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  • - Hi everyone, Sal Khan here.

  • Welcome to the daily home room.

  • For those of y'all who don't know what this is,

  • you're just showing up off from Facebook or YouTube.

  • This is something that we started

  • once we started seeing mass school closures

  • and it's really a way for all of us to stay connected.

  • Obviously Khan Academy as a not-for-profit

  • with a mission of providing

  • free world-class education for anyone anywhere.

  • Over the last many years we've been building resources,

  • that we've saw students use both outside of school

  • and inside of school with teachers.

  • And we could've never foreseen this crisis,

  • but when it started happening

  • we realized given our mission,

  • it's our duty to step up in any way possible

  • to support you the student, the teacher and the parent.

  • And so we've been putting out webinars

  • to help parents and teachers get set up.

  • We've been issuing daily schedules,

  • we just issued some learning plans last week

  • and we also thought it'd be fun to have something like this,

  • just a way to stay connected

  • and times with social distancing

  • and talk about interesting subjects.

  • It might be related to Khan Academy.

  • It might be education generally,

  • it might be just how do we make...

  • How do we navigate this crisis that we're going through.

  • I will give my the plug that I give every day,

  • remind everyone that we are supported

  • through philanthropic donations

  • from folks like yourself.

  • So if you're in a position to please think about donating,

  • I want to give a special shout out

  • to several corporations who've stepped up

  • in the last few weeks.

  • Bank of America stepped up that first weekend

  • when it was clear that

  • we were gonna have the school closings,

  • Google.org, AT&T, Novartis,

  • if any of you represent corporations

  • please reach out to us.

  • We were running a deficit even before this crisis

  • and our costs have gone up since then

  • and there's all sorts of things

  • we wanna do and accelerate forward

  • but we're only going to be able to do it

  • if we're able to get more support.

  • And thank you for the many thousands of people

  • who've donated over the last few weeks.

  • It all makes a difference

  • and allows us to accelerate our work.

  • So the focus of today,

  • I have a very fun guest

  • who's a close friend of mine

  • and also does very important work in the world.

  • We have Jim Steyer from Common Sense Media, hi Jim.

  • - Hi Sal and great to be here

  • and by the way, you should give money to Khan Academy

  • it is a fabulous organization

  • and its tires are donors.

  • We're a not-for-profit

  • but there's nobody better than Sal Khan Academy.

  • He's right about that.

  • - I did not tell Jim to say that,

  • but that's why we are close friends he knows.

  • So first one on this conversation,

  • I'm gonna ask you a few questions

  • about Common Sense Media generally

  • and maybe some of the things that we're doing together

  • and how we're navigating the crisis.

  • But if anyone has questions,

  • feel free to go on YouTube and Facebook

  • and our team members will surface questions

  • if you have questions for Jim

  • about his work at Common Sense Media

  • or any questions for me as well.

  • But Jim, maybe a good place to start.

  • Tell folks what Common Sense Media is

  • and why you started it.

  • Okay, so we are a nonprofit organization

  • and really the leading kids media

  • and advocacy organization in the U S.

  • I started it cause I'm a former school teacher.

  • And at Stanford prof

  • who cares a ton about really educating families

  • and kids in general

  • but also about the impact of media

  • and technology on their lives.

  • I started at 15 years ago.

  • We do three things.

  • We rate, educate and advocate.

  • So for folks out there in the audience who know us,

  • we've made every movie TV, video game, website,

  • book, music, you name it

  • Common Sense rates it and gives you information

  • so parents can make better choices for their kids.

  • The educate part of our work is

  • we created the field of

  • digital citizenship, digital literacy.

  • So we have a curriculum

  • in most of the schools in the United States

  • about the safe, ethical, responsible use of media

  • and technology at home and in the classroom.

  • And then finally, we're a leading child advocacy group

  • that advocates for everything like

  • everybody having Wi-Fi and broadband.

  • Every student in America having access to Khan Academy,

  • these kinds of resources

  • and also on issues like education and healthcare

  • and all these issues that matter to kids and families

  • who are in the U S

  • so a big nonprofit just like Khan Academy

  • and a huge fan of Khan Academy and Sal.

  • - We're fans of you and all of the work y'all do as well.

