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  • ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: MY GUEST TONIGHT

  • HAS SPENT DECADES WORKING TOWARDS POLITICAL REVOLUTION,

  • AND JUST TODAY, SUSPENDED HIS PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN.

  • PLEASE WELCOME SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS.

  • SENATOR, IT'S A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU HERE.

  • >> THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME, STEPHEN.

  • >> Stephen: OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS ONE QUESTION I HAVE TO ASK

  • YOU.

  • WHY IS TONIGHT DIFFERENT FROM ALL OTHER NIGHTS?

  • ( LAUGHTER ) WELL, OBVIOUSLY, FOR US, IT'S

  • THE END OF OUR EFFORT TO BECOME PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

  • AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE MANY

  • HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF GRASSROOTS ACTIVISTS, PEOPLE WHO

  • HAVE BEEN KNOCKING ON DOORS, PEOPLE WHO CONTRIBUTED $18 A

  • CONTRIBUTION FOR MAKING THE CAMPAIGN POSSIBLE.

  • IT HAS BEEN AN ABSOLUTE JOY AND A PRIVILEGE TO REPRESENT THOSE

  • FOLK DISPLZ SENATOR, WHY IS NOW THE RIGHT TIME, IN YOUR OPINION,

  • TO END YOUR CAMPAIGN?

  • YOU SAY YOU'RE STILL INTERESTED IN GETTING DELEGATES AND MASSING

  • MORE DELEGATES AND TAKING THEM TO THE CONVENTION.

  • WHY STOP THE CAMPAIGN NOW?

  • >> WELL, I THINK FAIR COUPLE OF REASONS.

  • I THINK THE MATHEMATICS IS PRETTY CLEAR THEY CAN'T WIN.

  • AND WHILE YOU CAN MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT YOU SHOULD RUN A

  • CAMPAIGN, FIGHT FOR YOUR IDEAS, BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER, EVEN IF

  • YOU CAN'T WIN, I THINK THE PANDEMIC THAT WE ARE

  • EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW MAKES EVEN THAT VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

  • WE DON'T HOLD RALLIES.

  • PEOPLE CAN'T KNOCK ON DOORS.

  • AND I THINK BY ENDING THE CAMPAIGN NOW, BY FOCUSING ON MY

  • JOB AS A UNITED STATES SENATE TO HELP DEAL WITH THIS PANDEMIC,

  • DEAL WITH THE ECONOMIC COLLAPSE THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING, I THINK

  • IT'S A BETTER USE OF MY TIME.

  • AND I THINK THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE TO ME RIGHT NOW.

  • >> Stephen: IN 2015, WHEN YOU LAUNCHED YOUR FIRST CAMPAIGN FOR

  • PRESIDENT, YOU SAID THAT, "TODAY WE BEGIN A POLITICAL

  • REVOLUTION."

  • YOU MAY NOT REACH THE PROMISED LAND, BUT YOU'VE BEEN TO THE

  • MOUNTAINTOP.

  • YOU'VE SEEN THAT YOU'VE CHANGED THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE,

  • ESPECIALLY FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

  • WHAT DO YOU THINK THE GREATEST INFLUENCE OF YOUR CAMPAIGN WILL

  • BE ULTIMATELY?

  • >> WELL, I THINK WHAT WE HAVE MANAGED TO DO, STEPHEN-- AND NOT

  • ME ALONE.

  • I MEAN, WE'VE DONE IT WITH FANTASTIC SURROGATES, WITH GREAT

  • PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY-- WE HAVE ASKED THE THE AMERICAN PEOP

  • AICISMY QUESTION AND THAT IS WHY?

  • WHY DO WE HAVE SO MUCH INCOME AND WEALTH INEQUALITY?

  • JUDGE DO WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE OWNING MORE WEALTH THAN THE

  • BOTTOM HALF OF AMERICA AND A HALF A MILLION PEOPLE SLEEPING

  • OUT ON THE STREETS TONIGHT?

  • WHY ARE WE THE ONLY MAJOR COUNTRY ON EARTH NOT TO

  • GUARANTEE HEALTH CARE TO ALL PEOPLE AS A HUMAN RIGHT?

  • I'M TALKING TO YOU 50 MILES AWAY FROM THE CANADIAN BORDER.

  • FOR DECADES, THEY HAVE MANAGED TO PROVIDE QUALITY CARE TO ALL

  • OF THEIR PEOPLE AT 50% OF THE COST WE SPEND.

  • WHY ARE SO MANY OF OUR KIDS LEAVING COLLEGE DEEPLY IN DEBT

  • AND SO MANY OTHERS NOT EVEN ABLE TO AFFORD TO GO TO COLLEGE?

  • WHY AREN'T WE MORE AGGRESSIVE IN DEALING WITH CLIMATE CHANGE?

  • WHY DO WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN JAIL THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY?

  • SO I THINK RAISING THOSE QUESTIONS AND SAYING TO PEOPLE

  • THAT YOU KNOW WHAT?

  • THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE CASE.

