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GLAD TO WATCH IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, RACHEL.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH, RACHEL. >> THANKS, ARI.
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>> THANKS, ARI. GOOD LUCK TO TONIGHT.
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GOOD LUCK TO TONIGHT. >> TONIGHT DONALD TRUMP FACES
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>> TONIGHT DONALD TRUMP FACES MOUNTING PRESSURE.
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MOUNTING PRESSURE. A FEDERAL JURY WILL TAKE THIS
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A FEDERAL JURY WILL TAKE THIS WEEKEND OFF BEFORE RESUMING
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WEEKEND OFF BEFORE RESUMING THESE DELIBERATIONS ON THE FATE
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THESE DELIBERATIONS ON THE FATE OF HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER PAUL
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OF HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER PAUL MANAFORT AND BOB MUELLER NOW
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MANAFORT AND BOB MUELLER NOW TONIGHT RECOMMENDING JAIL TIME
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TONIGHT RECOMMENDING JAIL TIME FOR GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS.
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FOR GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS. NEW WARNINGS THAT REPUBLICANS
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NEW WARNINGS THAT REPUBLICANS NOT ONLY TRAIL DEMOCRATS BY SIX
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NOT ONLY TRAIL DEMOCRATS BY SIX POINTS IN POLLING OVER WHO COULD
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POINTS IN POLLING OVER WHO COULD WIN THE MID-TERMS BUT A BLUE
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WIN THE MID-TERMS BUT A BLUE WAVE COULD MARK AN END TO THE
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WAVE COULD MARK AN END TO THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY.
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TRUMP PRESIDENCY. THAT MAY BE MOTIVATING FOR MANY
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THAT MAY BE MOTIVATING FOR MANY LIBERAL VOTERS.
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LIBERAL VOTERS. TAKE THIS NEW VIDEO THAT'S
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TAKE THIS NEW VIDEO THAT'S AIMING TO RILE UP CONSERVATIVE
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AIMING TO RILE UP CONSERVATIVE TURNOUT BY ARGUING THIS IS NOW A
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TURNOUT BY ARGUING THIS IS NOW A WAR FOR THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY.
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WAR FOR THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY. IT COMES FROM A MULTIMILLION
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IT COMES FROM A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CAMPAIGN BY FORMER TRUMP
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DOLLAR CAMPAIGN BY FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN CHAIR STEVE BANNON
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CAMPAIGN CHAIR STEVE BANNON RETURNING FROM EXILE TO HELP
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RETURNING FROM EXILE TO HELP CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS
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CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS WHETHER THEY WANT HIS HELP OR
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WHETHER THEY WANT HIS HELP OR NOT.
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NOT. BANNON IS ONE OF THE MOST
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BANNON IS ONE OF THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL FIGURES IN U.S.
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CONTROVERSIAL FIGURES IN U.S. POLITICS FOR MANY REASONS.
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POLITICS FOR MANY REASONS. BUT IT CAN BE HARD TO SEE WHAT'S
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BUT IT CAN BE HARD TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MIDTERMS
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HAPPENING IN THE MIDTERMS WITHOUT SEEING WHAT HE'S UP TO.
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WITHOUT SEEING WHAT HE'S UP TO. PEOPLE CAN'T DECIDE WHAT TO DO
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PEOPLE CAN'T DECIDE WHAT TO DO ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS IN OUR
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ABOUT DEVELOPMENTS IN OUR POLITICS IF WHAT'S HAPPENING IS
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POLITICS IF WHAT'S HAPPENING IS NOT EXPOSED OR NOT KNOWN OR NOT
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NOT EXPOSED OR NOT KNOWN OR NOT CONFRONTED.
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CONFRONTED. WHILE BANNON HAS TRIED A BIG
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WHILE BANNON HAS TRIED A BIG ROLE IN POLITICS, HE RARELY GOES
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ROLE IN POLITICS, HE RARELY GOES ON TV, HE HAS NEVER TAKEN
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ON TV, HE HAS NEVER TAKEN QUESTIONS FROM AN MSNBC ANALYST
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QUESTIONS FROM AN MSNBC ANALYST ON AIR.