  • And so to make it tangible for a lot of folks,

  • I use Common Sense Media with my own family

  • when I'm just trying to find good stuff for them.

  • We're doing movie nights once a week now

  • with all the social distancing

  • and we turn to Common Sense Media a lot for that.

  • What are some of the things,

  • and I know we have some stuff going on together as well,

  • but where's... what were y'all focused on

  • before this crisis hit

  • and how has that evolved to some degree since then?

  • - Okay, great question Sal.

  • So basically before the crisis hit

  • we had this big consumer platform,

  • but 100 million people on it

  • trying to figure out what movies to watch

  • for their kids on movie night

  • or what video games were appropriate

  • for a 12 year old et cetera.

  • And we were in most of the schools in the U S

  • basically working with teachers and educators saying,

  • here's how to use the internet.

  • Here's how to use cell phones and social media

  • in a really responsible way.

  • And when this crisis hit,

  • one of the first things we thought was like wow

  • we need to work with Khan Academy.

  • But we also thought wouldn't it be great

  • to create one central hub

  • where schools could go and where families could go

  • get fined at one click of a button.

  • The best educational resources

  • could deal with the COVID-19 crisis.

  • So along with the support of folks like Khan Academy,

  • we created Wide Open School.org,

  • which is this new platform

  • our colleagues at Amplify helped build the platform.

  • And then honestly, we link to the best content out there,

  • Khan Academy, national geographic,

  • Sesame street, et cetera.

  • And the idea was make it really easy for parents

  • and students who are at home

  • and we're doing distance learning

  • and also for schools around the United States

  • to have one central place

  • where they could get the content they wanted

  • and actually to do homeschooling.

  • And as you mentioned, Sal,

  • having a daily schedule and you there

  • is really important cause everybody's at home right now

  • and trying to do learning from home

  • and whether they're on Khan Academy

  • or Wide Open School, it's just how

  • we're just trying to help everybody

  • learn from home and we think this is gonna be

  • changing the nature of education long-term.

  • Just like Khan Academy changed the nature of education

  • when Sal founded Khan Academy.

  • - Well, what's your sense, a lot of questions.

  • I'm having a lot of conversations these days

  • obviously about the whole virus generally,

  • but how do you think this is going to play out

  • over the next several weeks or months,

  • especially in relation to school

  • and kids maybe generally speaking?

  • - I actually think that ultimately we're gonna listen

  • and we're here in California, Sal.

  • So we've had a governor really step forward

  • and mayors and stuff.

  • I think we're gonna be sad to say,

  • I think we're gonna be learning from home

  • for the rest of the school year for sure.

  • And I think that even for the rest of 2020

  • much of learning is gonna be online much more than normal.

  • And therefore everybody out there

  • is gonna need to be able to access the internet

  • is gonna be able to access resources like Khan Academy.

  • And so I think this is gonna last longer than normal

  • and I think it's really important for all of us.

  • I have four children, Sal I know you're a doubting dad to.

  • I think we have to explain to our kids that

  • we're gonna be at home,

  • it's good family time,

  • but we're gonna need to figure out how to do school.

  • Also how to take breaks and get exercise

  • and not sit in front of a screen all day long.

  • So I think this is gonna last longer than we think.

  • I think for example, it's gonna probably affect summers

  • and a lot of us are gonna probably do some more at home

  • than we were planning on.

  • I know my kids who are a little older than your kids Sal,

  • they are in college and grad school

  • and they are taking their classes at home and I...

  • their summer jobs have changed.

  • So I sad to say, I think we're gonna have to figure out

  • how to work with this over the four months.

  • I don't think it's just gonna be weeks.

  • I think it'll be a few months to be honest.

  • Cause of the virus.

  • - Yeah, and we're getting some comments off of YouTube

  • Tuzeta Roro says, I have been using this with my kids.

  • I think they're referring to

  • either Common Sense or Wide Open School.

  • And I've been using this with my kids this week

  • and it helps me feel less guilty about screen time.

  • Actually that's an interesting issue.

  • How do you think about coping with screen-time guilt?

  • I'm happy to give my own views on that.

  • Although I'm conflicted.

  • What are your thoughts about that as a parent and an expert?

  • - So I actually, I'd love to hear what you think you Sal

  • as parent and an expert.

