUMP'S OVER ALL AGAIN DARKSENDA WORKING.

  • WORKING. >> THE PRESIDENT WENT TO

  • >> THE PRESIDENT WENT TO MAR-A-LAGO AND TOLD PEOPLE THE

  • MAR-A-LAGO AND TOLD PEOPLE THE TAX BILL, QUOTE, YOU ALL JUST

  • TAX BILL, QUOTE, YOU ALL JUST GOT A LOT RICHER.

  • GOT A LOT RICHER. IS THAT YOUR POPULISM?

  • IS THAT YOUR POPULISM? >> I THINK POPULISM, WHEN YOU

  • >> I THINK POPULISM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT PRESIDENT TRUMP, IS

  • LOOK AT PRESIDENT TRUMP, IS ABOUT HIS ENTIRE PROGRAM.

  • ABOUT HIS ENTIRE PROGRAM. THIS TAX CUT WAS FOCUSSED ON

  • THIS TAX CUT WAS FOCUSSED ON INDUSTRIAL TAX CUT.

  • INDUSTRIAL TAX CUT. IT WAS TO MAKE THE MANUFACTURING

  • IT WAS TO MAKE THE MANUFACTURING SIDE OF THIS COUNTRY STRONGER.

  • SIDE OF THIS COUNTRY STRONGER. WE HAD THE 100%, YOU KNOW,

  • WE HAD THE 100%, YOU KNOW, WRITE-OFF OF CAPITAL

  • WRITE-OFF OF CAPITAL EXPENDITURE.

  • EXPENDITURE. THIS WAS ALL ABOUT REBUILDING

  • THIS WAS ALL ABOUT REBUILDING THE MANUFACTURING BASE.

  • THE MANUFACTURING BASE. AM I TOTALLY EXCITED ABOUT EVERY

  • AM I TOTALLY EXCITED ABOUT EVERY ASPECT OF THE TAX BILL?

  • ASPECT OF THE TAX BILL? NOT THAT EXCITED.

  • NOT THAT EXCITED. REMEMBER, I WAS A BIG SUPPORTER

  • REMEMBER, I WAS A BIG SUPPORTER OF PAUL RYAN'S BORDER

  • OF PAUL RYAN'S BORDER ADJUSTABILITY TAX AND THAT

  • ADJUSTABILITY TAX AND THAT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE.

  • DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE. SO WE WENT TO PLAN B.

GLAD TO WATCH IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, RACHEL.

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