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ON AIR. THAT CHANGES TONIGHT.
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THAT CHANGES TONIGHT. PLUS, INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS,
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PLUS, INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS, ADVERSARIAL REACTION AND FACT
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ADVERSARIAL REACTION AND FACT CHECKING FROM OUR PANEL OF
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CHECKING FROM OUR PANEL OF JOURNALISTS AND POLITICAL
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JOURNALISTS AND POLITICAL ANALYSTS WHO ARE WITH ME LIVE.
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ANALYSTS WHO ARE WITH ME LIVE. I WANT TO BE CLEAR UP FRONT,
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I WANT TO BE CLEAR UP FRONT, THIS INTERVIEW HAD NO GROUND
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THIS INTERVIEW HAD NO GROUND RULES, NOTHING OFF LIMITS.
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RULES, NOTHING OFF LIMITS. WE TALKED ABOUT BANNON'S PROJECT
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WE TALKED ABOUT BANNON'S PROJECT FOR THE MID-TERMS, HIS DONORS,
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FOR THE MID-TERMS, HIS DONORS, HIS POLITICAL RECORD, THE TIME'S
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HIS POLITICAL RECORD, THE TIME'S UP MOVEMENT, HIS VIEW OF JAMES
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UP MOVEMENT, HIS VIEW OF JAMES COMEY'S FIRES AND WHY MUELLER
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COMEY'S FIRES AND WHY MUELLER VIEWS HIM AS A WITNESS TO BOTH
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VIEWS HIM AS A WITNESS TO BOTH THE COLLUSION AND OBSTRUCTION
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THE COLLUSION AND OBSTRUCTION INVESTIGATION THAT'S GOING ON
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INVESTIGATION THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
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RIGHT NOW. BANNON ALSO RECOUNTS THE FIRST
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BANNON ALSO RECOUNTS THE FIRST TIME HE AND MUELLER EVER SPOKE
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TIME HE AND MUELLER EVER SPOKE AT THE DOORWAY TO DONALD TRUMP'S
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AT THE DOORWAY TO DONALD TRUMP'S OVAL OFFICE.
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OVAL OFFICE. HERE IS PART OF OUR DISCUSSION
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HERE IS PART OF OUR DISCUSSION STARTING WITH THE MIDTERMS.
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STARTING WITH THE MIDTERMS. >> LET'S START WITH THE
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>> LET'S START WITH THE MIDTERMS.
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MIDTERMS. IF THEY WERE HELD TODAY, WHO DO
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IF THEY WERE HELD TODAY, WHO DO YOU THINK WOULD WIN THE HOUSE?
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YOU THINK WOULD WIN THE HOUSE? >> I THINK IF THEY WERE HELD
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>> I THINK IF THEY WERE HELD TODAY, WE'D HAVE A TOUGH TIME
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TODAY, WE'D HAVE A TOUGH TIME HOLDING THE HOUSE.
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HOLDING THE HOUSE. I REALLY DO.
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I REALLY DO. I THINK IT COULD BE NORTH OF 25
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I THINK IT COULD BE NORTH OF 25 MAYBE 30 SEATS.
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MAYBE 30 SEATS. MAYBE NORTH OF THAT.
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MAYBE NORTH OF THAT. THE PEOPLE ARE PROJECTING 45 OR
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THE PEOPLE ARE PROJECTING 45 OR 50 SEATS.
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50 SEATS. I BELIEVE BY NOVEMBER 6th, WE'RE
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I BELIEVE BY NOVEMBER 6th, WE'RE GOING TO WIN THIS.
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GOING TO WIN THIS. I THINK ALL THIS TAKES IS PEOPLE
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I THINK ALL THIS TAKES IS PEOPLE ON OUR SIDE OF THE FOOTBALL
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ON OUR SIDE OF THE FOOTBALL FOCUSSING ON WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
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FOCUSSING ON WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN. THIS IS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE ON
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THIS IS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE ON PRESIDENT TRUMP.
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PRESIDENT TRUMP. THIS ELECTION WILL COME AS A
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THIS ELECTION WILL COME AS A REFERENDUM ON HIM.