  • So definitely you're gonna have more screen time right now.

  • There's just no question

  • because literally my kids

  • are going to school online right now,

  • so they're going to be in front of a screen

  • more than they are.

  • And as Common Sense where we're the leading spokespeople

  • on this issue about balance and moderation

  • when it comes to screen time.

  • And by the way, it's a really important message,

  • but I think that we have to understand

  • these are unique circumstances.

  • So I do think that we should let up on

  • some of the hard and fast rules

  • we want our kids going to school doing online learning.

  • We want them using Khan Academy resources.

  • But I think you also as a parent, for example,

  • really wanna have balance in your kid's life

  • and you don't wanna plunk them in front of a screen

  • for eight hours in a row.

  • That's my take.

  • And that's what we're trying to do with this tire children.

  • How about you?

  • So what do you think?

  • - I feel very similar.

  • I've always my answer even before this crisis was,

  • it's not so much measuring what is happening on the screen,

  • but it's happening with measuring what's happening

  • in the student's whole life.

  • And so if a student is getting time

  • where they're socializing, spending time with their family,

  • they're running outside,

  • they have time for creativity, et cetera,

  • then I'm less worried about that screen time,

  • especially if that screen time is constructive screen time.

  • I think most of us if we saw

  • our middle school students spend

  • three hours composing a poem,

  • we wouldn't view that as negative screen time

  • or if we saw them I thought I'm a big fan

  • of reading a book for real,

  • but I know a lot of people like reading on a Kindle

  • that's not the end of the world type of screen time

  • if someone wants to.

  • I remember when I was a kid,

  • if I got really excited about some

  • I actually didn't have a computer at home growing up,

  • but I, at the local university

  • I somehow convinced a professor

  • to give me access to the computers.

  • But there were times where I spent

  • 12 hours straight, 20 hours straight,

  • just creating something, coding something.

  • And that was, I mean, it was probably a little unhealthy.

  • I probably had more caffeine than I should have,

  • but it was actually constructed screen time

  • and obviously if you're learning.

  • And so, yeah, I'm trying to balance it myself.

  • And especially in this time of social distancing

  • and everyone is together.

  • Yesterday me and the family,

  • we were all on the couch together.

  • We had the popcorn going.

  • We watched two episodes of Will Smith's documentary

  • that's on Disney plus around one strange rock.

  • That was great, I thought that was great.

  • Screen time and great family time.

  • We learned a ton about aliens and astronauts

  • and how life happened to exist on earth.

  • So I think that kind of thing when you're with your family,

  • we're having a good conversation around it.

  • It was two hours of screen time of TV watching.

  • But I felt like it was a lot of bonding too.

  • So yeah, there's a balance.

  • - I agree with you.

  • I mean I actually think that's what I would say.

  • I think it's quantity and quality

  • and you're absolutely right.

  • And the other thing about this COVID-19 epidemic is

  • it forces more family time,

  • which is a really good thing.

  • I mean, your kids are a little younger than ours.

  • I know, you know, Sal.

  • And so for me, I have kids who are teenagers

  • and college age a little older right.

  • And it's great because

  • you actually are spending more time as a family.

  • You're having family dinners.

  • But I do think that there's,

  • it's when you talked about screen time,

  • you should think about quality

  • in terms of do good stuff.

  • Like just like you just described family screen time,

  • but educational stuff.

  • If you're gonna read a book online, that's great.

  • Not too much, just junk if you will.

  • It's sort of like food

  • and you're thinking about your nutritional diet.

  • You don't wanna have your kid only have junk food.

  • But it's also taking breaks.

  • You mentioned exercising, getting outside

  • as much as possible, getting a break,

  • sort of having a boundary that way,

  • the daily schedule that we were talking about

  • is important and it's balanced moderation.

  • But we're gonna be in front of screens more often,

  • so let's make it constructive quality screen time, why not?

  • - Yeah, and there's a couple of questions we have

  • for Amy Liang on YouTube is asking,

  • what inspired you to make the website Jim Steyer and well,

  • maybe I'll broaden the question a little bit.

  • You pointed you used to be a Stanford professor.

  • You're a lawyer by training.

  • What did you see 15 years ago

  • where you said, hey, there's something wrong with society.

