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  • >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY, WE'RE BACK WITH SENATOR BERNIE

  • SANDERS IN HIS FIRST INTERVIEW FOLLOWING SUSPENDING HIS

  • CAMPAIGN THIS AFTERNOON.

  • SENATOR, LET ME ASK YOU THIS, DO YOU THINK THE CORONAVIRUS

  • PANDEMIC MIGHT BE MOVING A LOT MORE PEOPLE TOWARD YOUR PLATFORM

  • WHEN IT COMES TO UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE BECAUSE IT CLEARLY

  • SHOWS WE NEED A NATIONAL RESPONSE TO HEALTH EMERGENCIES.

  • WE'RE REAPING A FOUL HARVEST OF THE POLITICAL COMPLACENCY OF THE

  • LAST 40 OR 50 YEARS?

  • >> LOOK, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD OVER AND OVER AGAIN HOW EFFECTIVE AND

  • HOW WONDERFUL THE EMPLOYER-BASED HEALTH INSURANCE PROGRAM IS.

  • WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT?

  • I THINK MANY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS HAVE BEGUN

  • TO DOUBT THAT BECAUSE WHEN THEY LOSE THEIR JOBS, NOT ONLY ARE

  • THEY LOSING THEIR INCOME.

  • THEY ARE LOSING THEIR HEALTH CARE.

  • SO THE REAL DEBATE IS, "A", SHOULD WE DO WHAT EVERY OTHER

  • MAJOR COUNTRY ON EARTH DOES-- GUARANTEE HEALTH CARE TO ALL

  • PEOPLE?

  • AND "B", WHETHER HEALTH CARE SHOULD SIMPLY BE AN EMPLOYER

  • BENEFIT?

  • YOU HAVE A GOOD EMPLOYER.

  • YOU HAVE GOOD HEALTH INSURANCE.

  • YOUR EMPLOYER IS NOT PROVIDING GOOD HEALTH INSURANCE, YOU'RE

  • SCREWED.

  • SHOULD THAT BE THE PROCESS OR SHOULD WE SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT?

  • YOU ARE A HUMAN BEING?

  • AND BECAUSE YOU'RE A HUMAN BEING, YOU ARE ENTITLED TO

  • HEALTH CARE, YOU'RE ENTITLED TO AFFORDABLE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.

  • YOU ARE ENTITLED TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY WITH A STRONG PUBLIC

  • HEALTH SYSTEM, SO GORE FORBID, THE NEXT PANDEMIC, DOCTORS WILL

  • NOT HAVE TO BE SEARCHING AROUND LOOKING FOR MASKS SO THEY DON'T

  • HAVE TO PUT HIR LIVES ON THE LINE.

  • YOU HAVE STRONG PRIMARY CARE AROUND THE COUNTRY.

  • YOU GO TO A DOCTOR WHEN YOU NEED.

  • I THINK WHAT THIS PANDEMIC HAS DONE, CERTAINLY IN TERMS OF

  • HEALTH CARE, IS MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT HEALTH CARE IS

  • NOT A PRIVILEGE.

  • IT'S NOT AN EMPLOYEE BENEFIT.

  • IT IS A HUMAN RIGHT.

  • AND, BY THE WAY, WHEN WE MOVE, IN MY VIEW, TO MEDICARE FOR ALL,

  • WE'RE GOING TO SAVE SUBSTANTIAL SUMS OF MONEY FOR THE AVERAGE

  • PERSON BECAUSE WE'RE NOT WORKING TO PROVIDE HUGE PROFITS FOR THE

  • DRUG COMPANIES AND INSURANCE COMPANIES.

  • >> Stephen: I WOULD GO YOU ONE FURTHER AND SAY THAT HEALTH CARE

  • IS NOT JUST A HUMAN RIGHT, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD FOR THE

  • GENERAL WELFARE, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE OF MEANS WHO DO HAVE

  • HEALTH INSURANCE AND CAN STAY IN RIGHT NOW AND NOT TAKE TOO MUCH

  • OF A FINANCIAL HIT, ARE THE ONES WHO CAN DO THE RIGHT THING THAT

  • WE ALL KNOW TO DO, WHICH IS TO STAY HOME.

  • BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE HEALTH CARE, IF YOU CAN'T STAY HOME,

  • YOU WILL SPREAD THE DISEASE.

  • THIS IS ABOUT THE ENTIRE SOCIETY BEING BENEFITED BY EVERY SINGLE

  • PERSON IN IT HAVING WHAT THEY NEED.

  • >> ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

  • AND, AGAIN, IT'S NOT ONLY THAT WE ARE-- I SHOULD SAY THAT NOT

  • ONLY ARE YOU RIGHT ON THAT POINT.

  • WE'RE THE ONLY MAJOR COUNTRY ON EARTH, EMBARRASSINGLY, AND WE

  • HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT, THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE PAID FAMILY AND

  • MEDICAL LEAVE.

  • SO YOUR POINT IS-- AND LET'S UNDERLINE THIS A DOZEN TIMES--

  • WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ESSENTIAL PEOPLE NOW, WE'RE NOT TALKING

  • ABOUT HEDGE FUND OPERATORS.

  • WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, NECESSARILY, THE C.E.O.s OF

  • LARGE CORPORATIONS.

  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOCTORS, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NURSES, AND

  • WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GROCERY STORE WORKERS AND PEOPLE WHO

  • WORK IN PHARMACIES AND PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING BUSES --

  • >> Stephen: AND GARBAGE MEN.

  • >> AND GARBAGE MEN, ABSOLUTELY.

  • PEOPLE WHO ARE KEEPING OUR SOCIETY GOING AND PUTTING THEIR

  • LIVES ON THE LINE AS A RESULT OF THAT.

  • AND YOUR POINT, OF COURSE, IS WELL TAKEN.

  • IF PEOPLE WHO ARE SICK, WHO, GOD FORBID, HAVE THE VIRUS, AND

  • THEY'RE GOING OUT IN THE WORLD, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SPREADING

  • IT, AND THEY MAY BE SPREADING IT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY RICH AS

  • WELL.

  • SO I THINK IN HEALTH CARE, THERE IS AN UNDERSTANDING THAT IF YOU

  • GET SICK, I GET SICK.

  • IF YOU'VE GOT THE VIRUS, I GET THE VIRUS IF YOU'RE IN CONTACT

  • WITH ME.

  • AND MAYBE WE SHOULD CREATE A NATION WHERE WE'RE NEVER PUT IN

  • THAT POSITION.

  • AND, BY THE WAY, A NATION WHERE WE PUT A LOT MORE EMPHASIS ON

  • KEEPING PEOPLE HEALTHY, NOT JUST TREATING PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE

  • SICK.

  • >> Stephen: WELL, I THINK THAT IF ANY GOOD CAN COME OUT OF THIS

  • TERRIBLE SITUATION, IT SHOULD BE AN AWARENESS BY AVERAGE

  • AMERICANS THAT THEY ARE ESSENTIAL, AND THAT THE ELITES

  • AND RICHEST AMONG US, DO NOT ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO OUT AND DO

  • THEIR JOBS RIGHT NOW.

  • >> I THINK THAT'S A VERY PROFOUND AND IMPORTANT POINT.

  • >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE ONE MORE BREAK.

  • BUT STICK AROUND.

  • WHEN WE COME BACK, I'LL TALK TO SENATOR SANDERS ABOUT HOW WE CAN

  • ENSURE A SMOOTH ELECTION COME THIS NOVEMBER.

>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY, WE'RE BACK WITH SENATOR BERNIE

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