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REFERENDUM ON HIM. HE PERMEATES THE ENTIRE
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HE PERMEATES THE ENTIRE POLITICAL CULTURE.
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POLITICAL CULTURE. I THINK THOSE AROUND HIM ARE
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I THINK THOSE AROUND HIM ARE TELLING HIM, HEY, IT IS OKAY TO
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TELLING HIM, HEY, IT IS OKAY TO LOSE THE HOUSE.
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LOSE THE HOUSE. YOU CAN WORK WITH THE DEMOCRATS
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YOU CAN WORK WITH THE DEMOCRATS AND WORK WITH A DEMOCRAT HOUSE
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AND WORK WITH A DEMOCRAT HOUSE IN 2020 IS BAD ADVICE.
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IN 2020 IS BAD ADVICE. I HAVE MADE A FILM THAT'S
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I HAVE MADE A FILM THAT'S FOCUSSED ON GETTING OUT THE
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FOCUSSED ON GETTING OUT THE TRUMP BASE, THE DEPLORABLES PLUS
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TRUMP BASE, THE DEPLORABLES PLUS THE BLUE COLLAR DEMOCRATS.
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THE BLUE COLLAR DEMOCRATS. THE OPPOSITION PARTY MEDIA AND
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THE OPPOSITION PARTY MEDIA AND THE DEMOCRATS SUCCEED IN ONE
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THE DEMOCRATS SUCCEED IN ONE THING.
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THING. I THINK THEY DEAD GET A DO-OVER
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I THINK THEY DEAD GET A DO-OVER TO 2016 AND I THINK THIS IS HIS
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TO 2016 AND I THINK THIS IS HIS FIRST RE-ELECT.
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FIRST RE-ELECT. >> YOU SAID YOU WILL SAVE THE
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>> YOU SAID YOU WILL SAVE THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY IN THESE
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TRUMP PRESIDENCY IN THESE MIDTERMS.
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MIDTERMS. DOES HE KNOW HE NEEDS YOU TO
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DOES HE KNOW HE NEEDS YOU TO SAVE HIM?
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SAVE HIM? >> I DON'T THINK THE QUOTE WAS
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>> I DON'T THINK THE QUOTE WAS WE'RE GOING TO SAVE HIM.
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WE'RE GOING TO SAVE HIM. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET
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WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET THIS MESSAGE FOCUSSED.
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THIS MESSAGE FOCUSSED. THE MESSAGE IS ABOUT PRESIDENT
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THE MESSAGE IS ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP, A REFERENDUM ON PRESIDENT
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TRUMP, A REFERENDUM ON PRESIDENT TRUMP.
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TRUMP. TO ME IT IS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE.
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TO ME IT IS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE. I THINK THE DEMOCRATS ARE
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I THINK THE DEMOCRATS ARE RUNNING AS AN IMPEACHMENT
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RUNNING AS AN IMPEACHMENT CAMPAIGN.
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CAMPAIGN. I THINK OUR SIDE HAS TO
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I THINK OUR SIDE HAS TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
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UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU JUST CAN'T RUN ON TAX CUTS.
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YOU JUST CAN'T RUN ON TAX CUTS. YOU HAVE TO RUN ON THE ENTIRE
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YOU HAVE TO RUN ON THE ENTIRE PACKAGE OF THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY.
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PACKAGE OF THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY. >> YOU THINK IMPEACHMENT IS ON
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>> YOU THINK IMPEACHMENT IS ON THE BALLOT WHY?
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THE BALLOT WHY? >> THE GRASS ROOTS OF THE
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>> THE GRASS ROOTS OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAVE PUT IT ON
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DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAVE PUT IT ON THE BALLOT AND SO HAS NANCY PEL
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THE BALLOT AND SO HAS NANCY PEL LOW SIS
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LOW SIS PELOSI
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PELOSI PELOSI.
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PELOSI. IF THE CONGRESSMEN IN YOUR
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IF THE CONGRESSMEN IN YOUR DISTRICT, YOU HAVE TO COME OUT
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DISTRICT, YOU HAVE TO COME OUT TO HELP PRESIDENT TRUMP.