  • We need a not-for-profit, like Common Sense Media.

  • - I'll say the honest answer.

  • So my life work, I've been a Stanford professor

  • and now I'm grading myself, but for 30 years.

  • And I was a civil rights lawyer first that maybe is correct.

  • And what happened was

  • I wanted to create

  • the most important child advocacy group in United States.

  • I'm really an advocate.

  • My life work is as an educator teacher

  • and as an advocate for children.

  • That's really what I do.

  • And when we started

  • when I started Common Sense,

  • we created the web platform,

  • the platform and all the ratings

  • and reviews and all that stuff

  • basically to get the public

  • to care about children.

  • And also we realized that that time,

  • this is 15 years ago,

  • that movies and TV shows and music

  • were having a huge impact on kids lives and family's life.

  • Remember there was no iPhone,

  • no Facebook, no Google, no Snapchat, nothing.

  • And in the day when we started Common Sense,

  • it was basically movies and TV.

  • And maybe some music and video games.

  • And but alright, the real thing for me was

  • to build a platform that everybody could join

  • if they wanted to care about children generally

  • and to create this membership

  • based sort of advocacy group for children,

  • particularly for disadvantaged children

  • who don't have a voice.

  • And lo and behold, 15 years later

  • Oh my gosh, who knew that we would have

  • 100 million plus users

  • for our consumer reports guide.

  • And the truth is,

  • I didn't realize that the media technology piece

  • would be so big and who could have known

  • that Steve Jobs would bring out the iPhone

  • or that Mark Zuckerberg would invent Facebook

  • or that you'd have YouTube and Snapchat

  • and all the other things that are so key (mumbling).

  • But the truth is when it happened,

  • Common Sense was there and we did it.

  • And so I remember when you started Khan Academy

  • and I remember those conversations we had

  • and I was so happy that you decided to make Khan Academy

  • a not-for-profit because you could have built

  • a successful for profit business,

  • but your heart was so much in the right.

  • I never forget that

  • your heart was so much in the right place

  • of doing this as a not-for-profit

  • and making it the school for everybody in the world

  • and you should be very proud of that my friend, I'm serious.

  • But that's why we love working with you guys,

  • but I could have never predicted 15 years ago

  • that Common Sense would have gotten this big,

  • but the same mission is about kids basically.

  • It's how do you change the world for kids?

  • How do you improve the world for kids

  • particularly the ones who need it the most.

  • That's my biggest concern

  • by the way during the COVID-19 crisis.

  • Is how do we take care of the kids who are not living,

  • who are in a two room home with five people

  • and whose school isn't even doing learning yet

  • because they don't even have a system set up.

  • So I think for those of us, we're so fortunate,

  • I think it's really important to remember that

  • there's like tens of millions of kids out there

  • who have very few resources

  • and we want to care about them

  • and give them the same opportunities

  • that Sal Khan kids and Jim Steyer kids have.

  • But that's what motivates me.

  • That's why I started Common Sense.

  • And like you who knew Khan Academy would turn it,

  • you were just making videos for your nieces and nephews.

  • Look what happened.

  • Sort of the same thing with Common Sense.

  • - No, you never know.

  • And there's a question here from Facebook, Scott Yang,

  • who's been consistently asking good questions.

  • I mean I'm gonna broaden his question.

  • His question is, are video games fine?

  • But I'm gonna broaden it, which is

  • obviously Common Sense you guys are rating, what is good?

  • What's appropriate for different ages.

  • And I think all of us have a sense,

  • you see a video game where you're shooting people up

  • like hey, that might not be right.

  • I mean, frankly even for me myself,

  • if I watch a movie that's,

  • or a video game that's really gruesome,

  • I'm like this, when I was a teenager for some reason

  • I didn't mind it.

  • But now when I look at it, I don't know,

  • I'm like, Oh, that's troubling.

  • I'm not sure if I can sleep tonight.

  • And then there's things like social media

  • and things that aren't gruesome

  • but have other dynamics.

  • There's this stuff we know intuitively,

  • but what do we...

  • what evidence do we have that it is,

  • maybe some of this stuff could cause harm.

  • - We know it's really a good question.

  • So video games have been a big issue

  • for Common sense, right.

  • From day one, right.