  • THAT IF WE ARE PREPARED TO COME TOGETHER AND HAVE THE COURAGE TO

  • TAKE ON THE GREED OF A CORPORATE ELITE, MANY OF WHOM COULD CARE

  • LESS ABOUT ORDINARY PEOPLE, ALL THEY NEED IS MORE THEY WANT IS

  • MORE AND MORE MONEY.

  • DO WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE FAMILIES IN AMERICA WORTH MORE

  • THAN $100 BILLION, WHEN HALF OF OUR PEOPLE ARE LIVING PAYCHECK

  • TO PAYCHECK?

  • WHEN WE'RE LOOKING TODAY AT DOCTORS AND NURSES WHO CAN'T

  • ACQUIRE THE MASKS THEY NEED, ARE PUTTING THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE,

  • AND YET, WE ARE THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY IN THE HISTORY OF THE

  • WORLD.

  • HOW DOES ALL OF THAT HAPPEN?

  • SO I THINK MAYBE OUR MAJOR CONTRIBUTION IS TO ASK THE

  • SIMPLE QUESTION WHY?

  • WHY ARE WE WHERE WE ARE TODAY?

  • AND WHERE DO WE HAVE TO GO?

  • DO WE HAVE TO BE LIVING IN A SOCIETY WHERE THERE IS SO MUCH

  • GREED ON TOP?

  • CAN'T WE ALL COME TOGETHER AND CREATE A DECENT LIVE FOR ALL OF

  • US?

  • >> Stephen: WELL, YOUR DROPPING OUT OF THE RACE LEAVES

  • JOE BIDEN THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC

  • PARTY.

  • HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO THE VICE PRESIDENT SINCE YOU MADE THIS

  • DECISION?

  • >> YES, I HAVE, ACTUALLY, AND I'VE SPOKEN TO HIM, YOU KNOW, IN

  • THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

  • YOU KNOW, IT'S NO GRET SECRET THAT, YOU KNOW, JOE BIDEN'S

  • POLITICS ARE DIFFERENT FROM MINE.

  • BUT I HAVE KNOWN JOE SINCE I CAME TO THE SENATE IN 2006,

  • WORKED WITH HIM WHEN HE WAS VICE PRESIDENT IN THE OBAMA

  • ADMINISTRATION.

  • AND WHAT I WOULD SAY TO PEOPLE IS THAT JOE IS A VERY DECENT

  • HUMAN BEING.

  • I KNOW HIS WIFE, JILL, AS WELL, AS A WONDERFUL PERSON.

  • AND THAT I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH JOE TO MOVE HIM IN A

  • MORE PROGRESSIVE DIRECTION.

  • AND I THINK JOE IS A GOOD POLITICIAN.

  • AND HE UNDERSTANDS THAT IN ORDER TO DEFEAT THE PRESIDENT, THAT IN

  • ORDER TO DEFEAT TRUMP, HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BRING NEW

  • PEOPLE INTO HIS POLITICAL WORLD, AND THAT HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO

  • LISTEN TO THEIR NEEDS-- YOUNG PEOPLE, WORKING PEOPLE-- AND

  • MAYBE START MOVING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION TO SOME

  • DEGREE THAN HE HAS IN THE PAST.

  • >> Stephen: NOW, I LISTENED TO YOUR ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY ONLINE.

  • WAS-- I KNOW THAT YOU-- YOU SAID THE SAME THING ABOUT VICE

  • PRESIDENT BIDEN, ESSENTIALLY, TODAY.

  • IS THAT AN ENDORSEMENT?

  • IS THAT A FULL-THROATED ENDORSEMENT OF JOE BIDEN?

  • >> WELL, THAT-- WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING TO JOE, AND WE ARE.

  • WE'RE TALKING TO HIS TEAM OF ADVISERS.

  • BUT WHAT I HAVE SAID-- I CAN TELL YOU THIS, STEPHEN.

  • WHAT I SAID FROM THE FIRST DAY THAT I ANNOUNCED MY INTENTION TO

  • RUN FOR PRESIDENT, I WILL DO EVERYTHING THAT I CAN TO MAKE

  • SURE THAT DONALD TRUMP IS NOT RE-ELECTED.

  • BECAUSE I BELIEVE TRUMP HAS BEEN THE MOST DANGEROUS PRESIDENT IN

  • THE MODERN HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY, AND WE'RE SEEING HIS

  • NARCISSISM, HIS IGNORANCE PLAYING OUT IN TERMS OF THE

  • PANDEMIC WE'RE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW.

  • SO I WILL DO EVERYTHING I CAN.

  • BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO JOE AND WE'RE

  • TALKING TO HIS TEAM ABOUT HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.

  • >> Stephen: SO YOU'LL HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS, AND THEN

  • DECIDE JUST HOW FULL YOUR THROAT WILL BE WHEN YOU ENDORSE HIM?

  • ( LAUGHTER ).

  • >> RIGHT.

  • THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IS HOW WE CAN BEST GO

  • FORWARD TOGETHER.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT COULD HE ADOPT?

  • WHAT IS THE THING THAT JOE BIDEN COULD SAY THAT YOU THINK WOULD

  • BEST INVITE YOUR FOLLOWERS INTO HIS CAMP?