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TO HELP PRESIDENT TRUMP. THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THESE
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THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THESE DISTRICTS IN JULY IN 90 DEGREE
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DISTRICTS IN JULY IN 90 DEGREE HEAT GOING DOOR TO DOOR.
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HEAT GOING DOOR TO DOOR. THE REASON THEY'RE GOING DOOR TO
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THE REASON THEY'RE GOING DOOR TO DOOR IS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT
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DOOR IS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT
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THE IMPEACHMENT OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.
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TRUMP. ALL WE'RE SAYING IS, HEY, IT IS
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ALL WE'RE SAYING IS, HEY, IT IS ALREADY ON THE BALLOT.
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ALREADY ON THE BALLOT. LET'S DO IT.
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LET'S DO IT. >> YOUR NEW GROUP OF CITIZENS OF
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>> YOUR NEW GROUP OF CITIZENS OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.
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THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. YOU SAY WE'RE AT WAR.
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YOU SAY WE'RE AT WAR. WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN?
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WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? >> THE FILM SAYS TRUMP AT WAR.
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>> THE FILM SAYS TRUMP AT WAR. TRUMP IS AT WAR ABOUT THE
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TRUMP IS AT WAR ABOUT THE POLITICAL CLASS.
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POLITICAL CLASS. >> IT IS YOUR FILM.
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>> IT IS YOUR FILM. >> IT IS A FILM CALLED "TRUMP AT
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>> IT IS A FILM CALLED "TRUMP AT WAR."
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WAR." IT SHOWS YOU HE IS AT WAR WITH
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IT SHOWS YOU HE IS AT WAR WITH THE OPPOSITION PARTY MEDIA AND
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THE OPPOSITION PARTY MEDIA AND BASICALLY HE'S AT ECONOMIC WAR
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BASICALLY HE'S AT ECONOMIC WAR WITH CHINA.
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WITH CHINA. AND, SO, I THINK THAT WHEN YOU
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AND, SO, I THINK THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS FILM YOU SEE THAT
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LOOK AT THIS FILM YOU SEE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS A DISRUPTER
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PRESIDENT TRUMP IS A DISRUPTER AND AN INNOVATOR.
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AND AN INNOVATOR. YOU SEE HE IS KIND OF DELIVERING
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YOU SEE HE IS KIND OF DELIVERING ON THE PROMISES HE PUT FORWARD
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ON THE PROMISES HE PUT FORWARD TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THAT
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TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THAT HE'S NOT INTO JUST MANAGING THE
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HE'S NOT INTO JUST MANAGING THE DECLINE OF THE COUNTRY, BUT HE'S
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DECLINE OF THE COUNTRY, BUT HE'S GOING TO TRY TO TURN THE COUNTRY
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GOING TO TRY TO TURN THE COUNTRY AROUND.
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AROUND. IT IS A FILM THAT IS FOCUSSED ON
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IT IS A FILM THAT IS FOCUSSED ON GETTING OUR BASE JACKED UP AND
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GETTING OUR BASE JACKED UP AND OUR BASE OUT.
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OUR BASE OUT. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T GET OUR BASE
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BECAUSE IF WE DON'T GET OUR BASE OUT ON NOVEMBER 6th, WE'LL HAVE
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OUT ON NOVEMBER 6th, WE'LL HAVE A BAD DAY AT THE POLLS.
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A BAD DAY AT THE POLLS. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE
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IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE TRUMP VOTER, THE INVISIBLE TRUMP
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TRUMP VOTER, THE INVISIBLE TRUMP VOTER SHOW UP LIKE A
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VOTER SHOW UP LIKE A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
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PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. >> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO
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>> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO REPUBLICANS WHO SAY WHY SHOULD
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REPUBLICANS WHO SAY WHY SHOULD THEY TAKE YOUR HELP IF YOU
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THEY TAKE YOUR HELP IF YOU HAVEN'T BACKED WINNING
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HAVEN'T BACKED WINNING CANDIDATES THUS FAR?
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CANDIDATES THUS FAR? >> I THINK I DID BACK WINNING
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>> I THINK I DID BACK WINNING CANDIDATES IN THE PRIMARY.