  • So we were the first people we started rating them

  • and really calling out the violence

  • in certain that the old video games.

  • And explaining to parents

  • and educators that too much violence

  • is really bad for kids

  • that there's copycat violence and there's,

  • and also you can become a near devout.

  • So I would say it's really interesting

  • we because we realized

  • how incredibly popular video games are

  • and they were made to be that.

  • I have a 16 year old son

  • who if we allowed him to

  • he would play video games for 18 hours a day

  • and not all of them would be the video games

  • that I might recommend.

  • And so I think a couple of things

  • we worked very closely with the video game industry

  • could tell about you have to limit the violence.

  • Also there used to be racially stereotypical stuff

  • and a lot of sexist stuff.

  • There was a lot of content in video games.

  • It was certainly inappropriate

  • for an eight year old or a 10 year old.

  • And then there was the issue of

  • too much time in front of a screen.

  • So we have done a lot of advocacy around the issue of video.

  • We've done a lot to educate parents and teachers

  • about how much time kids love video

  • how much time kids are spending playing video games

  • and also how to find the good ones.

  • Because as you know Sal,

  • there are a ton of great games out there

  • and there are different kinds of learning.

  • Some of the most creative educational products

  • are actually game based products

  • that are really educational.

  • So again, I think it's both

  • quality of the game and the amount.

  • So I wouldn't let Jesse,

  • our son play 10 hours of video games

  • even though we probably would like to.

  • And you're right, teenagers particularly boys

  • are the ones who would spend all day

  • in front of a video game machine

  • if we let them.

  • But it's a great question

  • and I think it's one of the reasons why Common Sense.org

  • is such a good resource cause you can go there

  • and check on anything and say, hey, is this okay

  • for my eight year old or old or my 15 year old.

  • And, it's balanced, it's moderation.

  • But video games can also be awesome.

  • And I like to play them too.

  • But I'm not nearly as talented as my son is.

  • - And what about social media?

  • I hear at least anecdotally,

  • I've talked to university presidents,

  • they're talking about how anxiety

  • has gotten through the roof

  • and some people have pointed it

  • to this as the generation

  • that kind of grew up in on social media.

  • What do y'all know about that?

  • - Well, that's a really big issue.

  • So, first of all,

  • this is the first real generation of digital natives

  • who are growing up on social media platforms.

  • And so I think we try to take a fairly balanced approach.

  • We have been critical

  • of some of the big social media players

  • for allowing inappropriate content on their platform.

  • Whether it's cyber bullying

  • or the one thing about some of the platforms,

  • if you think about, say Instagram and Snapchat,

  • which are where a lot of kids are today.

  • There's a constant comparison of yourself.

  • I wrote a book back in 2012

  • called Talking Back to Facebook

  • where I talked about the fact

  • and as the father of two daughters,

  • that millions of girls out there

  • and boys too Photoshop their images

  • on Facebook and Instagram and Snapchat,

  • meaning they're wanting to show an ideal personality

  • or an ideal image, which is just unrealistic.

  • So we've tried to work closely with the big platforms

  • and tried to get them to clean up

  • some of the stuff that's on it

  • and be aware of how many hundreds of millions of kids

  • are on those platforms.

  • But the truth is this,

  • I know as a father of teenagers,

  • kids are on those platforms.

  • The question is how do you both limit the amount of time

  • and also use those platforms for the good stuff.

  • And I think this is an, as a parent,

  • you really have to talk with your kids

  • about social media and teachers do too

  • much to the curriculum

  • that we have in schools around the United States

  • and globally is about how do you deal with social media,

  • how do you use it responsibly?

  • And how do you not engage in bullying

  • or all the other kinds of things

  • that can be negative on a social media platform.

  • And we're very frank

  • with the guys who run the platforms too.

  • About trying to clean up those platforms

  • and make them kid friendly

  • and appropriate too.

  • So that I think that the big Common Sense mission.

  • - Have you found that folks have been

  • receptive to that, to your feedback?

  • - It depends, I will be I honestly Sal

  • I really will say this.

  • It depends on the platform and the company.

  • I think a lot of it has to do with

  • who the people who lead the organization.

  • It's the same thing in a way.