  • BECAUSE THERE ARE STILL HARD FEELINGS FROM SOME OF HILLARY'S

  • PEOPLE, THE FEELING THAT YOUR ENDORSEMENT WAS NOT FULL

  • THROATED ENOUGH IN 2016.

  • WHAT COULD JOE DO-- >> I WOULD JUST SAY THAT IN

  • TERMS OF 2016, I WORKED AS HARD AS I COULD TO SEE THAT TRUMP WAS

  • NOT ELECTED.

  • >> Stephen: OKAY.

  • >> BUT, YOU KNOW-- >> Stephen: WHAT COULD BIDEN

  • SAY TO INVITE YOUR FOLLOWERS?

  • >> LOOK, IT'S NO SECRET, I MEAN, THE FACTS ARE PRETTY CLEAR, THAT

  • DURING THIS CAMPAIGN WE DID VERY, VERY WELL WITH YOUNGER

  • PEOPLE.

  • AND BY THAT I MEAN NOT JUST PEOPLE 20 YEARS OF AGE, PEOPLE

  • 50 YEARS OF AGE OR YOUNGER.

  • AND JOE DID VERY, VERY WELL WITH OLDER PEOPLE.

  • AND I THINK WHAT JOE HAS TO DO-- AND I THINK HE WILL DO-- IS LOOK

  • AT WHAT ARE THOSE ISSUES THAT YOUNG PEOPLE AND WORKING CLASS

  • PEOPLE WHO SUPPORTED ME, WHAT ARE THEY CONCERNED ABOUT?

  • AND TO THE DEGREE THAT HE'S PREPARED-- AND I THINK HE IS, IN

  • MANY RESPECTS-- TO RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE TO A LIVING WAGE OF

  • AT LEAST 15 BUCKS AN HOUR.

  • TO BE BOLD ON THE ISSUE OF CLIMATE CHANGE, WHICH IS A HUGE

  • ISSUE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.

  • TO-- AND I JUST READ A STATEMENT THAT HE MADE TODAY, AND I THINK

  • HE IS MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION-- TO MAKE PUBLIC COLLEGES AND

  • UNIVERSITIES TUITION-FREE.

  • I THINK HE IS PREPARED TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION, WHICH WOULD

  • BE A BIG DEAL FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY, TO BE

  • VERY BOLD.

  • AND I THINK HE'S PREPARED TO DO THAT.

  • ON IMMIGRATION REFORM.

  • RIGHT NOW, TODAY IN AMERICA, BECAUSE OF TRUMP, YOU'VE GOT

  • MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF WONDERFUL PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN

  • IN THIS COUNTRY FOR DECADES WHO ARE WORKING HARD.

  • THEY'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW, TODAY, IN DANGEROUS JOBS.

  • BUT THEY ARE SCARED TO DEATH THAT THEY MAY BE DEPORTED

  • BECAUSE OF TRUMP.

  • I THINK JOE BIDEN UNDERSTANDS HOW WRONG THAT IS, AND IS

  • PREPARED TO MAKE CHANGES.

  • ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE, AN ISSUE THAT YOUNG PEOPLE AND PEOPLE OF

  • COLOR FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT.

  • I THINK JOE UNDERSTANDSES THAT IT IS WRONG THAT WE HAVE MORE

  • PEOPLE IN JAIL THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY.

  • SO MANY LIVES HAVE BEEN WASTED.

  • AND WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT MASS INCARCERATION.

  • SO I THINK IF HE IS PREPARED-- HE'S NOT GOING TO COME TO WHERE

  • I AM.

  • HIS VIEWS ARE DIFFERENT.

  • HE CAMPAIGNED DIFFERENTLY.

  • BUT IF HE CAN INDICATE, I THINK, TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, TO OUR

  • SUPPORTERS, THAT HE IS LISTENING, THAT HE IS PREPARED

  • TO MOVE FORWARD, THAT HE IS PREPARED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT

  • AS PRESIDENT, HE WILL TAKE ON VERY, VERY POWERFUL SPECIAL

  • INTERESTS, YOU KNOW, ON WALL STREET, IN THE INSURANCE

  • INDUSTRY, IN THE PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY.

  • I WILL TELL YOU, STEPHEN, HAVING BEEN ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY, THAT

  • THE PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY IS PROPERLY DETESTED BY THE

  • AMERICAN PEOPLE BECAUSE THE AVERAGE AMERICAN KNOWS THEY'RE

  • GETTING RICH WHILE SO MANY OF OUR PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD THE

  • MEDICINE THEY NEED.

  • I THINK JOE-- HE'S NOT GOING TO ADOPT MY PLATFORM I'VE GOT THAT.

  • BUT IF HE CAN MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION I THINK PEOPLE WILL

  • SAY, "YOU KNOW WHAT, I THINK THIS IS A GUY WE WILL SUPPORT

  • AND SHOULD SUPPORT."

  • >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK, BUT WHEN

  • WE COME BACK, I WILL ASK THE SENATOR ABOUT THE LEGACY OF HIS

  • CAMPAIGN AND HOW THE PROGRESSIVE AGENDA MOVES ON FROM HERE.

♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: MY GUEST TONIGHT

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