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CANDIDATES IN THE PRIMARY. THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT IN
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THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT IN ALABAMA, ROY MOORE SPECIFICALLY.
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ALABAMA, ROY MOORE SPECIFICALLY. ROY MOORE WOULD HAVE WON THAT
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ROY MOORE WOULD HAVE WON THAT ELECTION IF MITCH McCONNELL AND
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ELECTION IF MITCH McCONNELL AND THESE OTHERS HADN'T TURNED
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THESE OTHERS HADN'T TURNED AGAINST HIM.
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AGAINST HIM. WE HAVE A VERY GOOD FEEL ON HOW
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WE HAVE A VERY GOOD FEEL ON HOW TO WIN.
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TO WIN. I HAVE BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN
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I HAVE BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN THIS SINCE THE TEA PARTY, YOU
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THIS SINCE THE TEA PARTY, YOU KNOW, THE TEA PARTY ELECTION IN
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KNOW, THE TEA PARTY ELECTION IN 2010.
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2010. SO I THINK WE HAVE A VERY GOOD
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SO I THINK WE HAVE A VERY GOOD IDEA OF HOW TO MAKE THESE FILMS
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IDEA OF HOW TO MAKE THESE FILMS AND GET PEOPLE OUT.
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AND GET PEOPLE OUT. >> HOW CAN YOU BLAME REPUBLICANS
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>> HOW CAN YOU BLAME REPUBLICANS IN WASHINGTON FOR WHAT HAPPENED
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IN WASHINGTON FOR WHAT HAPPENED IN ALABAMA?
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IN ALABAMA? >> HE CAME OUT ON SUNDAY MORNING
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>> HE CAME OUT ON SUNDAY MORNING ON NATIONAL TV AND SAID I'M NOT
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ON NATIONAL TV AND SAID I'M NOT VOTING FOR ROY MOORE.
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VOTING FOR ROY MOORE. McCONNELL WAS THE GUY -- IT IS
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McCONNELL WAS THE GUY -- IT IS THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT
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THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT THAT DUMPED ALL THIS STUFF TO
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THAT DUMPED ALL THIS STUFF TO THE WASHINGTON POST THAT TURNED
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THE WASHINGTON POST THAT TURNED AGAINST HIM WHEN THEIR CANDIDATE
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AGAINST HIM WHEN THEIR CANDIDATE GOT SMOKED IN THE PRIMARY.
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GOT SMOKED IN THE PRIMARY. SO IT WAS THE REPUBLICAN
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SO IT WAS THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT THAT SAID FROM DAY
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ESTABLISHMENT THAT SAID FROM DAY ONE, WE'RE NOT ONLY GOING TO
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ONE, WE'RE NOT ONLY GOING TO SUPPORT ROY MOORE, THEY WERE
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SUPPORT ROY MOORE, THEY WERE MEETING TO UNSEAT ROY MOORE AND
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MEETING TO UNSEAT ROY MOORE AND UNSEAT HIM IF HE WON.
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UNSEAT HIM IF HE WON. THAT WAS THE REPUBLICAN
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THAT WAS THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT TURNING AGAINST
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ESTABLISHMENT TURNING AGAINST HIM.
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HIM. >> HOW MUCH MONEY DOES YOUR
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>> HOW MUCH MONEY DOES YOUR GROUP HAVE?
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GROUP HAVE? >> WE'VE RAISED, YOU KNOW, QUITE
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>> WE'VE RAISED, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.
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A BIT OF MONEY. WE MADE A PRETTY IMPRESSIVE
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WE MADE A PRETTY IMPRESSIVE FILM.
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FILM. I HAVE A 25 PERSON STAFF.
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I HAVE A 25 PERSON STAFF. WE RUN A WAR ROOM EVERY DAY.
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WE RUN A WAR ROOM EVERY DAY. WE DO TALKING POINTS.
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WE DO TALKING POINTS. >> $5 MILLION?
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>> $5 MILLION? >> OVER $5 MILLION, YES.
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>> OVER $5 MILLION, YES. >> OVER $10 MILLION.
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>> OVER $10 MILLION. >> I DON'T WANT TO PUT A