  • At the end of the day,

  • there are a ton of great people

  • who work at Khan Academy,

  • but you set the tone and the culture you do.

  • And there's a degree to which I do that at Common Sense.

  • So I think when it comes to that,

  • it really depends platform by

  • I think that's really true in life

  • that you have to show leadership

  • just like as a parent and you and your spouse

  • have to set the family role models

  • and you have to set good examples for your kids,

  • including social media and technology.

  • But I think that some of the platforms

  • have been more responsive than others.

  • The other thing is, it's funny

  • cause as a Stanford professor,

  • I've had so many thousands of students

  • who went into the technology industry.

  • I think that people who work in the tech industry

  • have to realize the incredible impact

  • of the platforms they built

  • on the lives of everybody out there.

  • And they have to be responsible

  • for the content of those platforms

  • and also some of the design of those platforms.

  • So that you don't have people sitting there

  • watching nine hours in a row of their favorite show.

  • So I think it's really about,

  • I think that there's a big role

  • for Common Sense and folks like you, Sal

  • and all of us and parents and kids out there

  • to ask the platforms to be responsible.

  • And I think one of the things about this crisis

  • is a lot of them have really stepped up to the plate.

  • And if you look at the partners with Wide Open School,

  • haven't just been you guys,

  • but Google and zoom have been really good

  • and Apple and that's been great

  • because they have such huge reach and they owe it,

  • I really feel they have a responsibility

  • to the public to do right by the public.

  • And I think that in a number of cases

  • they're really stepping up and should be.

  • And they're gonna need to do that long term

  • as education becomes increasingly online

  • and learn at home distance learning kind of stuff.

  • - Yeah and in fairness to them, and it is,

  • these are incredibly hard issues

  • and obviously we are right now

  • streaming on YouTube, Facebook.

  • So we're able to leverage social media

  • for hopefully not evil.

  • And even some of the things that are not optimal about it,

  • they're all these really interesting edge cases

  • around free speech or how do you control things?

  • Or if you have some machine learning algorithm

  • that's optimizing for views,

  • how do you control that?

  • So I definitely, understand where

  • some of their difficulties lie.

  • But it's a real thing.

  • When we talk to university,

  • people running universities and high schools right now,

  • the amount of anxiety and depression from kids,

  • to your point, comparing themselves to others

  • or getting bullied or bullying others is,

  • it seems a little bit out of control.

  • Well, I don't want to end on that note.

  • Well, Jim, why don't you tell what are your hopes?

  • What are your hopes for Common Sense Media?

  • What are your hopes for what might happen

  • in the coming months ahead or coming years ahead?

  • Right before we got on,

  • we were talking a little bit about

  • whether we could get to a world of universal

  • at home internet access.

  • What are lets end on a high note if you're still there.

  • Maybe Jim has disappeared.

  • So anyway, well I'll thank Jim for joining.

  • I thought that was really valuable

  • and we were able to get a 90% of what we were hoping to get

  • to get from get from Jim.

  • They do really great work at Common Sense.

  • And I encourage any of y'all with more questions.

  • We have a little bit more time.

  • I'm always happy to answer these questions.

  • I think there are,

  • there's actually a lot of questions feed.

  • Someone asked this is Nickeel Govendor asks

  • for both myself and Jim, how has social media

  • had a positive and negative effect on your life?

  • I would say social media for me personally

  • has for the most part been a positive effect on my life.

  • Obviously the early days of Khan Academy,

  • people think Khan Academy started with videos.

  • We actually started with this little software platform

  • that I was running for my cousins

  • and I made videos to supplement that software.

  • But obviously having, if you consider YouTube

  • to be a social media platform,

  • having a place where I could publish

  • and people discover allowed people to discover

  • Khan Academy allowed some of the first funders

  • to realize that this was an effort worth doing.

  • So I think, Khan Academy has been from that

  • we obviously still levered social media a lot.

  • We're doing it right now.

  • But I would also say that I'm fortunate

  • and I do consider myself fortunate that,

  • I didn't in the same way grow up with social media.

  • I could imagine the things that Jim is talking about

  • when you're 12, 13 years old, 14 year old,

  • or you're a 10 year old with a fake account,

  • pretending you're 13 years old.

  • That it can put a lot of pressure on you

  • to try to be something you're not,

  • or when your frontal lobe isn't fully developed,

  • you might be putting things out there into the world,

  • that later you might be not so proud of.

  • And it's good.

  • It's good that for a lot of us we were lucky enough

  • that it wasn't documented on social media.

  • And I think that can also lead to some stresses.

  • Generally in my own personal life,

  • I've gotten a lot of people saying, hey, Sal,

  • you have to get on Twitter more.

  • You gotta post on Instagram more.

  • And I think like the 17 or 18 year old Sal

  • or the 20 year old Sal actually would've loved doing that,

  • where it said, look at this really deep thing I have to say.

  • But I think these days I feel a little bit

  • maybe overexposed and I'm like,

  • well people really don't need that little weird thing

  • that I'm thinking about right now.

  • But overall I think social media

  • can be a very positive thing,

  • but you just have to be careful.

  • Jim people were asking

  • how is social media affected you personally? (mumbling)

  • Well, what about yourself?

  • Has social media been a positive

  • or negative or and how for you Jim?

  • - It's interesting, I think what you just said

  • is so intelligent.

  • I think it's been overall a positive.

  • It's interesting cause as a parent,

  • I've there've been a lot of times

  • when I was concerned about particularly my kids

  • when they were younger about some of them that are bullying,

  • but also that comparison.

  • I mentioned the body image issue.

  • Me, I'm not a big user of social media myself.

  • It's all about how you use it.

  • It's like life.

  • If you use it wisely and in balance and moderation,

  • use it for the good thing.

  • Social media can be incredible.

  • If you use it for negative things,

  • to be hurtful to other people

  • or to worry about I took to play out your identity.

  • It can be challenging.

  • It's an ongoing effort for me as a parent.

  • But I think we have a huge role

  • and you have a huge role

  • in educating our own kids about it first and foremost.

  • Setting a good role.

  • I would say that the parents

  • are the number one thing you do

  • is try to be a good role model right.

  • You have to model that for your goods.

  • If you're bullying other people online

  • or on a social media platform

  • or texting nasty things to people,

  • even as an adult cause adults do that, that's not good.

  • But this is the world we live in.

  • I'm glad I didn't grow up with him.

  • Do those sound like that?

  • That was a really good,

  • I'm glad I grew up in an era where you just didn't have it.

  • But now I think it's all about using it

  • and using common sense.

  • - Yup, no that's a good way to end.

  • And I will add I've had moment,

  • a lot of what has driven in my life

  • is my attempts to help my cousins.

  • There's been a couple of moments

  • over the last few years

  • where I literally would call up a cousin

  • and I was like, do you realize that I and the whole world

  • can see that picture that someone took of you

  • in that situation, take it down.

  • Future employers will see it.

  • This is not going to be good for you.

  • And so I think a lot of folks don't realize

  • that someone takes out their phone

  • and takes a picture of you and something,

  • doing something silly

  • and it's out there

  • and it's actually really hard to get it out.

  • And your employers will see it.

  • Your future in-laws will see it.

  • You have to be, very careful.

  • And I think a lot of young people don't realize

  • that it's not just the here and now.

  • There's long term implications.

  • So yeah be very careful of all of these things.

  • So Jim, no better person than yourself

  • to talk about social media and media generally.

  • Thanks for joining and

  • thanks for your partnership on all

  • of what we're trying to do to support families.

  • - No, honestly my honor to be here,

  • I am such a huge fan of Khan Academy

  • and of yours personally and I,

  • but I would say the same thing.

  • Good luck as a dad, just like good luck to me as a dad

  • during these crazy times.

  • But we are huge fans

  • and I'm gonna end by saying what you,

  • what I said at the beginning,

  • you guys should all support Khan Academy.

  • It is like this incredible institution,

  • not-for-profit started by

  • one of the best people I've ever known.

  • So bless you, thank you

  • it was an honor to be here.

  • I will look forward to working with you

  • for many years to come.

  • - Great thanks Jim.

  • And stay safe.

  • Take care of the family.

  • Alright, well thanks everyone for joining.

  • It was a fun conversation

  • and please continue to join us for,

  • I'll see you on Monday with our next daily live stream.

  • (sniffing)

- Hi everyone, Sal Khan here.

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